RockShox Vivid Air and Coil Prototypes - Pietermaritzburg World Cup

Mar 14, 2012 at 12:42
Mar 14, 2012
by Mike Levy  
 
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RockShox's BlackBox racing program serves as a development tool to test products on the race course, allowing them to provide their top level athletes with the latest technology that is likely still a ways off from being available to the consumer. It isn't uncommon to see sponsored BlackBox riders running components that you may have never spotted before, and that is exactly the case with the two prototype Vivid shocks, one air sprung and one coil sprung, that are being tested between the tape this weekend at the Pietermaritzburg World Cup.

Rock Shox Blackbox boss Jon Cancellier gives us a sneak peak at Troy Brosnan s Vivid Air prototype featuring compression rebound and rebound end stroke adjustments as well as a volume adjuster.
RockShox BlackBox boss Jon Cancellier holds up Monster Energy / Specialized team rider Troy Brosnan's Vivid Air prototype. There is a new volume adjustment dial on the piggy back, but our sources also tell us that both air and coil BlackBox Vivids feature heavily reworked internals.

Many RockShox sponsored riders are likely to be running the lighter and more tuneable Vivid Air shock on the relatively smooth and pedal-heavy Pietermaritzburg track, but only a lucky few select BlackBox racing program members will be allowed to use the prototype shock shown above. The most obvious update is the additional dial at the end of the shock's piggy back that likely serves to adjust the volume of the chamber, thereby allowing riders to tune the shock to be more linear or progressive. It isn't entirely clear from the photo if RockShox also allows a shock pump to be fitted to make further alterations, but we'd be surprised if this is the case. It also appears to now feature a proper dial for the ending stroke rebound adjuster, no longer requiring a hex key to make changes.

Prototype Rock Shox Vivid shock with new adjustments.
The coil sprung BlackBox Vivid also features the new volume adjustment dial that adds another tuning option, as well as changes to its top out spring assembly.

RockShox tactfully dodged most of our questions about the two new shocks, simply stating that Hill and other BlackBox riders have played key roles in the the shock's tuning. Having said that, we have solid information that significant changes have been made to the internals of both, including a completely altered top out assembly. Why does that matter? The top out spring can also be utilized as a negative spring, helping to push the shock into its travel ever so slightly at the top of the stroke. Many of RockShox's air sprung forks feature adjustable negative pressure for this very reason, allowing the suspension action to be either more supple or slightly firmer at the top of its stroke. While the negative springs on both of the prototype Vivid shocks don't look to be adjustable, we can only assume that the internal changes have been done to further increase suppleness, an especially important trait on any air spring shock.


