Interbike 2008: New Hayes Stroker DH brakes and Sun ADD Lite Wheelset Checked

Sep 30, 2008

While wandering the Outdoor Demo we spotted an oasis of shade and beer at the Hayes tent, and while under that tent we also spotted a new big-power brake from the Hayes boy's. The Stroker Ace is a Four piston brake for those of you looking for even more power. The same riders interested in the Ace's may want to check out Sun-Ringle's ADD Lite wheelet, a tough and light set of wheels that can lighten up your overweight bike!

2 Full HD Video's inside!

Denny Yunk brings us up to speed on the new Hayes Stroker Ace brake. Available in all rotor sizes, the Ace enters the field as a proper all-mountain and DH stopper.

Stroker Ace master cylinder and longer lever blade

Features
-Four pistons
-One piece mono-block caliper (no bolts)
-Larger pad surface
-Longer lever blade for more leverage
-Tool free reach adjustment

Hayes.com for more information

Next up Denny shows us his personal favorite wheelset, the Sun ADD Lite. Compatible with nearly every axle size out there, the ADD Lite's will bolt on to nearly any bike. These hand built wheels look burly enough to send it, and yet are still reasonably light weight.

Check out Sun-Ringle for all the tech specs.

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sixpointzero (Sep 27, 2008 at 0:05)

Them brakes look amazingly powerful! I'd like to give them a try!

bikrben (Sep 30, 2008 at 15:26)

those are sick. i love that design. its awsome.

glory101 (Sep 30, 2008 at 17:07)

i love them too, i cant wait until i go and pick my set up from the shop!

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TEAM-ROBOT (Sep 30, 2008 at 19:46)

The new Hayes brakes are more powerful than the old ones. They're still worse per dollar than anything from avid or shimano, and everyone I've talked with who's riding the new stroker ace's, even with an 8" rotor, says they're underpowered and overpriced. Please don't waste your money on these brakes. Can you find a better value than Avid code 5's?

vineet (Sep 30, 2008 at 20:54)

I think Avid Code-5 are good. Reasonably priced and works fine too. I have not faced any problem till now with my Avid Code-5

z-man (Sep 30, 2008 at 23:40)

over kill, i ride whistler one month a year on my magura louis FR bat carbons and have easily enough power... and it's lighter....

Fifilo (Oct 1, 2008 at 5:09)

Looks like Hope Mono m4

jonlakephoto (Oct 1, 2008 at 10:20)

thats because the lousie are straight up higher quality brakes, I BELIEVE the pricing for the Aces was around 200 per wheel, where as the Louises are quite a bit more then that.

pperini (Oct 1, 2008 at 12:14)

Louises a sick, i had it on my last bike, and riding and disappointed now with Strokers...

fr3erid3r (Nov 8, 2008 at 1:08)

i think hayes is improving but they have alot of steps to make up to catch up with avid id say

i think im gonna keep my elixir cr's

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justin888 (Sep 30, 2008 at 14:31)

I love the new Hayes, they looks Sickkk

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dreadscanada (Sep 30, 2008 at 14:32)

Hayes are good and are looking really sick these days. But ill stick with my juicy's for now. still woudnt mind trying them though.

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llessurretneprac (Sep 30, 2008 at 14:33) (Below Threshold) show comment

I f*cking love my strokers!

ownthegame88 (Sep 30, 2008 at 19:49)

why? can you actually explain your infatuation with them?

llessurretneprac (Sep 30, 2008 at 21:31)

They have tons of power and modulation, look sick, haven't had any problems with em so far. The levers are perfect for one finger braking.

z-man (Oct 1, 2008 at 8:31) (Below Threshold) show comment

i disagree

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llessurretneprac (Oct 1, 2008 at 8:47)

Care to elaborate?

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dustgry (Sep 30, 2008 at 14:35)

ACE!!!!!!!!!!

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maglor (Sep 30, 2008 at 14:38)

Nice brake, Hayes are looking good, still not sure about the levers but im sure them brakes have power just like my old hfx-mags did but i still think ill stick to my hope moto v2s.

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freddevinci (Sep 30, 2008 at 14:48)

Nice brakes. But I prefer my 4 pistons code's with the reach adjusment AND pad contact adjusment!

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jonnehboy (Sep 30, 2008 at 15:04)

hmmm they remind me alot of hopes M4 lol

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DynamicQ (Sep 30, 2008 at 15:11)

I've bought Strokers Ryde for my 4x and i hate them! Stroker trail believed to be better but oh well....

fr3erid3r (Nov 8, 2008 at 1:10)

my friend hates his stroker rydes too haha the back one squeak;s like a bitch, the levers arent that comfortable and his cable in the front has a very slow leak but thats from a fall

DynamicQ (Nov 8, 2008 at 1:41)

I hope Stroker ACE will be better.

