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Yea that comment just seems off. The Geo is just a few millimeters off from the SB130. I'm sure if you went back to back rides you would notice the difference. But complaining that it's "cramped" makes no sense...???

Now do a "really bad habit" with steeper STA, slacker HTA and a 150 up front please! :)

The look on his face in the bottom pictures, "are you done yet..... my arm is getting tired, take the picture already, Fuuuuuu......." :)

@jclnv: It's the tall stack height that made me think of it in the first place... (a bit too tall anyway so could use the lower set up) But I guess your right with the IS headset killing the deal/idea for more reach. Bummer... Offset bushings then!!! JKN

@mikelevy: @mikelevy: "There are tradeoff's"; but isn't that the point? If the tradeoff for more efficient climbing is at the expense of small bump sensitivity, or square edge hits, odd pedaling feel, etc.(which is usually the case) Than it's just a matter of deciding which side of the tradeoff you want to be on? Pinkbikes review of the Foxy was very positive on it's climbing attributes but I just read one where they were still hitting the climbing switch. And if the Polygon reference was about the React 2 play suspension or whatever they call it. Sure there was some good initial reviews when they were new. But that's about the last I've seen of them? Sure don't seem to be taking on the mountain bike world by storm??? I mean, if someone truly has the suspension equation solved, especially without higher cost and needing to have it plugged in I'm all for it. I'm not wanting to flip a switch, etc. But so far it seems like there is always some kind of a "tradeoff" or compromise to be made. So you just gotta pick what compromise you want to make...

@jclnv: I'm no expert, but my understanding is that slackening out the headtube rotates the front end down and away from the rear axle and steepens the seat tube angle/lowers the BB. If you got out a level and a ruler it seems as though that increases reach and lowers stack? There was a Banshee Spitfire thread back before the last frame update and they were slacking out head tubes along with some even reducing fork travel to increase reach. If a person just puts on a longer fork they are rotating the front end up and back reducing reach and increasing stack, slacking seat and raising BB. So if you combine that with a slacker angleset you can add a longer fork without changing geo. (which I have done before, though in my case I needed to run an external lower cup that raised things back up so reach was about the same) What I was thinking with the Stumpy is a 2 degree slacker headset and then just 10mm longer fork. So the longer fork should negate some of the reach change, but even a little longer would help out. (and my experience on the test ride was that just the small changes I had made were significant in how the bike felt, so even some small reach increase would be beneficial) Anyway, this was all just armchair thought experiment. No idea what headset the stumpy is running to know what kind of angleset options there would be...

That photography was unbelievable... nice!!

Short story, "- Not all that efficient under power " seems a harsh comment. It's not as if your pedal stroke is just lost in shock movement like this was a late 80's single pivot!

Agree. Though I haven't rode any of these other bikes they are comparing but flipping a switch on big climbs so that the suspension can be super plush is a good thing to me. Maybe the Reactive on the trek, or the updated SI on the Yeti really is that good? (everything just keeps getting better!) But for sure the Kona was the tried and true efficient at the expense of plush. (which seems contrary to everything Kona's used to be about??) Hard to believe the Bronson was rated as such a good climber. I thought the whole point of the new linkage was to get more plush at the expense of a little efficiency? BIDK On my V2 bronson, by the time I felt the shock was tuned to get the plush feel I wanted it it pretty much lost any pedal benefit over the Enduro it was replacing. (I did think it sit higher in it's travel) I still hit the "cheater switch" when I was tired...

whats a shanty n°5?