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And in case anyone cares, the FULL groupset can be bough for 2000EUR from one of the german sites.https://www.bike-components.de/de/Shimano/XTR-M9100-Gruppe-1x12-p65481/ Waiting for the first build with this.

The "old" 4 piston caliper was launched like 2-3 months ago in the form of BR-M8020.

@poah: You do not veto a directive, you can just chose how to implement a directive. Also a directive is directed at one or more members so many times does not apply to all of them. For the sake of not wasting time here, please read the differences between various legal acts of EU @ https://europa.eu/european-union/eu-law/legal-acts_en

@greglikesspecialized: Dude, I said Scotland voted to remain in EU and this means the majority counts. If you have an issue with how elections/referendums/etc are working, talk with your local law maker.

@toby9843: Of course not every scot voted the same but I am talking about votes and this means we are talking percentages. Single votes do not count in the big picture. Sorry and welcome to the real world.

Sorry, but you are wrong. EC wants to amend a directive and a directive is is a legal act that does dictate the state members the desired result. The local laws must be different but the outcome will be pretty much the same, you must have an insurance company backing up in case of incidents. The proposal for amendment is @ https://ec.europa.eu/info/publications/180524-proposal-motor-insurance_en and clearly states the following: "During the public consultation a number of associations representing the electric bicycles industry called for an exclusion of such vehicles in the Directive itself, arguing that requiring third party liability insurance could undermine the uptake of electric bicycles. This is not considered necessary in light of the power of Member States to exempt electric bicycles or any other new electric motor vehicles. In that case, the national guarantee funds would bear the costs of reimbursing victims of accidents caused by these new types of vehicles" This means that if a certain state choses to not pass any laws regarding mandatory insurance for emtbs the state will reinburse the victims of accidents caused by emtbs. Guess what states will take that risk?

Sorry, Scotland actualy voted to remain in EU https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/United_Kingdom_EU_referendum_2016_area_results.svg

You do not have a law degree, right? New laws do not apply retrospective means that you will not be fined if you did not had an insurance before that, but if the law passes is mandatory to get an insurance even though you have purchased the emtb before.

VATs in Europe are around 20%. In US the sales tax is between 5 and 10%. So prices are pretty much the same as the US price does not includes the sales tax.

@xeren: I got my 2016 pair XM1501 29" for 346euros including shipping. The same wheels but 27.5" could be bought for 250euros. That is just the price of the rear 240s hub. Just have to search for deals.