ShredG

@Blownoutrides: pretty much spot on. I do enjoy longer rides but no one has time or it's just much rarer now to coordinate all the gang for rides longer than 3h

@lindsayflowhan: I have a 2020 carbon Heckler completely custom build, I have to use low / mid assist to get decent range.. I'm probably 250# on the bike w/ gear and I get less than 18mi. out of a relatively fresh spare battery I started using less than a year ago. I also have an alloy Orbea wild w/CX4, didn't get the 100nm power boost update. 85nm is plenty and I still use mid power settings to increase range.+ I don't want it doing all the work. I'm trying to get some exercise

Solid point.. The new bikes sound awesome and I'm dying to try one, maybe in another setting these make all the sense the Sierra's or European alps with lonng steeps... I'd really like to see a solid 95- 110nm peak, 750-800w power, super battery efficiency, maximized friction reduction, high energy density 750kwh battery, 400w battery extender setup. I have yet to use the 250w extender on my Orbea to extend a ride the 85nm it has has been plenty to haul my 250#all geared up load up 3k'+ and 25+miles on 1 charge. I'm super curious how the range is affected with 1000w-1300w of power and 120+ to 150pk nm..and 700 kwh batt. U don't need all that motor power all the time so does the motor mgmt. allow them to be run in a much more efficient manner at the power levels you normally use when not grinding steeps and needing all 1000w+-

I still have a set of og Roach leg and elbow pads 😂.. certified classics by now

Wait,,.. what is so DOUCHY" about this again...? silly, strange, weird, Ican roll with... but no idea how a motorless, battery less E-bike is douchy... Maybe you just need to get laid eh?