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@dsut4392: Regarding your concerns to the Flexpivot please have a look at this video. https://videos.mtb-news.de/52987/ihr_fragt_wir_antworten_last_tarvo It't been made for answearing some questions in the mostly german mtb-news.com forum but I think even without english subtitle it may be interesting to see how little flex there is. As I said above, its hard to argue that there is any influence on the suspension dynamics.

@pakleni: @srstudent: There is a typo in this table, we did put the correct values on our website(LAST-Bikes.com) but we cannot change them in this article. Correct Toptube length are : 581 for Medium, 604 for Large , 633 for XL and 666mm for XXL

@benmoosmann: its just copy paste from my comment above but i hope it can sort out your worries :) Actiually I can totally understand your concerns, because it's new, because it's something that has not been done before on a gravity orientated bike. But does that mean it's bad? If you look at the numbers of leverage ratio, anti squat and even anti rise we could hardly have created a kinematic that was more suitable for a full on enduro racing machine. Even if we had added 28 more bearings and a slider (which sure would have looked super awesome and therefore would have made it a way more reasonable discussion with your wife Big Grin or your husband to be fair to all the fast girls out there❤️) So the only remaining worries could be that the flex is so strong that it negatively affects the spring curve of your rear suspension and that the flex is so strong that seatstay may break. But neighter is the case. You may not belive me but actiually we engineered the kinematics with a flex needed so little that once you have removed the shock you can push the swingarm through its travel by just slightly touching it with your little finger. I'm pretty sure some of the magazines will demonstrate that once they have the bike :) Realy hard to argue that there is any drawback on suspension performance. And because the fiber layup is made in a way that supports this flexible movement only in the desired direction the swingarm remains stiff and 100% play free in the sideways direction. You will also never nerd to service that Pivot. The bike was designed to be light not because we wanted to build the lightest enduro bike the wold has seen, but because we realized we could do it without any drawbacks.

@justanotherusername: So it is somehow ok for Treck to ask a 1000$ for a custom paintjob because they do not charge you extra for a standard paintjob on a massproduction carbon frame from Asia that they produce for a bargin but also ask 3699$ for? That does not soud quite fair. I totaly understand that 400$ for a paintjob sounds a lot! But 70ID is doing a great Job in (hand)spraying those frames. If there was a painter nearby that could do it in the same quality and relability as Lars from 70ID is doing it we probaply would have chosen him. Whenever we chose a suplier we ask ourselves if we were willing to work at that place and only if all of us can agree on that we will chose that suplier! Those who have been to our showroom or know us from the trails may know that we are good guys and that engineering and riding bikes is our passion. And that passion is something that we always liked to share at a price that we (knowing about all the nice little details and the quality of the product) think is fair to ask. Honestly, if any of us was after the big money we would probaply be in another industry :D

@KxPop: Yes, the Toptube values given in the table are not correct. We did put in the correct values on our website but we sadly can not change them in the pinkbike article. Our Website is WWW.LAST-Bikes.com

@WasatchEnduro: Sure a pivot without bearings is a bad thing if you're super keen on swapping out worn out bearings. I always enjoined that lots! :D Actiually I can totally understand your concerns, because it's new, because it's something that has not been done before on a gravity orientated bike. But does that mean it's bad? If you look at the numbers of leverage ratio, anti squat and even anti rise we could hardly have created a kinematic that was more suitable for a full on enduro racing machine. Even if we had added 28 more bearings and a slider (which sure would have looked super awesome and therefore would have made it a way more reasonable discussion with your wife :D or your husband to be fair to all the fast girls out there❤️) So the only remaining worries could be that the flex is so strong that it negatively affects the spring curve of your rear suspension and that the flex is so strong that seatstay may break. But neighter is the case. You may not belive me but actiually we engineered the kinematics with a flex needed so little that once you have removed the shock you can push the swingarm through its travel by just slightly touching it with your little finger. I'm pretty sure some of the magazines will demonstrate that once they have the bike Smile Realy hard to argue that there is any drawback on suspension performance. And because the fiber layup is made in a way that supports this flexible movement only in the desired direction the swingarm remains stiff and 100% play free in the sideways direction. You will also never nerd to service that Pivot. The bike was designed to be light not because we wanted to build the lightest enduro bike the wold has seen, but because we realized we could do it without any drawbacks.

Sure a pivot without bearings is a bad thing if you're super keen on swapping out worn out bearings. I always enjoined that lots! ???? Actiually I can totally understand your concerns, because it's new, because it's something that has not been done before on a gravity orientated bike. But does that mean it's bad? If you look at the numbers of leverage ratio, anti squat and even anti rise we could hardly have created a kinematic that was more suitable for a full on enduro racing machine. Even if we had added 28 more bearings and a slider (which sure would have looked super awesome and therefore would have made it a way more reasonable discussion with your wife ???? or your husband to be fair to all the fast girls out there❤️) So the only remaining worries could be that the flex is so strong that it negatively affects the spring curve of your rear suspension and that the flex is so strong that seatstay may break. But neighter is the case. You may not belive me but actiually we engineered the kinematics with a flex needed so little that once you have removed the shock you can push the swingarm through its travel by just slightly touching it with your little finger. I'm pretty sure some of the magazines will demonstrate that once they have the bike :) Realy hard to argue that there is any drawback on suspension performance. And because the fiber layup is made in a way that supports this flexible movement only in the desired direction the swingarm remains stiff and 100% play free in the sideways direction. You will also never nerd to service that Pivot. The bike was designed to be light not because we wanted to build the lightest enduro bike the wold has seen, but because we realized we could do it without any drawbacks.

@mi-bike: Sure it is! Acutiually we do not save that weight by reducing stabilty. We save the weight by a supreme fibre qualtiy and absoulte production process controll here in Germany. +We did not desing some fancy design features that only produce weight without any function or strenght gain!

@justanotherusername: Sure we could do it for less in Bangladesh. Those frames are custom Paintet by 70ID in Hagen, Germany. If you want supreme quality custom paintjob made by hand in Germany thats quite a fair price :) Yeti builds great bikes, cant deny that! But if you consider value its good to know that Yeti Frames (and most other boutique brands frames) are made in Asia while this Frame is 100% Produced in Germany. Big plus for Yeit ist that you get 1kg extra material for free :D Realy like their bikes so no offense :)

Thanks for that commen! We just fixed the typo on our webiste Smile Correct Toptube length are : 581 for Medium, 604 for Large , 633 for XL and 666mm for XXL