2012 Magura Thor Fork - First Impressions

May 25, 2011 at 17:15
by Mike Levy  
With progressive geometry and components that can take an incredible amount of abuse, today's 150mm travel trail and all-mountain bikes are capable of feats that were once reserved for heavy downhill sleds. Suspension plays a vital role in allowing that to happen, but in no other category of bike does performance, stiffness and weight all walk such a fine line. With the exception of only a few options, aggressive trail riders who want to use a relatively light fork have long had to put up with flexible or under damped sliders, most being far better suited to pure cross-country use than charging difficult trails. With the evolution of the Thor, Magura set out to create a fork that would keep those gutsy riders happy, but without the unnecessary heft.


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Magura's 150mm travel Thor is designed to be a light, stiff and easy to understand fork that is aimed squarely at the high performance trail and all-mountain category

Magura Thor details:

- Intended use: Trail/all-mountain
- 150mm or 140mm options (adjustable internally as well)
- Adjustments: air spring pressure, rebound, DLO (Dynamic Lock Out+)
- 15mm Maxle thru-axle
- Lift Select travel adjustment on certain models
- 32mm stanchion tubes
- Uses updated bushings and grease lube
- Weight: 1675 grams (150mm fixed travel version)
- MSRP $899 - $938 USD
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The Thor's DLO (Dynamic Lock Out) system (left) greatly stiffens the fork for climbing, but still allows it to settle into its sag for a lower front end and more traction. This is accomplished by way of a very small free bleed port in the compression assembly. An air chart on the fork leg (right) makes for easy setup.



2012 Thor updates:


While the Thor is technically not a new fork for 2012, it has received enough internal updates that it should almost be considered so. With the stiff DAD (Dual Arch Design) lowers, the German company's suspension has always been known to be a great choice for aggressive riders, but their latest 140/150mm travel offering features an updated air spring and damping to match its sturdy chassis.

Air spring - A smaller air spring chamber helps the Thor to ramp up more progressively in its stroke. This will allow the user to run lower air pressure without the fork using too much of its travel when pushed hard. The real benefit to this is that the lower air pressure should add some much needed small bump compliance to the Thor's performance.

Compression valving - In order to appease aggressive trail and all-mountain riders the Thor's compression valving has been significantly beefed up to help keep the fork calmer and higher in its travel. The added low speed compression damping promises to help keep the fork high in its travel when on the brakes or nosing into a steep section.

New bushings and grease lube - Magura has also made the switch from a thinner, oil based lube system to a using their new proprietary grease. Slotted bushings are no longer needed (the slots allowed the lubrication oil to cycle easier in the lowers), making for more bushing contact, which should also increase fork stiffness. The new bushings are also said to be slicker than what has been used in the past.

More travel - Travel has been bumped up to 150mm, although a 140mm option is available as well (travel can also be adjusted internally)


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There is no need to reinvent the wheel. Magura borrows the well known 15mm Maxle system to allow quick wheel removal and installation on their Thor fork.


Many of us have been programmed to believe that the more adjustments a fork or shock has, the better it must perform. You'll have to forget that nonsense when giving the Thor a go. You'll find only two external adjustments on the fork: air spring pressure and rebound damping (certain models also include their Lift Select travel adjustment), as well as the DLO lock out climbing aid. Magura purposely avoided loading up the Thor with knobs, believing that having a simple to understand fork is key to it performing well:
bigquotesThe main concept of all Magura forks, including the Thor, is to have stiff, light and easy forks. Stiff by the DAD (Double Arch Design of the lowers), which gives great steering performance. Light by using magnesium, aluminum and finite element analysis. Easy to maintain, service and set up. We feel that this easiness is missing on many other forks on the market, mainly on the setup. The correct setup is crucial for a good performing fork. The easier it is, the less mistakes and mis-adjustments can be made, and the better and faster the fork will perform correctly, in order to shred it on the trail and not in your garage. But this easiness also offers a well thought out, overall design. Magura forks are not fighting with intimidating knobs, but with concentrating on performance. - Stefan Pahl, Magura engineer


How's that for refreshing? The Thor, as well as all of Magura's forks, can also be easily rebuilt at home by a competent mechanic instead of it being sent off to a service center. The job only requires four common tools: a hex key, torx wrench, snap ring pliers and a socket wrench, making oil changes and rebuilds an easy task. And because the damping oil is contained within the stanchion tube (the stanchion acts as a sealed cartridge), the lowers can be removed for cleaning and to add lubrication grease without having to rebuild the entire fork.


