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Kyle Warner - vaccine complication

Kyle Warner - vaccine complication

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 Why hasn't Pinkbike written a story about him having an adverse reaction to the vaccine? It should be posted. It is a pretty big story for the mountain bike world. Pinkbike always posts injury articles of pro mountain bikers when they hear of it. I'm sure they have heard of this story.
  • + 4
 That's an excellent question. We could only guess at what the answer would be.
I'm assuming no fault of [theirs],and fully understand the current climate created by politicizing opinions of this vaccine. We SHOULD hear both sides of ANY issue as important as this, agree? But the way this has been media-controlled in order to stifle anyone discussing a story or a narrative contrary to what's been forced upon the public to accept has created something dangerous. In many arenas of public discussion, if one merely suggests that there are people who have had adverse reactions, that story is targeted and the individual is falsely accused of being TOTALLY opposed to ANY support of the vaccine, which we know isn't true.
So in other words if you post a story about someone like Kyle Warner you're targeted as if your entire organization is on an "anti-vax" campaign. And because of that, we can no longer logically accept that we're "following the science" as so many have suggested is necessary. Scientific examination requires all data for one to draw the best conclusion at the outcome of your study. It's becoming obvious that although these vaccines are helpful and even essential for many people, may not be the most necessary choice due to growing numbers of possible risk factors. If we were allowed to see ALL evidence from both sides of the discussion (or investigation) into this, we'd have the best tools at the current time to make the most informed decisions as to which of us, our family members, and loved ones should (or shouldn't) feel that a covid vaccine is something that should be taken sooner, or later, or ever.

I'm not here to cause any arguments or discussions about this really, even though I posted these two videos. I feel that anyone at a calculated higher risk of contracting covid or with higher medical/statistical concerns SHOULD be allowed to get a vaccine whenever they want it, and as soon as they can get it. With obvious statistics and data emerging it becomes evident that not EVERYONE is at equal risk from contracting the virus OR from mitigating the risks against efficacy of the vaccine(s).
Since this has become a hot-button mainly due to social pressures forcing people to support unconstitutional federal mandates, even though many of us obviously support vaccines for many people, we're no longer being allowed to even suggest it may not be for everyone.

I swear to you I'm trying carefully to sound unbiased about this. I love the members here and have great conversations with all of you, and learn a lot from the members here. I'm not in any way attempting to create an argumentative narrative about this. Please don't take it that way. I've never been in the BLUE CULT or the RED CULT. I just wanted to post these in my own PinkBike profile so anyone that hasn't heard about what happened to him could get his story. I wouldn't want ANY of you to experience what happened to Kyle, and I ALSO wouldn't want ANY of you (or any of your loved ones) to suffer serious illness from covid either.

Regardless of how the administrators of PinkBike may feel about this ISSUE, I wouldn't change my opinion about them if they believe it's not in their best interest to post stories like Kyle's. It's like saying "maybe we should protect the borders better", and then being automatically and incorrectly accused of being a you-know-who supporter (you know.. president Sam Kinison).

Now after that, I'll go back to writing bland jokes and shameless unentertaining comedic anecdotes to post here...

~JSV
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flag ElDebarge (Dec 16, 2021 at 21:30) (Below Threshold)
 Why hasn’t PB written stories of the millions who’ve had no reaction and were saved by the vaccine?
  • + 1
 @ElDebarge: Because it doesn't help for shit? no, but in all seriousness, the risk of the vaccine is WAY too dangerous to outweigh the slight benefit. For men between 12 and 35, heart problems are very likely. There is no way in hell I'll ever get the vaccine, especially since I've had covid 3 times, and it's not that bad for anyone in decent health. I'm not going to tell you how to live or what to do, but I would like to inform everyone and help keep the truth insight.
  • + 3
 @Charlie-N: cite some data. what exactly do way too dangerous and very likely exactly mean? Sounds like some Fox News facts right there. 70 out every million men under 30 may develop heart problems due to the vaccine or .0007%, according to the CDC. You have a higher likelihood dying in a car accident or being seriously injured on your mountain bike. Better bubble wrap up and turn on your boy Tucker Carlson.
  • + 0
 @ElDebarge: I'd like to start by saying that it has a higher rate of adverse affects than almost any vaccine ever, and in many cases is more dangerous than COVID it's self. The statistic you gave was almost definitely cherry picked, since I've seen numbers all the way from 200 out of a million and 10 out of a million. If you still trust the CDC, you haven't done enough research; they report very flawed statistics and have been proved wrong on many occasions(mask effectiveness, COVID mortality rates, etc.). You are correct about the mountain biking thing, it is dangerous, however, getting the vaccine is comparable porously crashing your bike so you know how to, it might be ok, but it's more likely that you end up getting hurt. one good podcast for more reputable information(if you don't mind some profanity) is the Joe Rogan Show and Steven Crowder

open.spotify.com/show/4rOoJ6Egrf8K2IrywzwOMk
www.blazetv.com/series/1RBcFcMd5N0w-louder-with-crowder-latest-episodes

You might need to pick through these a bit, but they do have very good and mostly accurate information. I might take your advice on the bubble wrap though, that sounds like a great summer pastime.
  • + 2
 @Charlie-N: Joe Rogan is a brilliant scientist. Got his start on fear factor so he’s def legit. Let’s agree to disagree. Just hope youre cool with the folks you might have infected and made seriously I’ll or even killed walking around with Covid three times. I’m cool with your personal choice if you are cool with your personal choice jeopardizing the health of your fellow community members. Seems selfish to me, but who I am I to say.
  • + 1
 @ElDebarge: First off, when I had covid I stayed home until I was better. Second of all, If I did spread it, it was not to anyone who might be in serious danger. People are in charge of their own health, it's not my problem. Anyway, It's been a pleasure, good talk!
  • + 5
 @ElDebarge: I just stumbled across this thread again today and thought it would be interesting to ask if you feel any bit foolish or regretful for parroting stats and propaganda direct from the manufacturers about the risks associated with the vaccine?

