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@29er1: not at all different tools

Asking that because you never rode both I'll never replace my moto for an ebike, nor shall I replace my Bike with an eBIKE. Horses for courses! PS: try a less powerfull moto, like 250cc 4t and compare to the most powerfull ebike presently M2S. Come and describe the difference

Battery consumption is directly related to the power and % assistance you use. Heavier weight? MORE POWER = MORE BATTERY CONSUMPTION Less rider Effort for same pace? MORE POWER = MORE BATTERY CONSUMPTION Long Climbs and Cumulative meter? MORE POWER = MORE BATTERY CONSUMPTION Faster Ride? MORE POWER = MORE BATTERY CONSUMPTION Sticky tires? MORE POWER = MORE BATTERY CONSUMPTION Low RPM pedaling? MORE TORQUE = MORE POWER = MORE BATTERY CONSUMPTION More range out of a Boscjh Smart System: - Less % assistance (-1, -2) - Turn Power Down (set the 4 selectable modes: 200W, 270W and 350W + full power) - Turn Torque Down (set the 4 selectable modes: 40Nm, 60Nm and 75Nm + full Torque) - Use Linear assistance mode (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo) Use lowest mode on flat terrain and DH. Go through the 3 modes to control your effort, and only use full power on emergency or in real need --> like very technical terrain

I'll Wait until they the deck! GOOD LUCK MONDRAKER

PS: Besides price being 5 digits, I'm still thinking, about the ebike I bought in 2024, and in less than a year, price dropped by almost 20% on the same model, no change to spec, nothing... I bought a Sherco300 2nd hand, and lost 15% of the bought value in 3 years! So, ebike manufacturers: Drop the prices, because, VALUE, is not near 5 digit price number!

5 digit price tag? Seriously? I can't see the value, not the sense if such... Enduro 300cc machines cost the same...

Who?

Alelluia! Stupid gadget as I always said! Thank you for confirming! For someone that doesn't lock the rear brake, and ride fast, never felt chain growth or pedal kick back, AND was very (VERY!!) skeptical about all this gadgets. Something that I'll wait confirmation: 1- Wide rims: Wider is not always better. Wide rims mute a lot the ride! I prefer my rim internal width in the 25mm (read EX471). Had 30s, 35s, and you feel the bike more slow. It's not fun, for someone that likes agile and nimble bike. 2- Low cockpit: It's unatural and since 98, I used 60ºx70mm+50mm handlebar and never went back! (BTW - 6ft rider) Presently using a ~80mm rise bar 3- Cassetes with dinner plate granny gear: Stop! We need some kind of reduction at the crank (SRAM, or HUB, and go back in time, bringing SG and SS RD back! No more destroyed RD, reduced contacts, etc... 4- Straight Seat tubes (77º or more) ! Just stop! You're making bikes LONGER than needed or cockpits while seated SHORT! 5- Bring back small, nimble wheels! or Just rise the BB, so that I can use 26' again in a modern geometry! And to complete: Presently the only limitation on BIKE+RIDER Combo, is RIDER ABILITY! RIDE MORE, LEARN, HAVE FUN!

Cheaper then their CRF? That will be interesting... Rumor: Shimano new motor EPx, won't chase power numbers.

@tacopop: go fuck yourself and your feelings!!!!!!!!!