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The yellow Magura van (top) spends the vast majority of its life on the road, loaded down and traveling to events and dealers all over the country. Magura's resident suspension guru, Stefan Pahl (bottom right), helped get the setup dialed on the bikes throughout our time there, as well as making a mean potato and bacon dish that had us all well past being full.
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The Sedona terrain is nothing like B.C.'s dark and loamy rain forests. Trails cover miles and miles, snaking around and up mesas (left) and you always seem to have an incredible view, no matter where you are. Amazing home cooked meals of steak, salmon and philly cheese steak sandwiches, not to mention copious amounts of Clif Bar products, kept us all rolling and enjoying what the trails had to offer.



Early riding impressions: Initial setup couldn't get any easier: scope out the suggested air pressure for your weight (I ended up about 10psi higher than recommended after some experimenting) and then decide on the appropriate amount of rebound damping. That's it, you're ready to hit the trail. Given its relative lack of external knobs to turn it would be easy to lump the 2012 Thor into the same category of some other less adjustable, and somewhat less performance orientated forks, but that isn't the case. In fact, after some trail time on the Thor I'm of the opinion that it is actually more capable under an aggressive rider than many other trail forks that I've spent time on - and this is without any internal alterations that some of the competition requires before being ready to be pushed hard.


Riding the Thor in Sedona, Arizona:
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Sedona's terrain, and especially the Highline and Hangover trails that we spent a lot of time on, feature a mixture of different surfaces that present quite a challenge to a bike's suspension; everything from non-stop rocky ledges and fast, repetitive hits, to steep chutes and hard g-outs that will push any 5" travel bike to its limits when ridden at speed. Coincidentally, or perhaps not, this is the very terrain where the Thor excels. It didn't take long to see that the German fork named after the God of Thunder is perhaps the most torsionally precise trail fork that I've spent time on. Steering was instant, with no delay or lag that you can sometimes expect when pushing a sub 4lb, 15mm thru-axle equipped fork hard on technical terrain. I was so impressed that, had it been a blind test, I would have guessed that I had a much heavier and robust fork on the front of the bike.

Further helping the Thor excel in Sedona was its excellent low speed compression damping that worked wonders in keeping the fork high in its travel while I was making my way down the area's steep pitches. This helped to leave more travel available to tackle the rough surface or hard compression at the bottom of the chute, and possibly even helped to save my ass on more than one occasion. Having spent time on last year's Thor it was also apparent that the reworked air chamber has helped to make the fork's stroke more progressive than in the past, which will also be a benefit to those who turn a blind eye to the fact that their 5" travel trail bike isn't a downhill rig.


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Magura claims that their unique Dual Arch Design (DAD)greatly reduces torsional flex. After spending time on the past three generations of the Thor fork, I'd tend to agree with them.


The Thor impressed me, but it still could be better in a few places. The fork's DLO lock out system worked as advertised, letting the it sag into its travel while still remaining firm, but the dial is quite stiff and hard to turn when on the go. I would like to see less effort required to rotate the knob, or possibly a more tactile shape to make it easier to grip. I also didn't find the Thor to be overly sensitive to smaller trail chatter, despite the fork's updated bushings and new grease lubrication, although my test model had very little time on it before being put through its paces and wasn't broken in by any stretch of the imagination.





Magura also had their impressive new MT-8 brakes fitted to our test bikes. You can check out Richard Cunningham's review of these impressive stoppers for the full story, but I was also impressed with how they performed during my time in Sedona. Power in spades, appreciable modulation and a great feel at the lever make these new brakes top performers in my mind.

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Their MT-8 brakes use a master cylinder made entirely from carbon fiber, a first in the mountain bike industry. Magura calls the proprietary material Carbotecture SL, and it is composed of a mid length carbon fiber and special thermoplastic matrix. Magura's manufacturing process controls the carbon's fiber orientation as the component is being molded to both increase strength and create smooth sealing surfaces. The master cylinder exits the mold in its finished shape - no machining or sanding is done.
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The MT-8 uses both a carbon lever blade and carbon bar clamp. The final product weighs an impressive 278 grams, including rotor and all hardware.


