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sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 7, 2019 at 16:30
May 7, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@lusenator: honestly this thing would be so amazing on an aggressive low and ~66-67 degree hardtail. I think it would be such a fun combo
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 7, 2019 at 16:22
May 7, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@ckcost: hah thanks! I felt like a tool describing my riding ability, but I know it’s really helpful for people reading it. Also something I should mention about landings jumps/drops is that it spikes but it never feels crazy bad. It doesn’t feel like something is going to snap, it’s just jarring, especially next to the super supple initial travel of the evil following’s rear suspension. This front/rear imbalance also comes up when pumping through rollers. The rear blows through travel when pumping but the front doesn’t. But it’s not a fault of the fork - I wish my rear suspension was stiffer when pumping. But it does feel odd at first, on this bike. This effect will depend on the bike of course Something else I want to mention is that for trials stuff and endos/whatever else it’s mostly fine. I thought it would make everything feel way different/harder because of the anti brake-dive effect, but you adjust super easily and I’ve never had a problem with endo 180’s or whatever else. The one downside is that bunny hopping is harder, as mentioned above. (Due to lack of preloading)
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 7, 2019 at 12:59
May 7, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@bok-CZ: I ride it on an evil following mb. The previous fork I used was an mrp ribbon, but I didn’t have much time on it. I’ve since used some other telescoping forks at a demo day (Fox 34, fox 36). My previous bike, which I had a ton of time on was an XC hardtail (trek procaliber) with a SID xx fork. So I’m probably not the best judge of damper performance. That being said there are some things that are very obvious about the message. Before I get into that, some background about me so you can try to judge what my opinion is worth. To give you an idea of where I stand in terms of ability, I was proud of doing the drop in to horsethief bench on my hardtail when I visited fruita 9 months ago, and rode all the features on the main trail clockwise. (I’ve progressed since then, but I think that’s the best known technical trail segment I’ve done that you can find good videos of on YouTube ). I’m good at technical stuff, up and down. I’m good at drops. I’m a relatively shit jumper (low consequence 8-10 foot gaps are where I top out, and I don’t do them often or with style). Alright, obvious stuff first: It doesn’t react to body inputs, especially on climbs. This is because the initial axle path is very rearwards. Which means when you push down on it, you aren’t pushing along the axis of travel. If you’re climbing something reasonably steep, this effect is even more noticeable. The easiest way to explain this is to imagine that you were climbing a 45 degree slope with a bike that has a 45 degree head angle. The fork’s direction of travel would be forwards/backwards and your up and down bobbing wouldn’t affect it. This is a huge exaggeration of what’s happening in the trust forks initial travel. It’s a little more subtle on the trust, but it still feels like cheating on climbs. It doesn’t bob, but when a bump comes from in front, it pushes the wheel back and then up into its travel. It absorbs bumps on climbs but is super efficient, and it feels so so good. also because the trail is lower when it’s near the top of the travel, it feels nimble. Now for the opposite end of the spectrum: steep slow technical rocky steep descents. In this orientation (bike pointed down) the fork sags more, because of the direction of travel. But because the direction of travel changes through the stroke (to be more vertical deeper in the travel), it doesn’t sag insanely far. And because there is a lot less brake dive, you end up riding higher in the travel than with a conventional fork. Or at least I think that’s what’s going on. In any case it feels amazing here too. Super composed, super stable. The trail being higher when you’re deeper in the travel certainly plays a role and makes it feel even more confidence inspiring. I never noticed the wheelbase getting shorter as a downside. Now for the in between, more rolling trails. If it’s flowy, this thing is great, it’s so easy to pump through rollers. If it’s chunky but relatively flat (or high speed steeper stuff where you don’t really have to think and you just plow) I don’t think it’s better or worse than a normal fork. A little different, but I don’t really have a strong opinion. I think this is where the damper plays a bigger role than the axle path, and where I think I’d need to do more back to back testing with other forks. But when you’re just plowing I think the total displacement (120 mm linear, 130 contour) and damper are way more important than axle path. The trust doesn’t blow any minds here. Or at least not mine. Now for airtime: The biggest advantage of the fork is also the biggest disadvantage. The fact that the fork is so immune to rider movement means the fork isn’t poppy. You can’t preload the fork for a jump like you can with a normal fork. It’ll still take off fine, but it’s noticeably (even to me) harder to boost jumps. You can’t push down into it and expect it to push back. It’s like bunnyhopping on a rigid fork. Landings are also a lot harsher. Because landing the bike flat is essentially the same thing as pushing the bike down into the ground at high speeds, it’s harsh. The direction of travel for the first 30mm is all wrong - it still absorbs the landings fine because it gets past that part of the travel on big enough hits, but it spikes really hard when you first hit the ground, especially if you land rear wheel first and the front slaps down onto the ground. The workaround here is to land nose heavy. If you land nose heavy you can get some buttery smooth landings. Also it feels really good in berms, probably the trail increasing. Idk but it’s a lot of fun. TLDR: Pros: Steeps up or down Pumping Carving corners Neutrals: Flatter rock gardens/ general chunky stuff that you kind of just plow through Cons: Jumps and drops Weight Price Looks All of this being said, I’m really excited about longer travel versions.
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 6, 2019 at 20:57
May 6, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@Shartriloquist: I was going to shit on you for making fun of my usage of the word dope, but then reread my comment I used that word 2 (3?) too many times lol.
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 6, 2019 at 12:39
May 6, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@nwfreeride: agreed, even if people here never buy this fork, someone somewhere buying this fork means that someone somewhere will now be offloading a perfectly good Pike/34/ribbon/whatever.
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 6, 2019 at 12:36
May 6, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
Mostly agree with JKW’s review* my thoughts are elsewhere in this thread
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 6, 2019 at 12:34
May 6, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@skycripp: yeah there are a lot of people who buy stuff like this because they have the money and why not. But the product itself can still be really fucking good.
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 6, 2019 at 12:33
May 6, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@PHeller: that review confuses me. I ride and really like the trust fork, and agree with Jeff Kendall Weed’s review As a 180 pound rider I’ve gotten the trust fork to a good spot. My lsc is lower than trusts recommendation, as is my pressure. I’ve also added a couple tokens. But it’s in a good spot now. Over the past few months, reading some of the reviews I started wondering if I just had some variant of Stockholm syndrome - I liked it even though it was awful because I got used to it (and riding bikes is always fun). This weekend I went to a demo day, and got to ride some awesome bikes with telescoping forks, everything from a yeti sb100 to a stumpy evo. My conclusion after going back and forth is that I’m sticking to my trust fork. (Side note: I agree trust didn’t handle this particular interaction in the blog post well - but I’ve had a couple issues/questions about mine and they’ve always been handled really well.)
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 6, 2019 at 12:09
May 6, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
@oldtech: there it is! You don’t actually care about performance and just want a pretty bike! I swear, this thing could be the best fork and have no compromises whatsoever (I think it’s great, but it has compromises) and people would still say it sucks based on looks alone
sdurant12 TrustPerformance's article
May 6, 2019 at 11:51
May 6, 2019
Trust Chops $725 Off Their Linkage Fork
Yeah, but they’re definitely working on other models, so it’ll make more sense once those come out
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