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@KnobbyNC: I don’t think our country is economically independent but we are sovereign. No country is economically independent. Not even North Korea. I’m saying that the policy put into place by the US is counterproductive to the goal you are claiming it is intended to accomplish. The US economy is hurting and all your previous trade partners and relationships have been fractured. That is not strengthening any economy or reducing Chinese dependence. Also why would China stop selling to all the other countries that support its entire economy? That would be shooting itself in the foot like the US is doing now. I hoe you are successful but everyone else other than the Republican party and it’s supporters see how this is going to work. Even then the Republican has lost confidence.

@KnobbyNC: It is not fair to joke if Canada is a sovereign nation. If you want to be less reliant on Asia, great. Alienating yourself from the global economy and threatening annexation of allies through economic force is not that though. That is why Canadians are upset with the US. If you want to stop supporting Asia don’t hurt your allies, get mad at Walmart and Amazon for importing 90% of their goods from there. We may need your trade more than you need ours but we still both need each other’s trade. I agree a 10% tariff on Maple Syrup would not cause a global recession. The thing is, that’s not what these tariffs are. They are a 10%+ tariff on everything. 145% tariff on China. On top of that they create uncertainty in the market and with consumers. Trumps “Liberation Day” tariffs were supposed to be long term and were rescinded in a matter of days. No company is going to invest in serious US manufacturing if they can’t estimate costs, or be certain the thing that is supposed to make them economically viable will last longer than it takes to Binge watch a TV series. The tariffs and drops in the market also hurt the companies that are supposed to be creating these manufacturing jobs by reducing the capital they have to invest in the first place. Also the market is not a predictor of a recession even though it has undergone correction and has seen the largest 2 day drop in history. The forecasted GDP is currently predicting a recession for the US and the world because of these policies. VAT and Corporate taxes are not tariffs. Increasing corporate tax might actually help you guys and get you better healthcare. You have the right to be upset over job losses in the US and to be scared of China’s economic power. These policies don’t solve either of those and scapegoating globalization doesn’t either. Be mad with all the governments and businesses that have failed the population they serve by letting industries leave or fail without stepping in to aid those effected through innovation and investment in the population. Your example of one country stopping functioning is not accurate either. It’s the country with the world’s largest economy that stopped functioning.

@KnobbyNC: Yes he did but like I previously stated, hr has renounced all other citizenships, and before that, worked a similar job in Canada. On top of that, he worked for the Bank of England which is arguably our oldest ally that shares the same Monarch. Not really a large conflict of interest. That statement feels contradictory as you are saying Canada should exist while also asking why should it exist. If you think it should exist then you should know why it should exist. We are a country that has different values and beliefs from the United States. The overwhelming majority of Canadians do not want to be part of the US because of these differences and that should be enough alone to justify our existence. We have a totally different form of government. We have a completely different relationship with the indigenous people here. We have different healthcare. Overall we rate higher than the US when it comes to healthcare, we are the most well educated country in the world, we rate higher for happiness, we have a higher HDI, more media freedom. We want to be sovereign. Do we need more decoupling or just not some kleptocratic leader manipulating markets to make the 11 billionaires in his cabinet more money? Until the tariffs, the world was not headed to a global recession, neither were Canada or the US. Is it globalization that demands international cooperation that is the issue? Or is it the inverse that is causing the issue?

@KnobbyNC: Canada's PM is not a "European Bureaucrat". He is Canadian born and raised, worked for the Bank of Canada before working for the Bank of England. Since becoming PM he has given up his citizenship to all countries other than Canada. Canada is dependent on US exports because we live in a globalized society. We can't grow fruit in -20, you don't have our energy extraction infrastructure. We trade based off of what you have and we have. Every country in the world is dependent on international trade, even North Korea. We don't have a large military because historically, the US has been a strong ally for western nations. Plus, most countries get along with us unlike the US right now who seems to be at odds with every country. Canada exists as a sovereign country because we gained it from the British in the times of the fur trade. Back then, we won a war with the US and then made land deals to create Canada. I'm not sure why you don't think we should exist as a country so I can't really answer your question. Your basically asking, "Why should we have countries and not all be one country over the globe?" We care what the US does with their money in Ukraine because holding peoples lives and freedoms hostage for 500$ Billion dollars to a dictator with a poor human rights record seems wrong to everyone else except Russia's allies which seems to include the US now. We also care since when you guys tank your economy through silly policies like these tariffs, it not only tanks your economy and sets it up for recession, but it tanks the global economy and sets it up for recession hurting billions of people around the world.

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