More Tech Randoms - Fort William World Cup 2024

May 2, 2024
by Pinkbike Staff  
Purple Hayes in the Atherton pits
Purple Hayes Dominion brakes in the Atherton pits

Amaury Pierron s Commencal with different thin chain stays and removable bridge
Another look at Amaury Pierron's Commencal. In the team's quest to find the optimum level of stiffness they're experimenting with different chainstay thicknesses, and also have a removable bridge.

Forbidden Supernaught
Connor Fearon's Forbidden Supernaught

Connor Fearon s steering damper
Fearon's is running the new Pademelon steering damper. Located in Tasmania, Pademelon is the project of Jeremiah Boobar. It's based on the Hopey steering damper design, although there have been some changes that will be revealed when the system officially launches.

A lot going on here
Pivot's lugged carbon prototype waiting for its wheels.

Multiple chains and multiple pivots
Two chains, many pivots.

Yeti Special Projects DH bike
Yeti's Special Projects DH bike. It still doesn't sound like there are plans to release it to the public any time soon, but it sure does look nice...

Mick Hannah is here racing his first WC since retiring in 2021
Mick Hannah is here racing his first World Cup since retiring in 2021.

We Are One DH prototype
We Are One's Canadian-made DH prototype.

Lots of gold going on at Fox for their 50th anniversary
Lots of gold going on at Fox for their 50th anniversary.

Reece Wilson s Scottish blue Boxxer
Reece Wilson's Scottish blue Boxxer - even the axle has been anodized blue.

Custom painted Giant Glory
A custom painted Giant Glory for Remi Thirion.

Remi Thirion s steering damper
Remi Thirion's is also running a Pademelon steering damper

Dak Norton - Yoshimura pedals
Dakotah Norton is running prototype clipless pedals from Yoshimura. He's been very involved in the development process, trying various designs to find the one that suits his preferences.

Vali Holl with gold and white Boxxer and Flight Attendant
Vali Holl's white and gold Boxxer has been attracting plenty of attention - here it is with RockShox's Flight Attendant system waiting for a battery.

Vali Holl s flight attendant shock
The shock also has Flight Attendant - the system can automatically adjust the compression damping level of the fork and shock, firming them up for smoother sections and softening them for the rougher bits.


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  • 105 2
 Yeti's bike looks more polished and production ready then some companies' showroom models. Super interesting to see that they've gone to a multi-link, variable position, high-pivot, horst link for DH applications...
  • 14 1
 Is it not a 6 bar?
  • 15 0
 @Jvhowube: isn’t it a similar linkage to their e-bike, just with all the bits in a tunnel instead of outside?
  • 6 1
 I came here to say the same thing. Moreover, despite many reasons for me not purchasing a Yeti (geometry, price, etc.), they almost always look very attractive. I’m not sure if it’s the simplicity of shapes or what (maybe someone with a design background could offer their opinion).
  • 7 1
 yeah, looks carbon. That's super expensive to setup. I can't imagine they won't be selling that frame.
  • 10 0
 And how beefy does it look as well!! As someone else has noted, they always make damn good looking bikes!
  • 2 0
 but the FL question is Rude racing or not? some ppl say yes other not... please solve this drama of FL is on my pick.
  • 8 0
 Is it just me or is the chain resting on the chain slap padding?
  • 1 0
 ..
  • 6 0
 @gmiller720: probably doesn't rub under sag
  • 1 0
 @PauRexs: he’s not racing Ft William, he’s not on the start list.
  • 1 0
 @adamstraus: what a shame.
  • 1 2
 @mosierman: wouldn’t it rub more?
  • 1 0
 agreed!! lets warner it as it's world cup and shout that its "smoooooooooover than chip shop lino"
  • 98 6
 I just can't get on board with Fox's gold color. I'm trying, but it just looks cheap to me. Like a 1980 Pontiac TransAm in black with the big gold eagle on the hood that eventually cracks and looks like shit. I know, color has nothing to do with performance, but it just turns me off.
  • 7 2
 I agree. Not into the black crown, kashima stanchions, and gold lowers. Would have been cooler to do a gold crown, black stanchions, and gold lowers in my opinion.
  • 30 0
 How dare you speak like that about the Bandit's car? Smokey would scoff at you.
  • 7 1
 I like it even more now that it's been compared to a Pontiac TransAm. Cut the sleeves of them tshirts, grab a sixer of Schlitz, do a smokey burnout and let the good times roll!
  • 2 0
 @kmo344: I can't get that image out of my head, now I want one that way. Lol. They better listen to your suggestion!
  • 6 0
 @kmo344: Does any one remember CHiPs and Erik Estrada?!... Personally I liked the orange stanchions. Maybe I'm remembering "the General"! YeeeHah!!!
  • 7 1
 I mean, they insulted our eyes with that horrible orange lowers for the last few years so gold almost looks great if it wasn't some Rockshox Mag21 and Psylo copycat but maybe next year they will come up with something not looking terrible, we can hope.
  • 4 0
 So no one is tired of the orange yet ?
  • 3 0
 Sometimes, baby poop comes exactly in that hue.
  • 4 0
 50 shades of kashima
  • 2 0
 @AppleJack76: Good one! I think you’re right too.
  • 1 0
 @imbiker: Nope. In fact I’d gladly trade my black 38’s for an orange set. Any takers?
  • 2 0
 marketing genius is about to play kashima lowers reduce drag whilst their new black coating is more resilient to damage - cue the role reversal and sales pitch
  • 1 0
 I feel like Fox has been trolling us on colors for years now
  • 39 0
 That Supernaught looks naughty!
  • 12 1
 Naughty naughty, very naughty ha ha ha ha...
  • 3 0
 Super naughty
  • 8 0
 @bat-fastard: Got any veras? Laaarvly.
  • 3 8
flag Binderclip FL (May 2, 2024 at 16:20) (Below Threshold)
 Looks great.