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soccerlover99 (Sep 30, 2008 at 15:20)

is stroker any good??
i wanna buy a new bike and it comes with stroker trails... im a lil iffy about it
the ace ones look sick tho.. im sure those are pretty kick ass

buzzard (Sep 30, 2008 at 18:15)

yes.

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primodevil01 (Sep 30, 2008 at 15:32)

i had the trails on my old bike and ryde's on my new bike... the trails are amazing over the rydes and the rydes are still awsome! i can only imagine a 4 piston atroker!!! boo ya when its time for brakes i know were im trunin!!!

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cmorgan (Sep 30, 2008 at 15:54)

nice new sun attention deficit disorders (ADD). Ha jk but this stuff is looking pretty sick.

bradownie (Oct 8, 2008 at 14:53)

ADD actually stand for Another Damn Downhiller Razz

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me-likey-DH (Sep 30, 2008 at 15:55)

"soccerlover99 (30 mins ago) (Below Threshold) show comment
is stroker any good??
i wanna buy a new bike and it comes with stroker trails... im a lil iffy about it
the ace ones look sick tho.. im sure those are pretty kick ass"

don't let the brakes a bike comes with turn you away from the bike, you can always trade them in for different ones at the bike shop you buy it from

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mudman1411 (Sep 30, 2008 at 16:21)

looks like hayes are moving up a knoch in the break bizness

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nateb (Sep 30, 2008 at 16:26)

hayes might be bringing their rep out of the gutters with these.....if they work, looks ain't everything.

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wearerider (Sep 30, 2008 at 16:29)

dont have to worry about underpowered brakes with these

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xdannyx (Sep 30, 2008 at 16:29) (Below Threshold) show comment

i ride 08 staits. f*cking buitiful. iv rode strokers too. good but nothing compared to a saint. and anything juicy is horrible.

norcotorrent04 (Sep 30, 2008 at 21:50)

bitch are you retarted ?

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skizzer (Sep 30, 2008 at 16:58)

Brakes... they only slow you down...

Zbrodniciel (Oct 21, 2008 at 0:53)

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mtbrider27 (Sep 30, 2008 at 17:12)

Those brakes don't interest me to much. I think I will stick with the codes!

buzzard (Sep 30, 2008 at 18:13)

good choice... my friend has those and says they work BETTER when they are hot

norcotorrent04 (Sep 30, 2008 at 21:51)

my brakes work like shit When there noisy and make a wierd arse sound forr about an hour after you heated em GRRRRR HAYES NINES SUCK THE MASSIVE MEATSTICK

norcotorrent04 (Sep 30, 2008 at 21:52)

i meant when there hot and there real noisy to

buzzard (Oct 5, 2008 at 7:54)

i was still talking about the codes...

norcotorrent04 (Oct 5, 2008 at 22:51)

yea u no but i was sayin my brakes work worse when there hot

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godfried (Sep 30, 2008 at 17:34)

use BB7, save all the fuss!

worldbike (Sep 30, 2008 at 17:39)

he speaks the truth!

norcotorrent04 (Sep 30, 2008 at 21:53)

if you want to kiss a tree

onakos (Oct 1, 2008 at 10:00)

I've got BB7 and I think it's problem is the overheating...

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cuxy (Sep 30, 2008 at 18:17)

these hopes...err hayes actually looks pretty good

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trailslayer77 (Sep 30, 2008 at 18:28)

Four pistons!!! that is gnar braking power.

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sniggled (Sep 30, 2008 at 18:45)

They really need to come up with some sort of disc brake pad standard. I'm sick of having to stock 30+ different types of pads in my shop. Shimano alone has at least 14 different shapes. This is getting silly...

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mdh15 (Sep 30, 2008 at 18:52)

6 piston what!! who would bother on a dh bike my hayes nines are dual pistons and are powerful enough to make me go over the bars at 3kp/h. i would love to get a set of (another dam downhillers) add wheels tho. keep up the good work hayes

norcotorrent04 (Oct 2, 2008 at 3:37)

have you got HULK fingers

cuz i dunno how that is possible with nines

mdh15 (Oct 3, 2008 at 18:32)

no, for some reason there just extremely sensetiv, more than my friends juicy 3

norcotorrent04 (Oct 4, 2008 at 1:06)

wow
well you get lucky some times

mdh15 (Oct 4, 2008 at 1:09)

im afraid to use the front ones alot of the time

norcotorrent04 (Oct 4, 2008 at 1:15)

well mine are shitty my pistons are f*cked beyond return and ya

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tomyboy82 (Sep 30, 2008 at 19:15)

weeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol

callumbillington (Oct 2, 2008 at 11:07)

Haha beat me to it!

