essarr1972

yes sir..santa cruz are now being made in taiwan...i have a bullit that was made in america...they were made here until just a while ago...and as far as price compatibility yes..transition wants 2500.usd for a tr 450 w fox shox...in the same way you could buy an intense ss w the same fox shox for the same money...in fact a pro shop in in queens ny..ordered an intense ss in orange with the fox shox for a guy in size small...and the guy never came to pick it up...the shop owner offered it to me for 1800.s....so what would you rather pay 2500.s for a taiwanese frame or a hand built made in america intense??? dude i dont know about you but id DEFF go for the bad ass race proven intense....

yes id do...ive seen the videos but all that tech..at the end if you cut the frame in half after you've destroyed it riding..dude it just looks like plastic..i'll be it a super tech plastic...i like metal bikes be it alumm...or steel..or titanium carbon fiber looks sexy as hell...deff lite as f**k but still i dont trust it for hard core riding...it might be good as a component...but as a frame..im still not sold on it bro

im not mad..wait let me get my grammar stuff right...lol..sometimes i think my lap tops my cell and i tend to shorten or abrev words...lol..but dude seriously im not angry at anyone..i was just simply stating what i thought of in regards to pricing of said company...my bad if i annoyed or disrespected anyone..it wasnt my intension...

dude do u honestly think thoes 5 or 6 emplyees that they have..all get health benefits??comp?? insurance?? last i heard u need at least 25 emplyees b 4 u HAVE 2 provide health insurance....the building ok maybe..but look up...i said a per frame material does not cost more than 100.s...especially if u buy in bulk..but if u say is b.s. ok...i guess im wrong n ur right?? lol..but u obviously would rather pay 2500.s 4 that 3 bucks an hour 2 weld frame..by all means holms go 4 it...i giv u 3 thumbs up...intense..foes..sant cruz ALL DAY 4 me...

noo thats not 2 much 2 ask for dude..i understand all that u said n i agree w u...the bikes are designed here in america..tested in america(as well as other countrys true) and 2 make the 1st run of prototypes yes it does cost some nice money...and yes the tooling cost money...but once u've done all that...and the deal is struck for a certain # of bikes...after that 1st run...the prices should go down a lil..all the works been done..all the testings been done..people are getting paid..if they hadent been paid already...everythings been squared away..finalized.. DONE...now i rather sell a bunch of frames..bikes at a reasonable price..that way MORE people would b able 2 buy em ride em..than 2 set em at such a high price that only a few pieces would sell a year in any part of the world...every 1 thinks that if the price is high...then it MUST b a quality frame...dudes its just a bike...2 wheels 2 brakes n a seat...some of these bikes are almost rivaling a motorcycle in price...are u kidding me??? and dont even get me started on carbon fiber....super charged plastic??? com on...

stay in school....that d must stand 4 d**k lol...taiwan is the republic of china numb nutz..lol...yeeze stay in school??? lol,,lol glad i didnt go 2 ur school homie...lol

better???than what???better than american??? i think u need 2 check ur shoe my friend....theres NO WAY companies are manufacturing there bikes in taiwan cuz there better.....there cost less 2 make..point blank...

lol..lol..lol..lol..i lov the feed back guys...but seriously...anyone of u guys banging me for my comments need 2 wake up...really can anyone of u guys that i pissed off by saying what i said really sit there and tell me that ud pay...2500.s for a transition tr 450..over an intense...or foes..or santa cruz??? dudes look at the tr 450...the materials..the tubess..thoes lil tubes cost more than 100.s??? maybe in bulk ok i get that...but i mean per frame...naaa boys i dont think so...no way a per frame material cost 100.s.....im looking at the big picture u guys are just eye candy brand loyal...and thats kool...im just saying that id rather pay 2500.s for an AMERICAN made product...b 4 id pay it for any other brand reguardless of whether its made in china..taiwan..japan..or mars lol..thats all...damn didnt mean 2 step over ur toes...if u like 2500.s taiwaneese frames by all means budds go 4 it...i aint hateing...i like transition bikes just not sure if there worth the price..thats all im saying...anyways time 2 go ride...

tr 450= 2400.s w shock??? blindside= 1766.s w shock bottle rocket= 1509.s w shock double= 1499.s w shock....for what?? lil chineese people welding frames in a factory for like 3.s an hour... OUTRAGEOUS

i like the transition bikes...but has any 1 gone 2 there web site n seen the outrageous prices there asking 4 there frames??? r u kidding me?? 2.400.00s for a tr 450 frame n shock!!!! what r these boys smoking?? thoes frames r made in taiwan for crying out loud...there prob made for about 100.s a frame if that...n soon as they import them here 2 the good ol u.s.a. they want that price 4 em?? damn u can get better made frames from u.s.a. for that money...i dig there stuff dont get me wrong...i use 2 ride flat land w kyle young wayyyy back in the day he's a cool dude..but come on...why do we bike junkies have 2 b raped financially 4 the sport we love??? damn...is stuff really that diff 2 make??is material cost that expensive?? is shipping em back here from wherever that expensive?? hell no man.... its just like everything else in society thats wrong...GREED...