Not sure naming a race bike "super nothing" is great though...
  • 1 0
 @Binderclip: Sounds sick tho that's all that matters
  • 1 0
 @Binderclip: haha yeah! Think they picked the wrong part of dreadnought for the name. Ie dread nothing becomes super nothing!
Superdread would've been better.

Also is it a typo as its the Forbidden Dreadnought (like the battleship) so shouldn't it be Supernought?
  • 2 0
 @watchmen: Got any Salmon?
  • 2 0
 @korev: sorted...
  • 37 5
 Going to be a lot of eyes on that Pivot frame after "the incident".
  • 6 1
 wonder if anybody is having trust/commitment issues?
  • 81 2
 There's been an incident in my damn pants after looking at that sweet ass bike
  • 15 0
 @JLantz: woah Nellie! Cleanup on isle three.
  • 16 0
 @Struggleteam: If there's one thing Bernard doesn't lack, it's commitment. I'm confident he'll be ripping as hard as ever to get that win so he can finally retire.
  • 6 0
 @JLantz: THIS^^ Of all the "erector set" looking lugged assembly bikes I've ever seen this is the best looking by far! And funny that's they didn't try and hide//blend in the metal bits...
  • 3 0
 The way the top and downtube join parallelly is always gonna look sketchy
  • 4 0
 @stiingya: This has a distinct GT STS Lobo feel to it and that was a great-looking bike!
  • 3 0
 Looks like they are using the silver sharpie trick for visual reference when those tubes start to pull out of the lug again.
  • 4 0
 @ridedigrepeat: If there's one thing Bernard doesn't lack, it's commitment.

I conKerr
  • 3 1
 @fjm35: best looking bike ever.
  • 30 2
 Honest question. Remember when Evil almost went under a few years ago because of frame issues, but people with cracking Commencal frames are all like, "haha yeah, mine did it too." And they still keep selling out. Why is it so different?
  • 22 0
 Probably cost. The evil revolt was 15 years ago now (I know I know, I feel old too) and it was as expensive as any other premium dh frame at the time, and I imagine they didn't shift massive numbers, Vs commencal which are direct sales and cheap for the spec, so I know I see loads of them (anecdotal I know) and most don't snap, it's like Kona Stinky's from the mid to late 00s, there were that many of them about that they got a reputation for snapping when really most were tanks that just kept going. Same with canyon, they've got a durability issue on some models, yt had the capra head tube issues, most companies have an issue at some point, but it's how they deal with them/how well they can ride it out, evil were a relatively new brand back to the market, (obviously they'd been a big name 10 years earlier but faded away a little) and might not have had the capital to properly take the hit while designing and producing a new bike (the undead, carbon form a new supplier which supposedly sorted the durability issues, but at the time people were even more wary of carbon so redesigning a bike known for snapping in a material people thought would snap didn't equate to massive sales).
  • 16 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: plus Evil are dicks about it, presumably Commercial aren’t.
  • 6 0
 Probably #'s somewhere. Evil might not be as big as Commencal, but we're talking DH bikes here - not many get sold by most brands.