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59 Comments

  • + 58
 I love all this yummy hype about all the prototype stuff!!!!
  • + 3
 i hope these do come into consumer availability as they look like they've had quite a revamp in terms of how the perform and adjust
  • + 5
 The way the adjustments knobs are located reminds me of a Motocross shock,this could be handy for the more complex frame designs.
  • + 3
 Bit nicer than the usual rebound positioning.
  • + 2
 yeah on some frames u have to stick your fingers in and click it one at a time
  • + 2
 pretty impossible on my demo, have no choice but to use an allen key
  • + 3
 yes, all of you, please go out and buy new shiny things so I can upgrade my old less shiny things! Except I really want the vivid air Frown
  • + 1
 God I still barely know how to adjust old shock adjusments little lone all this new fancy stuff, but you gota love these prototypes
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  • + 2
 I can't help but to notice. It seems like there is another small ring knob under the main black ones and there's a chance it might be an R2C2 and it might be similar to the CCDB, with all the controls up on the resevoir side.
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  • + 4
 The Vivid Air is a monster of a shock. It really does feel like holding a big Monster drink in your hands.
  • + 25
 Feels like something else I hold in my hands that's big and performs well.
  • + 2
 ^ if you know what I mean.
  • + 1
 i saw what you did there!
  • + 6
 @waldon83 VITAMIN WATER!
  • + 1
 ummm, chainsaw? lol
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  • + 1
 Top out spring assembly on a coil shock.... wtf is that? Top out is reduced or eliminated on a coil shock using a tear shaped "dent" on the rebound bleed port, so I don't know what the hell these guys are claiming.
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  • + 0
 I just wonder why did RS bother releasing Vivid Air two years ago if at this moment they have already nearly completely changed it inside out. I guess they just wanted to be the first, knowing other work on similar stuff as well.
  • + 2
 Money... My guess is they are probably working out the bugs of the THIRD generation of the Vivair now as we speak , to adress all the flaws they know exist with this year's Vivair 2nd Gen . Don't worry that one will be available in the Spring of 2014. It's all designed to remove everyday MTBers from an extra week's paycheck. Honestly, though, this is why I didnt jump on the 1st gen Vivair when it came out in 2010. You just knew they were gonna right back with a redesign. From what Ive heard of the guys who have the 1st gen, they love it!! However the 1st gen doesnt save that much weight. It weighs slightly less than a RC4 with a TI spring.
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  • + 3
 it was the only thing that miss on both vivid, volume adjustement! Now they did it! Can't wait to test it!
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  • + 0
 Wow E wow wow ! Gota like the new year ! New new new never changes like me the rider since 1987 ! I love the race gear its my passion ! Peace p.s. Anybody know if freecaster is streaming the world cup this weekend ? Iam heading to Sqampton this weekend so need a the time within a hour to get the guyz around the boob tube ! Peace and RIDE hard or RIDE home alone !
  • + 1
 'Only a few selected riders will be running the prototype' they're only sponsoring about three people this year anyway!
  • + 1
 Yea maybe the stuff will get cheaper thanks to that!
  • + 1
 Nor more freecaster.....now it's carried at redbull.com
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  • + 2
 Both look amazing!!

But danny hart's proto looks like it has a DLC coating? www.southerndownhill.com/images/stories/Video/Sram/giant-glory-2012.jpg
  • + 2
 that looks like a standard anodized coating?
  • + 2
 Yeah the ones on this article do, but the black one on the link?
  • + 3
 What black one? If you mean the forks, yes. If you mean the shock, check your eyesight.
  • + 0
 I was talking to Primoz not you,yes that is a DLC shaft on Harts Vivid.
  • + 1
 Ooooh, mwaahha thought it was!
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  • + 2
 what does that small print say (not into small print usauly meen warrenty is voided)
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  • + 2
 how much is it going to be?
  • + 0
 I presume your joking right?
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  • + 2
 Looks like he's an avid mustache fan.
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  • + 2
 "RockShox BlackBox boss..." Say that fast a bunch o' times.
  • + 2
 Yea I've just been to the bathroom, said it 5 times in front of the mirror and the blurry vision of John Cancellier appeared, telling me to STFU!
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  • + 1
 any one know if they are gonna ever be out to the rest of us or just pros ?
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  • + 2
 I think that he's holding that shock In a strategic way, just a hunch.
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  • + 1
 Im going to be honest, the old vivid air looked way sicker. Kind of bummed here!
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  • + 1
 Rad Shocks! Think were goin to see a lot more Products this Season! But cool Shocks though!
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  • + 1
 when will this be on the market??
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  • + 1
 nice, let the races begin.
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  • - 1
 Remember when you was young and you would make a small circle with on hand while pushing your finger in and out of the circle these shocks are the same thing lol .
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  • + 1
 this product is fantasticSmile i bought half a dozen!!
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  • + 1
 it is just me or it has a bigger eyelet?
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  • + 1
 Great!! Now I have a old Vivid Air.
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  • + 1
 looks like a grenade of sorts
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  • - 3
 Okay, Pinkbike, your sources tell you it has completely reworked internals? What about the completely new position of the compression and rebound dials on the body to piggy bridge? Isn't that a significantly big hint to a completely (damping circuit wise) reworked shock?
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  • + 1
 P.S forgot to mention both do look the BUSINESS tough.
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  • + 1
 Looks like a sweet new shock. I want
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  • + 1
 RS for life bishes!
  • + 5
 It's okay. You're allowed to swear here.
  • + 4
 Lisp maybe?
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  • + 1
 I love this thing!
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