Daray

@SimonJaeger: well said, I guess it's less about obsessing and more about trying to choose between a 445 and a 450 and a 475 reach size that makes you choose, It's a great reason I guess to go throw a leg over each and choose one

Mind blown!

This! I wanted a patrol, but the BB height is so low and the HTA is so slack that it always kept me from buying it. This has a reasonable BB height and a more moderate HTA.

Love seeing this review! I just built up an Edit MX Frame. Check it out here: https://www.pinkbike.com/photo/26981611/ And will be taking it for it's first outing this week! I'm even more stoked after this review. I will say the frame quality is excellent and putting this thing together was a pleasure. I built it up with a new 160 Zeb and some We are one wheels I've had on a few bikes with Onyx hubs, an SLX drivetrain and brakes with HS2 rotors and TRP performance pads. I also, sanded the paint off an old alloy bar and I'm liking the look of the raw handlebar. I threw a sticker of my son (9 years old) messing around on the linkage, because I think it captures my desired personality of the bike, meant for having fun and not to take anything too seriously. This is a cool bike built buy a cool group of guys who just want to have fun on bikes. The Slacker looks pretty awesome too

Agreed. 455-465 is my happy place at 5’9”. I’ve got my ebike at 475 with a really tall stack and long chain stays and it feels fine, but when I hop back in my trail bike with a 455 reach it just feels better, and much more maneuverable. Part of that could be the weight of the bike as well. I’d almost be tempted in this status to go s2 in the high setting at 451mm vs the s3 at 475. Honestly I wish I could demo them both on the trail. One other thing. I wish they sold a park version with a 12 speed cassette. I’d love to pedal that thing up long fire roads but still have the boxer on the front.