But with Evil, didn't basically every single Revolt end up cracking? I mean there was a whole container of them that was pretty much only good for scrap aluminum. I had a friend that didn't even ride his many times (talking like 20 probably...) and even it cracked.
  • 5 2
 Evils still break all the time judging from YouTube videos and the multiple comments attached. Seems like the warranty is good though and the bikes ride great so people do by them. Maybe commencal is similar
  • 8 0
 Evil denied the issue for a long time, refused warranties, left people out to dry, etc.. Commencal warranties pretty quickly with little to no questions asked.
  • 3 10
flag nicoenduro (May 2, 2024 at 23:09) (Below Threshold)
 Cause Evil bikes are sick and people love to talk shit about them Seems Commencal is uneffected by that
  • 27 0
 Mick Hannah is really bad at retiring
  • 34 9
 Have Pivot made sure the glue on their aluminium lugs works now? You can't be too Kerrful...
  • 31 3
 stop with that noncesense
  • 2 3
 Maybe they can glue in a euro BB instead of the stupid pressfit design too.....
  • 3 0
 @markb2392: finally someone mentioning it...
  • 25 3
 That black/silver/gold Pivot looks so good.
  • 4 0
 Came here to say the same. Dream machine.
  • 3 0
 For now...
  • 4 0
 Hopefully the front doesn’t fall off
  • 15 1
 Purple Hayes all in my brain…

Lately, things just don't seem the same
Actin' funny but I don't know why
'Scuse me while I kiss the sky
  • 1 0
 You squeeze the front lever on an A4 too hard and you shall indeed kiss the sky
  • 13 2
 The Supernaught is fucking on point. And I have a strong disdain for Trek as a brand, however their custom paint jobs are always impeccable.
  • 7 0
 That We Are One proto looks wicked fast and sci fi. Yep, it's not a finished product and what not, but man, it just somehow gets me more excited than any of the polished stuff.
  • 4 0
 Saw that frame at Sea Otter, just couldn't stop checking it out...
  • 9 0
 Does anyone else think We Are One should name their beautiful machine 'The Departure'?
  • 3 0
 ...then you can SEND it!!
  • 5 0
 Wonder if that Pademelon steering damper has return to center dampening like some of the moto stabilizers? That's the most moto like setup i have seen to date. Return to center dampening was a game changer when racing harescrambles and enduro. Would make a alot of sense for DH if you clip a tree or a stupid course pillow. Could prevent a hugie.
  • 2 0
 I thought I remember hearing Jack Moir say there's no resistance back to center. He's running one this year and was testing it recently on some of his YouTube videos and was talking about it.
  • 3 0
 Do you know a universal one easily available which returns to neutral (like the KIS from canyon) by chance? I haven’t found anything interesting.
My gf suffered from a stroke last year and we start planning on having her back on a mtb, I was thinking that a steerer damper could be really helpful for her condition
  • 1 0
 I loved my Hopey dampener back in the day. I was 3-5 seconds faster with it on most courses, with way less arm fatigue. The time advantage and arm fatigue went away when I got my first 820mm bars so I stopped using it. Tracks have gotten rougher, speeds have increased and wheels have gotten bigger since then. I would love to see the time saved or fatigue saved with the new dampener.
  • 7 0
 Also,is that Jeremiah Boobar of the Truvativ Boobar handlebar?
I had one of those,it was great.
  • 1 0
 I've run Scotts for years and experimented with the Precision damper for a couple years - all good dirt damper these days have no or reduced damping returning to center. It's a dirt bike so maybe not exactly the same requirements as a DH MTB, but intuitively (not to say I am right) I'd think you'd want zero return to center damping, like on the Scotts. The Scotts is by far the most popular damper across the board, here is their take on it:

