transam711

pre-ride before you freeride

They're definitely on different sides of the sizing charts, but the perspective is also way different. Devinci guy is standing with his toe under the rear tire, Intense girl is standing 3' back.

Aaron Chase had some wild Cannondale shit back in the day, I remember seeing a clip of him doing an x-up with a (double crown) Lefty on a DJ bike at some point.

Oh my god imagine how expensive an all made-in-first-world-countries bike would be though

between the errant cables, stack of spacers under the stem, and the dork disc on the back, it's like they were trying to make the bike look as bad as possible for that pic

@PHeller: oh absolutely not even approaching the level of danger that a dirt bike has, but people definitely seem to treat those with more respect than ebikes (no 50 y/o would go hop on a 250 after not riding moto for 30 years, and then go for a 2 hour ride out into the wilderness by himself). These random old fat dudes seem to think they're going to be some sort of bike-handling god once they slide their geriatric ass onto the saddle of their 8 grand 'TURBO THICC BOI E BIKE SPECIAL', and they're going to cause issues for the rest of us: how many times will emergency services respond to a remote-rescue call at a local trail system before the trail system gets called into question and potentially shut down? This past weekend I also saw multiple groups of what I assume were busy-schedule dad's: 30-40 y/o guys bullshitting and self shuttling, not posing a risk or danger to anyone. In other words, the perfect application for ebikes, getting in some extra laps while having fun with your buddies. idk this is just kinda me musing, I have no real point.

I don't care if ebikes are allowed on my local trails, I don't care how they look, I don't care if brands want to make them (though I'd rather see them using R+D resources for actual bike development, or lowering costs across the line). But I have had 2 separate negative experiences with ebikers over the last few months: 1. very out of shape older guy came around a flat corner hauling ass, I was pulled off to the side of the trail nearby in a clearing/commonly used break spot. He ate shit, as (nearly) anyone would've coming into the corner as fast as he did; keep in mind the trail doesn't set this corner up fast, he presumably pedaled/throttled into it. I ran over to help + make sure he was okay, he proceeded to yell at me for being in his way and for stopping in a dangerous spot. 2. very out of shape older guy + out of shape son on two ebikes, son came into an odd section of trail too fast, hit a roller and went OTB, broke his wrist + sprained ankle or something similar. Dad was very friendly, but they were out on a remote trail (a single black) they would have never pedaled to on their own, and a rescue team with a stretcher had to be called in to come get the kid out as he wasn't able to walk himself + the bike back. Completely anecdotal but just a good example of my two biggest concerns with ebikes. Idiots going too fast for the trail, not realizing these trails weren't all built to go 25 mph on at all times. And people getting further away from safety than they should, with false confidence in their abilities due to the bike getting them there easily.