Pinkbike's take: If it sounds like I'm excited about the Thor, it's because I am. Aggressive trail riders have long had to put up with light, but wimpy and under damped trail forks that seem to all be valved for cruising the local bike path, not pushing your limits on your trail bike. In its stock form, without adding heavier weight oil or reducing the air volume, the Thor has proved to be possibly the most composed trail fork currently available, and it doesn't hurt that the total package comes in at under 4lbs. Their MT-8 brakes not only look stunning, but also have the performance to match.


Check out the Magura website to see their entire lineup.

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60 Comments
  • 41 1
 Fork looks great, and light but why they had to use that 15mm garbage? Everyone should boycott 15mm forks so they switch back to 20mm everything. Bottom line is nobody cares about saving 2 ounces, rather have a beefy 20mmm.
  • 14 1
 I agree, there is no so big gain in weight or anything that would actually mean anything, so why not just use the 9mm and the 20mm axles. That 15mm option is invented only to make people buy the specific hubs and stuff...
  • 7 0
 The older Thors had 20mm. Seems to me its a step back and a concession to weight weenies to go back to 15mm
  • 3 4
 loving the two arch design but i reckon they could have put some more travel on to them
  • 2 0
 I do mostly agree with those thoughts - there really is nothing wrong with a 20mm axle and over time I'm sure it could be as light as a 15mm setup, despite the larger bearings. Having said that, this 15mm thru-axle Thor felt every bit as stiff as some of the 20mm axle forks I've been on...
  • 48 2
 Awwwww, you guys shouldn't bash 15mm axles. Just look at all the wonderful benefits of using a 15mm axle:

1) They are soooo much lighter that they'll make you go 32 MPH faster on the UPHILLS.
2) They will mandatorily make you buy new wheels (from the guys that make the axles of course).
3) You can still ride your 20mm hubs with 15mm axles if you're a clown.
4) It makes you sooooo cool because you have the latest and greatest bling.
5) 15mm is smaller than 20mm so it MUST be stronger.
6) We love to have new "standards" about every other month. Keeps us full of happiness while keeping our wallets empty.
7) Rear hubs are now 142mm, they just HAD to change the front axle too.
8 ) Since Specialized had their very short lived 25mm front axle, they want to prove they can make 15mm axles live for an even shorter amount of time.
9) 15mm axles are the next step towards creating 13.284641mm axles.
10) Last but not least, sarchasm is golden.
  • 2 1
 I LOL'd..thanks,that was pretty funny
  • 4 0
 Shirley you can't be serious!!!
  • 4 1
 LOL!

but kidding aside, they (fox-shimano) had to make the 15mm thru-axle because it was the only way XC/trail folks would switch over to using a beefier/stiffer standard. the moment XC/trail folks would find out that the same 20mm hubs used on FR and DH bikes will be used for XC/trail/AM, they won't be willing to adopt that standard. they'd rather stick with a 9mm on an AM bike rather than a 20mm. i am saying this because i came from an XC background and i am one of those people who are happy to see the 15mm standard come to life. i am also saying this because i have tried both a 20mm and 9mm on my AM bike. for all you guys know, we should be ditching the 9mm instead of the 15mm. 9mm at the back is still fine though for XC and trail bikes but at the front, the MTB world should forget about the 9mm standard but that's just me.
  • 8 0
 >runkmaster
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley!!!!!
  • 1 1
 Before 15mm came along, DT made SC forks with 20mm thru-axles, even carbon versions. People bought them thinking they were a good enough for a light FR/DH fork, but when they broke complained "It was a 20mm thru axle, therefore it should be strong enough for DH!"

So when it came along, DT jumped on the 15mm wagon quick smart.

