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Feb 8, 2020 at 12:57
Feb 8, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
@jdang307: Those are challenging bikes. Send me a note at rob@motioninstruments.com. I need to know which bike and if it's an air or coil shock. Also, send a few pics of the shock and how moves through the frame.
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 7, 2020 at 11:21
Feb 7, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
@birdman2447: I don't think he was hating. But I think there is confusion on what we are really doing vs. what the perception is. Just because we measure the shock and fork, doesn't mean we are balancing a bike based on what the damper is doing. For each bike, we have a bike file that has the bike geometry and leverage curve. So we calculate vertical motion of the front and rear axle, then we compare speeds for compression and rebound. The measurement of a fork or shock motion is just a method to get there. On GM's bike, you'll see we measure the top tube rotating link, but we have a curve provided by SC specific to his bike parts. It just makes it easier for him to take his shock off, which he does like a million times.
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 7, 2020 at 9:58
Feb 7, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
Yes, built by nerds for curious nerds.
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 7, 2020 at 9:58
Feb 7, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
@Chuckolicious: Re: Rental, soon.
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 7, 2020 at 9:56
Feb 7, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
I hope you think we're more than "data acquisition". We got that working in the first 30 days. Data is just squiggly lines. What we did was quantify how the bike interacts with the earth by analyzing axle motion. We specifically didn't put in recommendations because everyone rides their bike differently. Some off the front, some more on the rear (Jeff Kendall-Weed). So you want a bike that supports you based on how you ride. By looking at the data, you'll see where you need the bike to support you more. Think of our system as giving you a readout of how your bike is interacting on your trails at your speeds. It would be a stretch to think we could give you settings. We say fix what's broken first, then dive into the minor adjustments. We had a pro enduro rider test with our system yesterday, and it was obvious what needed to be fixed first (correct preload and spacers). No knobs were turned and just getting this balanced made a huge difference for him. I wasn't there, he was making adjustments on his own
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 6, 2020 at 1:12
Feb 6, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
Yes, there is an embedded 6 axis gyro/accelerometer on every circuit board. We always intended to turn on the gyro on this part but it required a lot of memory. When we updated our processor, we now have the necessary footprint to run the software to get real time lean angles. In a future release, we'll put out an update for the firmware to light this up. Then we'll have a bunch analytics to show you how you ride your bike in corners, etc. It's more of a fun fact. How flat was that tabletop jump? Flat or 10 degrees... The gyro knows...
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 6, 2020 at 0:29
Feb 6, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
Hi Folks, Rob here from MI. Before this post rolls off the front page into the PB dustbin, I just wanted to say thanks for all of the comments. The response to this blog has been great. A tiny company like ours consisting of 3 donkeys in a garage doesn’t have a big budget to reach a large audience, so kudos to PinkBike for offering this blog format as a platform for companies like us. This gave us huge exposure and we are grateful. When we started this project, we literally built this for what we wanted as riders. We realize the pricing, etc is a bit of a turnoff for many, but we architected the system as cheaply as we could by leveraging the phone and some off the shelf position sensors (which btw are expensive AF). I live in Silicon Valley and I remember the day I saw the first Tesla Roadster rolling around. It was 130K (US) and it was their battery & electrical drivetrain stuffed into a Lotus. Expensive? Unobtainable? Yes, it wasn’t attainable for me then, and still isn’t to this day. The model 3 is in our range 10 years later. We hit many firsts during this product development. First was getting bluetooth to work as a mesh to handle this data rate. We started this project as a fork sensor only and when we met Greg Minnaar, he said that was crap. BTW, when you create something from nothing, lots of people will tell you it's crap. Listen, learn, and change course. That was a tough pill and put our development back 2 more years to get all of the other things working. Next, working with the bike and suspension OEMs has been amazing. Ibis and Yeti were our first customers and we were thrilled to get their business and work with them. When we flew to CO to meet Yeti, they even paid for my hotel room as a gesture for making the trip out. Our system was far from baked when they bought systems and we worked really hard to make a product for them. What surprised me, was that many of these companies don’t have huge budgets to purchase automotive data telemetry systems. These state of the art systems were 5-10x the cost of ours, and it required a full time engineer just to write software on those platforms to extract signal from the noise. So our product allows small companies, today, to get insights into their bike they never knew were there. I shared data with Adam Krefting at Cushcore early on and showed him with hard data the effects of Cushcore to the handling of a bike. 15% of the compression strokes for a long sustained downhill just disappeared. Since then, we’ve sold many systems to other OEMs and I think they are really appreciative of the system we created. The next milestone we hit was one I said would never happen in a million years. We talked to Specialized and showed them our system. My buddy Mike designs their helmets and got me a meeting with their suspension team and we had a great meeting. Got to meet Mike McAndrews, Bob Hannah's mechanic back in the day and inventor of a lot of suspension tech at specialized. At the time, we didn’t see any traction from that specific meeting, but we kept talking and working together. Now our app, MotionIQ, supports every Specialized curve. For all the trash talked about company A, B, & C, we’ve been super impressed with every company we’ve met along the way. Our technology is niche in the format you see it today, no doubt. For us, this is a start of something that can eventually lead to everyone. This may not be a system you personally purchase today and we get that. However, based on what I’ve seen to date, our system has already had an impact and you’ll be the beneficiary even if you don’t buy one. We’ve witnessed first hand folks changing course into different design avenues based on data generated from our project. To the folks who found us through this blog who purchased systems already, thank you. Some have already shipped to their surprise. We exhausted our stock in the first 3 hours after this post. I had ordered a bunch of parts prior to this blog and those are already exhausted before they even arrive. I had a pro enduro rider at my house today, 23 years old, super talented, but he doesn’t have the budget to buy our system. I gave him the one off my Ibis to borrow to develop his new bike for a few days. If you can’t buy one of our systems today, there will be opportunities to rent one from a qualified suspension tech or bike shop, or borrow one of your friends. Thanks again for the response. It’s a great start for us.
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 5, 2020 at 13:52
Feb 5, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
@wildedge586: My bad. I'll do 50 pushups now to repent.
MotionInstruments jamessmurthwaite's article
Feb 5, 2020 at 10:15
Feb 5, 2020
Cody Kelley Confirms His Return to Specialized
Dude is an amazing rider. He'll be deadly on that bike. He and Joe make a great team.
MotionInstruments MotionInstruments's article
Feb 5, 2020 at 10:06
Feb 5, 2020
Motion Instruments Announces 6 Data Analysis Systems
Buy a system, I'll give you free raw data. We never thought people would want this in the free version. It's more of an engineering feature. And if you're designing a bike and using our stuff to test, our software prices probably wont' break the bank. Guess we were wrong.
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