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nelsonryder (Sep 30, 2008 at 19:45)

Those aces work wicked, i have been riding then for the last month on my Guide bike, they kick ass Wink

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i-like-dirt (Sep 30, 2008 at 19:56)

the lever feel of the aces are much nicer than the old ones when i had a feel in the lbs the other day

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adhkcrfhonda (Sep 30, 2008 at 20:24)

i hate my old hayes so idk if want these they do look good though

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demoflight (Sep 30, 2008 at 20:35)

i love my new stroker aces. i've had them for a month now and they own

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cecka (Sep 30, 2008 at 23:08)

As someone said:"hayes are good brakes... for strong people". Think I`ll stick with my Louise FR thank you.

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MCHardmanUK (Sep 30, 2008 at 23:23)

Still prefer Hope brakes over anyting else, reliable, not to badly priced and there powerful to say the least, great lever feel, not spongty but solid feeling

ridekonastuff (Oct 1, 2008 at 0:28)

hope all the way for me 2

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superMHrider (Oct 1, 2008 at 0:00)

lets just say hayes brakes are shokingley awful
AVIDS are the way of life

thomasowen (Oct 1, 2008 at 8:36)

Debateable. Hayes nine brakes were great. Personally i dont like the feal of avids and they feal too sloppy. Hope are better imo as they're stiffer.

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Jcotton (Oct 1, 2008 at 1:35)

those things look sexy as, i much prefure avid but there the only hayes i like Big Grin

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jackgolfgti (Oct 1, 2008 at 6:32)

bastard just bought some carbon stroker and now they bring these out ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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rockthat (Oct 1, 2008 at 6:56)

Buying a pair of Hayes in 2009 is a shame...

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nfiorito (Oct 1, 2008 at 7:50)

I'm not super happy with my stroker trails, but meh. on another note, though, how nice are these vids from pinkbike now? nice HD and good production quality. actually nice to watch and learn about the product.

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thomasowen (Oct 1, 2008 at 8:35)

Im not too keen on the strokers. I think they should bring out a new version of the hayes nine brake.

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djbuilder (Oct 1, 2008 at 9:50)

So much disapointment in the hfx 9 line that I don't know if i'll ever go back to hayes again. Especially since i've been riding elixer r's for 2 months now.

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j-a-m-e-s (Oct 1, 2008 at 11:56)

does anyone know which ones are more poerfull?? these beasts or jucy sevens or codes??

j-a-m-e-s (Oct 1, 2008 at 11:56)

sorry i meant powerfull

Jacobrjett (Dec 8, 2008 at 5:03)

These beasts power are on par with codes, but i would choose these over codes any day.

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Szczotek (Oct 1, 2008 at 13:33)

Hayes = no modulation ;]

mtnbikermaniac (Oct 2, 2008 at 12:00)

obviousaly you havent ridden strokers....

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dirtdart999 (Oct 3, 2008 at 14:12)

the strokers i tried were rediculously lame. no modulation. they look neat but suck

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P3biker4 (Oct 3, 2008 at 15:45)

i hate my crappy old hayes soles!! i got them on my P2 and they SUCK!!! I think i might buy avid juicy 5's, bb7's, codes, or these brakes right here, the stroker aces. they look sick

yakrider (Oct 8, 2008 at 10:14)

wow you had hayes shittyest hydro! no doubt you thought they suck, one piston will suck on any brake. all you guys are only knocking hayes because of the shitty quallity control on the nines, i'm sure that they fixed that here. and if they don't then this company will die, within a year.

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TyreBurningBiker (Oct 30, 2008 at 13:05)

i have super old hayes and no prob with them! exet once a ripped hose... but that was my fault xD

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TyreBurningBiker (Oct 30, 2008 at 13:06)

exept*

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fugazzi (Nov 8, 2008 at 10:46)

I have had hayes and they work they are either on or off im not impressed modulation sucks when the brakes get wet,and dusty they squeal they are not quiet and smooth like juiceys or codes with tonnes of modulation and better stopping power.

jlp17 (Nov 10, 2008 at 13:16)

i have the same problem except wid juicys but wen they r dry they r smooth but the hayes look lush im gona get em!

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Jacobrjett (Dec 8, 2008 at 5:01)

Those brakes are powerful, i have felt them, they gave me the same feeling that you touch them and they grab instantly, like codes. however i trust hayes a lot more then i trust avid. Im going to get lots of negative props for this but i think avid are a load of crap, they always leak and have problems. Nothing beats a pair of saints though, so long as they are working - i had to replace my pads and get them bled, after that they are all you will ever need.

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McFresh (Dec 30, 2008 at 18:16)

i've got last years strokers on my FR HT and while yes they are nice brakes they aren't very durable and they get REALLY loud when the trails get wet.
also i find them to be a lot twitchier than some of the other brakes i've ridden.

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fantaman (Mar 16, 2009 at 16:13)

Hayes has still the best way to change brake pads,it's just seconds work and your'e done.

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