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That doesn't look like seal specific grease...tell me I'm wrong.

I hear that, I'm sick in my mouth if the rear sidewall rolls. 30 and up at the rear on 650 2.35 schwalbe fixes it

@burnermtb: Your one of quite a few posting in this thread about the "fear". Genuinely folk over here in the UK and what Iv'e seen in Spain and Portugal, really ain't that fussed about it. Carrying on almost as before, but just social distancing and mask wearing. Don't really get the whole fear argument, implies people are trying to control others through irrational fear. That's certainly not what the gov or broadsheet papers are doing over here, they are pretty pragmatic about the whole thing. And to add: it certainly is a big deal, the disease properly batters people, I'd right rather not get it and go through it if I can. Expect that if I were to get it then I'd likely live through it and hopefully not have any lasting effects. Young or old it's a right shite thing to get through, but just like many others, carrying on as the new normal is and hoping I don't get it

@onlyDH: Fairly generalised statement that. A lot of the data gathered isn't poor and some very good studies have been done. But yes, with so many uncertainties it's hard to voice an opinion without several caveats. Other than, folks should social distance, wash hands and wear masks as much as possible - simply because it's not a big deal to and it has been shown to be beneficial and to protect other peoples health

@jclnv: Yes I agree pal, but I feel like you're making statements about assumptions I haven't made. I never stated anything with certainty. I simply said there are potential long / medium term effects which are not yet understood. This disease totally smashes young healthy people, so I'm not surprised it kills older 'weaker' ones. Thus I can imagine that it's likely the people that do make it will have some longer lasting problems from it. I've not read enough on it at this point to state anything more than that. You may not think the UK response has been better or worse, but it has been worse. We were repeatedly told we were 2 weeks ahead of Italy, yet 'we' did nothing but waited. Oh to be NZ. Your other statement is false, you've insinuated the UK pop is older than most, it isn't. I don't believe the sky is falling either, nor, seemingly do most people here; as folks are going around mostly as normal. Curious you arrived a this conclusion; assuming you're in Canada.

@ricochetrabbit: You said: "Liberals approach with this Covid is drastically different than a conservatives". As I said, there's no reason for politics to play a factor in this. The approach should be the same, everyone should do their bit, social distance as much as possible without totally destroying economies (and costing people more health / lives), people should wear masks and wash hands as much as possible. Simples. So far in this thread there's only been yourself that's brought political divides into things, I've no idea why you felt the need to, other than to start arguments.

@jclnv: @jclnv: Hammered by propaganda!?!?!!?? We have had one of the worst responses to the pandemic, so I've taken it serious and tend to read up on things - typically from validated sources. I agree with one of your points, it is exactly as I said, the data to draw conclusions of after effects of Covid aren't available, or at least i'm not aware of them. How on earth have you arrived at the conclusion that it's more likely people had diagnosed conditions rather than complications from a pretty damn serious disease!?

@ricochetrabbit: You'll see that I said "there's no reason to draw political lines..", I personally don't find them constructive. Your comment "I learned the hard way that 80% of pinkbike are liberals" added zero to the discussion. Unless of course you were simply hoping to get a reaction out of people, then you will perhaps believe you have been mildly successful.

@TheR: Yeah I'd agree that young fit athletes are in a good position to deal with an illness, however it may not be the best position as there's links between physical exertion and susceptibility to virus's. I know when I've done big races I've almost always been sick as out afterwards with a cold. As for them not being the ones who suffer with long / medium term effects, I'm not as sure as you are, at the moment I see the theories that the quantity of the initial infection appears to be a contributor to how badly the person will suffer. And with the different post effects not understood I wouldn't be able to draw a reasonable conclusion that a certain group wouldn't be affected - I've not seen the data, or don't believe there is data on this yet with which to draw such a conclusion. As an example of 'after effects' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/15/fears-covid-may-leave-thousands-in-uk-with-severe-kidney-disease-long-term-effects-coronavirus

@TheR: I agree with everything you say. Though I think rather than "they will be fine" you mean "they will not die". Which are quite different things. People only seem to discuss Covid in a binary sense, you die or don't, which doesn't give the credit (not the right word to use) to the people now suffering with medium term effects post "recovery". I agree with the lack of guarantee for a vaccine, hence my quoation marks around "the". I would be surprised if one is not found though. Typically with these things it's resource that's the issue, if something is impacting economies then it's going to (and is) get the resources required.