180

 i don't know if you can already 180 and yohaving a u are just having a shit day or if you are beginning to learn them, but try to look farther around(the way you spin of course) and focus on spinning faster. i was having the same problem as u but i finally got them

 yeah that on ice and theres snow every where and i threw out my back doing benchpress

 wow this was a waste of my time nice one mobley