Blackspire's Stinger dual ring guide is a simple, bolt on solution for riders who want the versatility of two chain rings without the hassle of losing a chain on rough terrain. The simple guide is available in a number of different mounting options, from ISCG, ISCG-05, BB mount, and even a model that is made to fit BMX bikes. The model reviewed here is the Stinger E, with the "E" referring to the mounting tabs for a Shimano E-type front derailleur. The 90 gram guide is available in anodized black, with rollers coming in black, pink, green, blue, purple, orange, and gold. They retail from $29.95 USD (
non-E type model) to $49.95 USD for the Stinger E shown here.
The Stinger E employs a stepped lower roller for chain retention, along with mounting tabs for a Shimano E-typer front derailleur. The total package weighs just 90 grams.
Blackspire Stinger E details:
- Dual ring chain guide
- recommended use: AM/FR
- ISCG, ISCG-05, BB mounting options
- Uses a stepped roller for chain tension
- Fits up to 40 tooth chain rings
- Compatible with most bash guards
- Weight: 90 grams
- MSRP $49.95 USD (Stinger E), $29.95 USD (standard model)
The details Blackspire designed the Stinger to be as straightforward as possible. The aluminum backplate doesn't utilize any gram saving cutouts or extreme shaping, just simple and flat construction that gets the job done. Countersunk openings are used for the guide's ISCG tab mounting hardware, along with the short extension to accomodate the E-Type front derailleur.
Chain guides don't get much simpler than the Stinger's simple aluminum backplate and single stepped roller.
While some dual ring guides make used of a thinner lower roller that slides on a post, following the chain from ring to ring as you shift, or a even a twin roller system, the Stinger employs a single roller with a stepped shape. The molded roller's inner diameter is slightly larger, adding all important chain tension when the in the small ring, combined with smaller diameter channel for the chain to run in when in the big ring. The roller spins on two sealed bearings, and is held in place with non-captive hardware. There is enough vertical adjustment to allow for it to work with chain rings up to 40 teeth, an important fact for many 2 x 10 drivetrains.
PerformanceThe Stinger should receive an award for being its easy “plug and play” installation. There are only two main elements; the backplate and the lower roller (
and just nine if you count the roller and mounting hardware), making the Stinger quite simple to get running properly. Spacing was a non-issue, the only real adjustments required are to set the roller height - via the vertical slot, and roller angle by rotating the guide on its ISCG mounting holes. Our model also requires mounting the E-type front derailleur to the top of the guide, another simple procedure. They say that a three year old can figure out how to use the iPad because it’s so intuitive; well, we think that same kid could install this chain guide in about five minutes. The Blackspire guys probably also believe this because it unfortunately ships without any instructions.
The Stinger E works quite well out on the hill, adding enough chain tension to cut down on noise (
although not as much as a proper single ring guide) from chain slap, but also keep it from jumping off the ring when passing over rough terrain. We never once completely lost a chain after installing the Stinger E, although the chain would still jump from the big to the small ring on occasion. This happened far less often than without the Stinger E installed, and it did prevent the chain from coming off the rings all together and becoming lodged around the bottom bracket shell. Shifting performance didn't seem to be affected whatsoever, with the extra chain tension provided by the lower roller having zero affect on how fast the chain moved from ring to ring.
Blackspire uses quite a hard rubber compound for the roller in order to keep durability high, a trait that is helped by the smooth running bearings that last nearly a full season of use with zero attention. We were concerned about the sealed bearing's exposed sides, but it turned out to not be an issue and is likely a better design than if there were protective caps that might also trap water and grime underneath. Added drag was present, but minimal. It can be just be felt when pedalling in reverse by hand when the bike is in the stand, and we doubt that any rider will be concerned about lost watts with the Stinger installed.
Pinkbike's take: | While it's quite understandable that aesthetics can demand a handsome price (and sometimes that can be justified), there's always a place for parts like the Stinger. It uses a smart and sensible design that gets the job done, and given how well it performs, you can't beat it when talking about bang for your buck. Two chain rings and having trouble keeping your chain on? This is likely the best $49.95 USD that you'll spend anytime soon.- Qwan Pham |
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Maybe, maybe not. I had to track down a plastic guide to route an open cable from the bottom bracket to the front derailleur from cannondale. There needs to be an attachment point on the frame somewhere for the cable to pull on the derailleur from, you can't just mount it to the front mech. If anyone has any questions about it I can post a photo of what I had to do to run a 2x10, maybe it will work for you. Just message me
Only problem I ever heard of would be that the backplate of the Superstar "version" is actually thicker then the stated 2.5mm, causing problems for some people. My bet would be, if you're unsure about this fact, go Blackspire.
About the roller: if you know someone who does inline skating or skateboarding, you can easily change bearings if you have a spare one around. Mine runs even smoother then it used to now that I fitted abec3 bearings.
I think I'll buy another one just to have when everyone buys the new derailleurs and these go on sale for $15
superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=56&products_id=336
If you change the roller to Blackspire's, you'll beat it!
I suppose ISCG 05 mount!?
RIght?
Thanks in advance :-)
Here's what is spec'ed on their slayer 70 "Gearing (FR) Shimano SLX E Mount"
ISCG 05, ISCG or BB mount
I know it is not BB mount..
So ISCG 05 or ISCG... it's about the fitting ISCG is smaller than ISCG 05 and ISCG 05 was introduced 2005
Thats all I found out :-/
Even the rocky mountain website didn't help me out...
"Lightweight RaceFace Turbine cranks with bashguard let you ride over obstacles, and an ISCG05-mounted inner guide prevents chain suck"
also watch this video: www.pinkbike.com/video/132507 -- at 1:57 he says the E-type FD mounts to the rear swing arm, I'm not sure without looking but you might check if the FD moves independent of the BB. It probably shouldn't. and based on what I see, it mounts nicely to the frame. You'd just want to see if the backplate will clear if you mount the guide on. Maybe a email to Blackspire would be the way to go.
I will write them an E-Mail
Let's see how long it will take to get a response!
The Rocky Mountain Slayer 2011 has an ISCG mount :-)
The E-type construction won't work on the bike either
so take the one without the e-type
You will be still able to use it with two chainrings
So who needs the e-type anyway?
I really don't know
What do you do now instead?
*Being modest