15mm signals intention - not some conspiracy.
  • 1 1
 Its kind of funny that the seals in the fork picture above are already leaking. That's sings of things to come. I work in the returns department for a giant online store and I have never seen so many forks sent back with warranty issues. They never cover they products, Magura forks are a BIG waste of money if you ask me.
  • 1 0
 I've been wondering if in theory you could machine a shim for say a 20mm hub to fit a 15mm axle?
  • 2 0
 @ASPOCKALIPS801 - Not so much... The fork pictured had never been ridden. What you're seeing is some grease from the initial assembly.
  • 1 0
 king-benji They have adaptor cups you can find them on line - but you'd need the fork to wok with the 15mm.
  • 1 0
 Oh my bad, still won't spend the money on them. But if anyone that rides them likes them, then cool with me. Just not my cup of tea I enjoy a Red Bull.
  • 1 0
 @ neimbc I'm aware they have adaptors however what i was thinking, which isn't entirely relevant to my original question, is converting a 20mm hub to say a 14mm bolt axle or 10mm using a shim on the axle sitting within the 20mm hub. The thing is i can get an adaptor to QR but they're hard to come across as Hope bulbs are now out of production but also the bolted axle would be far stronger.
  • 16 1
 id love to give these a try, seems like if there not fox/rock shox they tend to not get a 2nd glance.
  • 7 0
 True, mainstream stuff isn't always the best, yet Magura stuff isn't also the cheapest. The new Thor nad MT8 look nice.
  • 1 2
 This mortal body grows weak, I require sustenance!
  • 3 12
flag jamesbigjumps (May 26, 2011 at 7:15) (Below Threshold)
 Im sure they are a really nice fork but does the double crown not look really bad...
  • 9 0
 well, these don't have a double crown so I'm assuming you mean dual arches. If they keeps the fork nice and stiff, who cares what the arches look like?
  • 4 0
 @jamesbigjumps - Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I've got to say that I'm a fan of how the fork looks. Then again, I am a firm believer in form following function.
  • 8 0
 I would really love to see this Dual Arch Design (DAD) on all of the dual crown downhill forks nowadays Razz
  • 3 0
 The Thor forks look and sound like they are a heaven sent gift for AM riders. I'd love to try em out. My only objection is all the acronyms used in the description.
  • 1 0
 I wish the DB mission had come with those. The Fox Float RL 150 was flexy and either diving or too stiff with no happy medium. I guess the Thor would have brought up the price, but not by more than a couple hundred bucks. I've already moved on to a heavy cheap fork to get my needs met though. Maybe if I decide I'd rather have less weight than more travel I'll come back to a Thor. For now the domain suits my style and budget and when I weight reduce I'll get a Lyrik.
  • 1 0
 Mike - speaking of the Fox 150; you said "Further helping the Thor excel in Sedona was its excellent low speed compression damping". Is the Thor better damped than the Fox 150?
  • 4 0
 Stiffer both front to back and torsionally, as well as much more LSC and a more progressive stroke than the Fox. The 32 is under damped in my opinion, forcing you to run too much air pressure which greatly handicaps the fork.
  • 1 0
 My Fox is the same way. It is a TALAS RLC and I just put in a bit more air. Not ideal but what it is.
  • 1 0
 that trail in the vid looked really fun and challenging. I would get so confused getting smacked every few feet by a tree or cactus and roll down the side haha. Very nice review. Its good to see the competition coming out with such nice products.
  • 1 0
 The more competition, the better! The trail in the video is called Highline, and as usual the video doesn't do it justice. It was steeper and rougher than it looked!
  • 2 1
 15mm is not needed - if it's aimed "squarely" at the AM hard core trail guys - we love beef! 20mm and while you're at it - you can pump up the travel to 160 +. Lowering the price is bonus too - I don't mind taking you out to lunch, but I don't want you ordering a lobster/steak platter either!
  • 3 2
 Wow...
I love all the ignorance from gravity riders (of which I am one) about just how useful the 15QR axle is...
I'll only silence one of the ignorant arguments that people are putting forth:
"You will have to buy new wheels now!"
Um. No.
That's what axle adapters are for, and I ride with a man that uses Azonic Outlaw wheels (as do I) with a new Fox fork with 15QR, and all it took was $12.
Let's just agree to disagree here, but don't be bigoted. LOL
  • 1 1
 I love the idea of a light AM fork with 150mm travel.

However I would only buy a coil fork with a 20mm axle, 15mm axle for AM=LAME! It's OK to replace 9mm for XC with 15mm, but really...putting them on an AM fork is beyond tolerable.