www.scottsonline.com/litrack/101.pdf
  • 6 0
 @Brodybro29: Best of luck on your GF's recovery. The damper should help make some handling issues easier, might be worth adding.
  • 1 0
 @RadBartTaylor: I didn't have the right mounts when I first switched from a Husky to a Sherco, and it felt really weird and twitchy to ride until I finally got my Scotts damper swapped over. I feel zero downsides with it on the moto. I feel like it's all about reducing the outward deflection. What you can feel when you punch the bars. You definitely want speed sensitive damping, and no damping back to center IMO.
  • 6 0
 Wow! that We Are One is a cool looking bike.
  • 5 0
 What’s a retirement age aussie worth in the fantasy…
  • 7 1
 That WAO though...
  • 1 0
 "Yeti's Special Projects DH bike. It still doesn't sound like there are plans to release it to the public any time soon"
this is a finished carbon frame, not some lung-based prototype. no reason to go this far if they don't want to sell it.
  • 1 0
 Yeah I dont understand either. Yeti cultists would gobble that up even if they don't ride downhill. Also, thought companies had to sell the bikes to the public if they are putting their racers on them, though maybe I am mistaken.
  • 1 0
 I might have missed the press release but what's the benefit of the 2 chains with the Pivot bike? At first I assumed it had a gear box but looks like it's got a standard derailleur. Why not just run the chain the same way all the other high pivot bikes do??
  • 2 0
 The prototype bikes look so rad. I love seeing all the rough engineered bits. Some say it looks like a unfinished basement, but I'm a fan. Basement projects are awesome when they're fast AF.
  • 4 0
 I’m liking that Glory honestly
  • 1 0
 Kinda strange how the chain on that Yeti doesn't clear the chainstay but is resting on the front of it. Maybe the assumption is that while you're pedaling it there'll be some suspension sag so the chain would clear it?
  • 1 0
 ...Anyone know how to watch it from NZ? :] stans geo-blocked, thought skysport might have it - dosent appear so, gcn+ no longer, vpn to some cycling-live site meh.... there must be a way.... thoughts?
  • 1 0
 I've got StayLive working
  • 2 0
 Step a) drill baby drill. Step b) dangle GoPro on fishing line down hole.
  • 3 0
 Does Vali need anything to make her more faster?
  • 3 0
 The biggest tech random is that it's f*cking sunny in fortbill ☀️
  • 1 0
 I have some Purple Hayes from my 2001 Kona Stab Primo in the basement. Do I get a prize? Come on Hayes I deserve a free trade in program here!
  • 3 0
 Hopey!
  • 3 1
 BK's Pivot looks cracking!
  • 1 0
 Pivot is anodizing their lugs now..... That wasn't surprising given recent developments
  • 3 1
 The gold is so much better than the orange.
  • 1 0
 Yoshimura pedals are either using Shimano parts or the closest clone I’ve ever seen.
  • 1 0
 Hey are those new Saint cranks on the Pivot? Last year they were Raceface with a sticker IIRC... These look more convincing
  • 3 1
 Hey Fox, how about fixing your creaking CSUs for your 50th?
  • 1 0
 Do you think its only Fox's issue?
  • 1 0
 Steering Dampers seem a bit strange to me. Almost a little to moto like, not sure. The tech is cool at least
  • 1 0
 Pivot's lugged carbon prototype waiting for its......

....next snap?
....next dentist?
  • 2 0
 How short is Reece Wilson's stem ?
  • 4 3
 Pivot 2 chains many pivots not enough glue
  • 1 1
 Right, interested to see how it holds up. Hopefully.
  • 1 0
 What happened to Fox’s Dialed series?
  • 2 1
 Gold fox forks just too bling, won't age well.
  • 1 0
 Wait, flight attendant on fox?
  • 2 0
 Nope, it's actually Rockshox. Henry explains here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEnYa9C9xEo
  • 1 0
 @mintsauce: Thanks a lot mate ^^
  • 1 0
 I want to see the red Boxxer lowers paired with the gold stanchions!
  • 1 0
 Hopefully that Dominion caliper doesn't leak like mine does. :/
  • 1 0
 That Pivot is waiting for wheels that don't explode more like....
  • 2 1
 FoxShox Foxxer
  • 1 0
 Twooo chaiiiins
  • 1 0
 Hell yeah, Go Mick!
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