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@esstinkay: But when it was first overhauled they would have still needed to pay for a horst link which no matter what anyone tells you paying for something VS free does impact their decisions... I will go check the link sometime though. Thanks!

@kwapik: Then it's not a steel Honzo which is what's being discussed

@andnyleswillriot: which was also pointed out to just be a rakattach with different stickers.

DOH, could have had a horst link... I know, it's just one aspect of a four bar suspension design. Just that I can't wrap my head around not using either a split or a variation of a horst for the braking aspects. Kona did their very best back in the day to convince consumers they needed magic links and brake therapy. And here they are re-imagining the whole line and there is no longer a patent in the way...? For sure linkage and damper designs are light years ahead of where they were 10 years ago. And maybe back to back/blind test a rider wouldn't notice at this point. Just seems like a no brainer to move that pivot.

I've only worn cheap bell, then giro, then recently bell again along with giro. So no doubt in my eyes they make good products. But I'm gonna give a thumbs down to how this idea played out... even if it has the best intentions. Just the name, "helmetfacts" is a red flag at worst or just a poor choice at best. "fact" according to who? Any entity that is self regulating the "facts" about an industry where they are providing information to consumers is too much of a conflict of interest. This should have been worked out with a third party in some way and would be much better if other helmet companies where involved with the effort. Otherwise it just "feels" like a marketing ploy. Even if all the information given is on the up and up. (but how could we ever know it was???) So start with a gut feeling based on the name of the website and what they are doing that it doesn't seem like a good idea, and then THEIR VIDEO..... Come on, that was nothing but an advertorial. Not for a specific product, but for their company, their history, their emotional ties. That was like the "feel good" video presentation you give to employee's for a business anniversary or something. If I'm supposed to believe this information is even remotely un-biased information being presented for only it's educational value to the consumer than it needs to be presented in a more scientific way. Granted, I only watched the opening vid, maybe everything else gets back to a more "data" driven theme with lots of cool helmet smashes to keep viewers interest? Anyway, sometimes things seem like great idea's and then the customer just drops a load on it. Been there. Sorry!!! :)

BINGO! If Bell/Giro wanted to be un-biased they should have worked with an organization like yours. Hosted/funded the video footage, providing whatever additional information they were comfortable with releasing, etc.

@TheOriginalTwoTone: If we were all mincraft/roblox characters with blockheads that had to pick between hair made of grease or sandpaper I guess you'd have a point to make? :)

Silly Rabit, TwentySix are for kids... :)