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If something did happen it would be good for Transition bikes to acknowledge any responsibility they had and to put any rumours to rest. In the same context it's also unfair to spread rumours about someone or some entity without having any sort of substantial proof.

@blowmyfuse: Thanks for sharing that extra info. It's great seeing companies trying to something different that helps to improve the lives of people in their communities instead of just sending jobs overseas just to take advantage of cheap labour costs.

@freestyIAM: Daryl Davis would disagree. His interview with Joe Rogan is fire. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvMNaDDfrN0

@heephop: You would benefit from examining the concept of epistemology, examining how we know what we know and how that affects we view the world.

@heephop: Sorry bud, that's just not it. That fact that you can't sit here and have a reasonable conversation about this topic without throwing insults and demeaning people shows how far off base your ideas are. If you really had a strong case you wouldn't need to resort to personal and group attacks to make your point.

@heephop: Woke actually has it roots in the safety of the Black community were the term "stay woke" is about being aware of the police and racially motivated threats. Unfortunately it's become twisted in it's meaning in an attempt to represent something more nefarious, often by people on the right. I can see how some people might want to connect it to Marxist ideology as recently woke has come to include having a good social conscious that includes being against racism, violence and forms of oppression that affect many different segments of society including women, people in the LGBTQ+ community, differing ethnicities, differing religious and generally just about any sort of behaviour or language that's intended to put down people who are different from the speaker or agent of such behaviour. That said woke is as simple as just being a good person and doesn't have to be attached to any specific political ideology or movement. People from all spectrums of life can be woke, whether one is on the right or left. There is no shame in wanting to do right by other people and help lift them up instead of pushing them down.

@heephop: That's not even close to what woke means, but thanks for sharing your own interpretation of it.

@heephop: Sorry that comment offended you, based on your previous comments I thought you were strong enough to handle a little ribbing. It would still be good to hear you explain why you think fair work practices are a bad thing and how/why you think that is woke ideology. Edit: Ah, there's your explanation.

@heephop: I never thought I'd see someone broadcast their support for child labour and suggest that having 8yr olds work in a garment factory is a key part of a profitable business. Weird. I don't watch CNN (or any US news media as I previously stated) either, which highlights why you seem to be having so much trouble with this discussion - you're misreading just about everything everyone else has typed to suit your own narrative and have completely ignored key parts of the article. ps - You still haven't shared your own understanding of what woke is. Should we continue to wait or just assume that you're not able to put something together?

@heephop: I did say $50K across all job categories and that labour jobs would have been making less. You think it's low skill, but do you know the skill involved to make custom garments? Could you describe the process to design and manufacture a garment under the model Kitsbow was using? On a global scale 17K garments is like a flea fart, about 325 per week. Even for the US, 17K garments is not a lot - and that is spread over a wide range of garments. Re people not working, sure some people are not back to working full time, but there are a variety of reasons not only the one you insinuate. The participation rate is getting back to what it was pre-pandemic. Oh, I don't watch MSNBC at all and hardly pay any attention to American news media in general.