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@Arierep: thats the only thing i care about i wouldnt buy this bike either way, price and performance are funny at best - but id want to know if a hidden shock means longer service intervals. my shock and fork get a lot of grit each ride and honestly performs best 10-20h service intervals (which i dont do ;) to be fair this depends a lot on the design too, some shock placements are better than others.

the flat spoke area feels like.. less strong for more weight to me. the way forces distribution in the rim ... either im stupid, or WAO is doing weird stuff :)

especially if you're going to pay 14k for it.

+1 wolf tooth LE lever with one up. the one up isnt as nice as the fox but its easy to maintain. when the fox craps out its a big deal to fix or send back. I can service the oneup every ride if i wanted (but rly more like every 50-100hr and thats just because i like it butter smooth). For the fork it sounds more like that someone has the upgraditis ;) sometimes the upgrade is "better" but you can't tune it to be better anyway. I'd only upgrade if have a reason to, not just "to upgrade" because what you consider upgrading is just spending money, not necessarily making your ride better at the end of the day. I think i'd reserve these upgrades for fork that are getting pretty old, where newer dampers make a real difference - in your case, perhaps some, but its hard to say.

@isaacisaac: yeah i guess they just dont want you to buy the frame

pretty sure some wont get it because its not expensive enough lol

@hughbm: if people buy theres no reason for prices to go down. prices aren't based on the minimum possible to serve customers. its based on whatever customers are willing to pay. Honestly though, given the state of the used market and so on, a 8k+ bike like this .. i predict.. will not sell and they'll have to figure something out.

@bananowy: which specific bike are you thinking about? (or just one you'd pick)

honestly, 4k for a great build, not really heavy.. yeh i dont rly care about the headset routing. this is a well priced bike in this market.