There have been so many studies that have conclusively shown the risks from the vaccine are far higher than the companies claimed. People like yourself took these pharmaceutical company claims and villified those who didn't believe them. It would be like believeing Monsanto that Roundup is totally harmless because they have studies to prove it. Do you feel any remorse or regret for that because you guys sure did go out of your way to make life extraordinarily difficult for those of us who chose not to get the vaccine and have since been vindicated.
  • + 1
 @humoroususername: Also, smoking industry claimed for decades that smoking was harmless. They paid doctors and scientists to put out studies that show that smoking was not harmful. I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I'm an anti-not-been-proven vaxxer. I don't think the vaccines have been proven over the long term especially when it is for a disease that has a 99.8% survival rate.

So far in the 1.5 years the vaccines has rolled out, the data we have seen is 1. That they wane in a couple of months 2. That they don't work well in preventing infection and very debatable that they reduce severe symptoms 3. There are insane amount of adverse effects reported on VAERS that they are not really investigating. 4. CDC is now treating vaccinated and unvaccinated the same.

The data coming in is not looking great on the vaccines that many of countries are now not even talking about COVID or the vaccines much.
  • + 2
 @tacklingdummy: Shit, How do I un-dislike this? I misclicked! You are correct in everything you said though, good job.
  • + 3
 @charlesnunez: I lost a lot of respect for Pinkbike not posting this article and censoring so many vaccine comments. Here is more data. You can make up your own mind what you think of it. Personally I trust three whistleblower military doctors because they really have nothing to gain from bringing awareness to the data.

www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/2022/2/sen-johnson-to-secretary-austin-has-dod-seen-an-increase-in-medical-diagnoses-among-military-personnel


newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video

newsrescue.com/senate-second-opinion-whistleblower-bombshell-dod-data-reveals-expanded-vax-adverse-events-3-fold-cancer-300-miscarriages
  • + 2
 @ElDebarge: we need these uneducated poor idiots in our society. Let them think how they want. Otherwise who will work at Walmart, gas stations, Cracker Barrel, RV stores, Bass Pro Shops?? With these people around, we are the highest earners and have zero competition at the executive level. So I say, yes freedom of speech and thought! #Trump2024 #MAGA
  • + 1
 @SterlingArcher: Yeah, calling people uneducated poor idiots without even knowing about them is really high level civilized behavior. You just spew nonsense and name call without anything to back it up with any evidence or facts. That is extremely low level behavior.

What is your education and background? From your comments you really sound like you are very uneducated with no experience and no science background.
  • + 0
 @tacklingdummy: sorry, apologies, it’s just funny to me that you have no idea who you’re talking to, but especially what you’re talking about hahaha
  • + 1
 @SterlingArcher: Seeing how all the bad data with adverse effects and vaccines not working has been surfacing from all over the world, Enjoy taking your 4 vaccine shots per year. Good Luck with that.
  • + 4
 I know huh? See the other one, the follow-up. He gets into further details of his laundry list of health problems. I really liked his instructional videos too, and I had a friend that was watching those. Great MTBer and champ enduro racer but may have to cut his career short because of this.
~JSV
  • + 4
 @petepr, Thanks. That's a very powerful article. You can't help but feel bad for the guy. He's seemingly very honest, and all he did was want to tell his story and share what actually happened to him. In the 2 videos I posted from y00b00b he wasn't pushing ANY agenda or forcing opinions on anyone, in fact he was very objective still even after what happened to him, and I respect that. You think his friends and fans would SUPPORT him through this wtf?!

Thanks for that link BTW I'll be sharing that w/friends that are interested in his story. I really hope someday he'll get over this and continue his talented career.

~JSV
  • + 3
 Damn. Get better man!

It’s a complicated issue that both sides have messed up…
  • + 3
 scary shit.....
  • + 1
 way to go PB...show true colors!????
  • + 1
 He's here in Boise? I want that signature!
  • + 0
 Remember kids, any science that can’t be questioned is just propaganda.
  • - 3
 Let’s bitch about it when 99.9% of the population is fine. Covid had way more adverse effects. This shouldn’t be given any time.
  • + 1
 www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10539871/French-No-1-Gael-Monfils-blames-adverse-reaction-Covid-booster-recent-withdrawals.html

What about these lads? Are they making it up too? It's amazing how people don't want to hear any debate about something that could affect them. It's as if pharmaceutical companies have never covered up or falsified data before....

Can someone please name me one athlete who has been forced into retirement by Covid? I've heard of hundreds of athletes who have had covid and all of them resumed their careers as normal. f*ck it, in mountain biking most of last years world champions contracted Covid last winder before there was any covid vaccine available to them. It didn't seem to do any of them any harm. I haven't heard of a single case of an athlete with covid having his career ended or having effects anything like as serious as the ones Kyle got.
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