I think manufacturers should lighten up their coil forks with carbon/Kevlar or titanium coils instead, I just don't like the complications and feel of air.
  • 1 0
 One question: How was the tire clearance? This is often omitted in fork reviews but it's quite an important bit of information for those of us that like balloon-like tires (e.g. Trail King 2.4)
  • 1 0
 I neglected to measure the clearance, but it looks like it would easily fit a 2.4" tire.
  • 1 0
 I rode with the fat 2.4 Trail Kings (UST and non UST) and they fit just fine, with plenty of clearance.
  • 1 0
 fort theyd use a different axle rather than a rockshox? surely there trying to persuade people to use them rather than rock shox
  • 5 1
 but why spend time and money developing an axle when you can use someone else's?
  • 2 4
 They should do their own because Maxle is simply an unreliable shyte? A great excuse to sell spare ones as it is easy to damage the thread? Only the one on Boxxer is good.

I am longing after days when I had 4x4mm and 6mm on my 66... If someone doesn't carry 4, 5, and 6mm allens in the backpack, but carries tube and hand pump, then finds it problematic to unscrew 5 bolts after puncturing, then my advice is to change the hobby... unfortunately current trend is "idiot spawning solutions" a.k.a "idiot proof solutions" a.k.a "tool free".
  • 1 0
 Yeah i see your point WAKIdesigns, i don' know what was the problem with the bolts, for me its absolutely normal that I carry an allen set with me all the time.... and it takes only a few minutes to unscrew 4-6 bolts. Yeah it's not so fancy and "modern" but it's simple as it can be and it's reliable!
  • 4 0
 I get where you are coming from with the use of the maxle WAKI, but I do not like the extra work of unbolting my axle to change a flat on the trail. However I do think there are better QR 20mm axles out there such as the Marz ones that they could have used. Although I do enjoy my 12mm maxle on the rear of my Reign X
  • 3 0
 i have had a totem and the domain and both maxle systems never let me down.... i like the maxle system.
  • 1 0
 Punctures are not the only time you need to remove a front wheel. Transporting my bike is when i am removing the front wheel more often than any other time. I find the maxle to be very reliable. Its also faster and easier to use than any old 9mm qr of the past.
  • 1 0
 I guess it is just me then Wink everytime I have to remove my front wheel from Lyrik, I'm swearing like a pig. Putting it on is the pain actualy
  • 1 0
 why go thru all the bother of designing forks then go put a competitors maxle on it,???
  • 1 0
 if you ask me, if it was possible to fit the RS U-Turn assembly into older Marzocchi 66, then I would never buy Lyrik...
  • 3 0
 @l2wto - I know that there are some mixed reviews of the Maxle system on here but I've had nothing but good experiences with it. I give Magura props for realizing that it makes more sense to use RS's system instead of designing their own. Many bikes, and even some forks, now use the Syntace axle design as well.
  • 3 0
 all of a sudden, i need new forks that much more...
  • 1 0
 Nice fork besides the 15mm maxel. Besides the fork did anyone else notice the sissy jump off his xc bike to walk it down part of the trail lol. What a woman.
  • 1 0
 The guy on the hardtail was actually killing it up until that point. The vid doesn't do that part of the trail justice, it gets quite steep and rough where he got off, enough so that the majority of our group didn't ride it on their 5" travel full suspension bikes and I wasn't sure that I would get through it.
  • 1 0
 Well at least the guy wasnt on a dh bike lol. Looks like a pretty rad trail.
  • 2 0
 Thanks, I'm now seriously considering this fork. Hangover trail rocks.
  • 1 0
 how much is it? if its similarly priced to a fox 150mm with RLC on it, i'd just get a fox.
  • 1 0
 MSRP $899 - $938 USD
  • 1 0
 wow. its at fox's price range. well, that makes the decision making easier. thanks mike!
www.jensonusa.com/store/product/FK259A00-Fox+32+Talas+150+Rlc+Fit+Fork+12.aspx
  • 1 0
 sick fork! with a cool name!
  • 1 0
 maybe that fork is immortal?
  • 1 0
 wow theyre light! o.0
  • 1 0
 Nice fork







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