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Mathew Morrissey - HT Downhill
A film of Mathew Morrissey from Cardigan, West Wales riding his Local and self built track, on his Scott hardtail. Shot and edited in one day, Shot on a Canon 7D with a 50mm F1.8, 17-40mm f4, 300mm f4 and a rode videomic. Filmed and edited by Ben Walton. HD- http://video.mpora.com/watch/HFX2Q3AkO/
75 Comments
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captyvatemedia
(Dec 12, 2010 at 21:25)
If this doesn't get VOD, I will have lost all faith in Pinkbike.
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Hey BW would you mind sharing what your timeline settings are in your editing program? You should def. fix it so that you don't have frame blending! (seems like you have 24p footy on a 30p timeline) or are you doing 50p?
That rider is sick on that nimble bike.
That rider is sick on that nimble bike.
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Hey man, noo, there's no frame blending, I made sure of that. The footage is 50fps, and the timeline settings is 720p 25 (Premiere Pro)
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Hmmm ok, it might have been apon export. Oh well whatever works for you! (I see the frame blending).
How's the 7D so far?
How's the 7D so far?
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Great video, VOD for sure! But its kinda depressing to know he's so much faster than me on a little hardtail
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Really nice film, beautifully composed and the colours were ace
But...
I really hope this trend of video's shot on DSLR will die out. Why? I f*cking HATE the rolling shutter effect you get on a DSLR. It drives me crazy not being able to concentrate on a video because its flickering all over the place when theres any more than the slightest bit of movement! Granted the shallow depth of field is a nice tool but if your a film maker then just buy a video camera with a 4/3rds sensor for christ sake! Or even a cheap camcorder with a DoF adapter! Arghhhh!
Apologies.
Rant over.
But...
I really hope this trend of video's shot on DSLR will die out. Why? I f*cking HATE the rolling shutter effect you get on a DSLR. It drives me crazy not being able to concentrate on a video because its flickering all over the place when theres any more than the slightest bit of movement! Granted the shallow depth of field is a nice tool but if your a film maker then just buy a video camera with a 4/3rds sensor for christ sake! Or even a cheap camcorder with a DoF adapter! Arghhhh!
Apologies.
Rant over.
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I'm thinking of getting a canon 550D DSLR for shooting video. What would you suggest instead of this and could you give me any good and bad points of both as I will be new to it all once next year gets started
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550 is a solid camera dude, its easy to get on with. Downsides is the manual focus in video which can take some getting used to! And bunkey, its true that its a pain, and as video makers ourselves I know we tend to spot it, but if you get the majority of your shots right then you can create some really beautiful video and people will just sit there open mouthed despite the fact that the tree in the background was flickering oddly and bending as it was panned past! Plus, the versatility you get with the lenses, and the portability, as well as being able to combine solid stills with it (if you're a photographer, one thing I don't get so much is people JUST buying them for video. You actually need to have your photography basics down and sorted to get more than just 'HD video' out of them). For sports like mountain biking where its no fun to lug pieces of kit like a sony HVR-z1 around on a mountain when you're just going filming with some mates, they're perfect, and I don't think the trend is going to die out anytime soon!
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Bunkey do you even no what the effects of rolling shutter are before making a rant like that? Rolling shutter will cause the bending of objects such as trees as the image is not all scanned at exactly the same time. The strobing type effect is merely a product of a high shutter speed or frame blending through exporting as far as I'm aware.
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Yes I'm fully aware of what rolling shutter looks like (And yeah, Ben forgot to uncheck Frame Blending on export which exaggerated the flickering) - I'm pretty sure the flickering is a by-product of rolling shutter - Flickering was the wrong word to use maybe - I was referring to the way the motion doesn't seem smooth and continuous when there is a lot of movement across the frame (Which would make sense re: Rolling shutter in comparison to Global shutter ie. film, or when compared to video captured on a sensor optimised for video). I think this image sums up what I'm trying to say:
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/CMOS_rolling_shutter_distortion.jpg
As far as I'm aware the distortion in that sense throws the continuity of the motion as the effect doesn't act in the same way frame to frame, so the same object can appear to cover more ground in one frame compared to the next if you get me? Thus affecting the continuity.
If you want to continue, then do so via PM. I've already apologised to Ben for venting on his vid - I knew I was going to get slated for it
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/CMOS_rolling_shutter_distortion.jpg
As far as I'm aware the distortion in that sense throws the continuity of the motion as the effect doesn't act in the same way frame to frame, so the same object can appear to cover more ground in one frame compared to the next if you get me? Thus affecting the continuity.
If you want to continue, then do so via PM. I've already apologised to Ben for venting on his vid - I knew I was going to get slated for it
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I don't see any rolling shutter in this video, I just see the affect of having a fast shutter speed which makes it more strobe-like and the fact that there is frame blending which is annoying, I dont see any bending of objects or anything that rolling shutter produces.
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After some research I am 95% sure the choppiness is due to a) Rolling shutter (Don't ask me how - but it is generally regarded as a main cause) and b) the fact that the 7D is having to produce a 2.2mp frame with an 18mp sensor and all it has to do this with is a DIGIC IV processor - So it adopts various techniques including skipping lines on the sensor - This means that anything moving faster than the 24, 30, 50 or 60 frames that are read can fall between the lines and create motion which doesn't appear smooth - as we see in biking films. Granted a fast shutter speed and frame blending wont help, but it is definitely there even with the other settings optimised. Watch the coastal crew webisodes (which are produced very well) and you can clearly see that the shots with a lot of movement aren't smooth due to said problems with DSLR's. Go look it up if you still need proof.
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Thanks, Shutter speed varied depending on the amount of light, ranged from about 1/800 to 1/4000.
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sweet ya i think when you bump it up to 1/4000 it looks like the riders kind of skipping but its just a suggestion, it might just be dslrs im experimenting with mine like at 1/250