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@slackedmtb: All things do have their physical limits, yes. However Ti cranks outlast other premium cranks positioned in the lightweight, performance category. We would hope that each of these riders reached out to our support team to discuss coverage under warranty! All welded eeWings that have ever been sold are still covered under their 10 year warranty and Electric Wings have yet to produce any claims.

Several factors could go in to this decision. Kitsuma still has higher oil volume in the damper, made in full DH sizes, and includes the classic DB four way adjustment. It's a shock that we would say is still positioned for the rider that wants to get down the hill as fast as possible. A racer is likely to still choose Kitsuma - or someone who really enjoys being able to use the easy 4 way adjustment! Tigon on the other hand offers a different type of control over the spring rate and is really targeted to more mid-travel bikes that might need a little more grip & support (at the same time) for pushing the boundaries of your riding. Tigon is generally a better fit than Kitusma for clevis mount frames due to the additional bracing from RAMP Tube. If one has a mid travel bike that has plenty of progression and already runs standard coil shocks just fine (and doesn't involve clevis mount) then we would say Kitsuma or even IL are still awesome options - at a slightly lower pricepoint. We love all of our children! :)

Good question! Tigon has half as many seals compared to regular air shock, because it doesn't use a negative air spring in the RAMP Tube. Instead, to counteract the positive air spring, a small physical, negative spring aids in removing initial stiction. Tigon is far more sensitive than a typical air shock, b/c of this small negative coil spring inside, that’s working to compress shock through roughly first 10mm of stroke! With fewer seals, a much lower pressure, and the physical negative coil spring, stiction and heat buildup are still greatly reduced compared to air shock. RAMP Tube gives the benefits of air and definitely works to minimize the downsides.

It would be perfect! You'll be able to get the amount of support you need to combat a relatively high leverage ratio and the RAMP Tube is far better equipped to handle the clevis-style mounting. We've tested Tigon on several Levos, which use a similar suspension design and layout and it rode great. You'll need a 210x55 Tigon with 20x8mm hardware for the leading shock eye. Rear/bottom eye uses the Stumpy hardware that's already on your bike and easy to swap over. Just calculate your spring rate and you're ready to rock!

@Balgaroth Very astute point. Tigon has half as many seals compared to regular air shock, because it doesn't use a negative air spring in the RAMP Tube. Instead, to counteract the positive air spring, a small physical, negative spring aids in removing initial stiction. Tigon is far more sensitive than a typical air shock, b/c of this small negative coil spring inside, that’s working to compress shock through roughly first 10mm of stroke! With fewer seals, a much lower pressure, and the physical negative coil spring, stiction and heat buildup are still greatly reduced compared to air shock. RAMP Tube gives the benefits of air and definitely works to minimize the downsides.

It should fit like a charm! The additional spring rate tuning and added strength of RAMP Tube make it the perfect next shock for that bike.

@FrankS29: SJ evo & Tigon sittin' in a tree.... :)

It's a tricky distinction to make. HBO controls work by forcing oil in the damper through a restricted opening that can often be tuned to provide more or less force. When the velocity of the compression increases, you're having to force that same oil through the same restricted orifice, but now at a faster rate. What this means is that the bottom out "resistance" force felt by the rider increases, and gets harsher when hitting things at really high speed. With RAMP Tube Technology, the spring force experienced at different points in the shock stroke is always the same, no matter how quickly the shock compressed to reach said point... This is why we say that RAMP Tube provides support that is "position dependent and not velocity dependent." Furthermore - RAMP Tube allows the rider to tune the overall spring rate of the shock, starting at the sag point. Though RAMP Tube can be adjusted to mitigate bottom out events, we don't see it as just a bottom out feature - its simply a better way to tune the overall characteristics of a coil shock.

We totally understand your sentiment! We had just the same feeling, and in fact many of us here run pretty heavily damped HSR settings. The fact of the matter is that internalizing the HSR allowed us to get a stronger and more consistent damping force than if we were to use an external adjuster. This was necessary to better handle the added return spring force generated by the RAMP Tube. In fact, Tigon builds more HSR damping force than our other shocks. We designed it specifically with fast riding, and hitting big features in mind!

The current Helm chassis doesn’t allow us to go to 180mm - Jeff