KS i950r Telescoping Seatpost Review

Oct 19, 2010
by Mike Levy  
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Adjustable height seatposts are very quickly becoming the norm for a lot of riders. There are certain types of terrain where a dropping post is not needed, but more and more riders are seeing the light and looking past the weight penalty to see the benefits of being able to get the seat out of the way on the fly. There will be a time very soon when many bikes will come stock with dropping posts straight off the showroom floor. Regardless of the make or model, a telescoping post can add safety and raise the flow factor to any ride. It's no secret that a lot of the telescoping posts on the market are finicky and leave something to be desired in the reliability department, which I find a bit strange because although the idea may be new to bicycles, the technology itself certainly isn't new. So with a few sour experiences in my past, I picked up the KS i950r to see how it would fare. I was pleasantly surprised to find that not only did the i950r come stock with cable and housing for the remote, but also a booklet with detailed rebuild instructions. I'm not sure if it is because a lot of the industry is scared of consumers working on their own parts, but not enough companies include these things. Kudos to KS! Installation was a snap. The slotted cable stop combined with the aluminum cable anchor makes it quite easy to take up any initial cable slack from assembly. The two parallel seat rail clamp bolts are easy to deal with, even if it doesn't look like the more common in-line two bolt seatpost heads that we're used to seeing.
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Inside the post you'll find a clever, one-way self adjusting bearing system that lets the post cycle up and down freely, but keeps it from rotating sideways. The design eliminates the need for a single or double key way layout that so many other posts depend on, even though key ways tend to be very susceptible to wear in my experience. The post's "stanchion" uses a double hard anodized coating that should keep it running smooth for a long time. The red anodized collar atop the post's body houses an effective seal, but is also used to control the KS's rebound via friction. Turning it clockwise applies more pressure and slows the post's return. Loosening the collar has the opposite effect.
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The remote can take the place of an ODI lock-on collar, and some other brands as well, so it takes up very little bar space, but even more importantly it means that you don't have to try and squeeze it in around your shifter and lever clamps. The remote can be used on both the left and right sides of the bar as well. I needed to give the post a good bump to get it to lower at first as it was a bit stiff from not being used, but once it cycled up and down a few times it moved much freer. Also, care is needed to not over tighten the remote's lever clamp. Doing so kept the lever pivot from rotating freely.


Specifications
Price $299
Weight Starting at 463 (300mmx75mm) g
Offset Zero
Diameter 30.9mm and 31.6mm
Length 300mm, 350mm and 400mm
Material 7050 Aluminum Forged






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With 5" of drop and the ability to have it stop at any point in its travel without having to search for a particular stop, the KS is very easy to use. Roll up to a technical section and give the lever a push, it doesn't take an excessive amount of cable pull to activate, and your body weight drops the post to whatever height you'd like it to be at. Fast and smooth trails can benefit from a seat that is only dropped an inch or so in order to lower your center of gravity, or maybe you'll feel more comfortable on that short but mega technical climb with the seat dropped 2" - the ability to select any height was greatly appreciated. The KS post had basically zero side to side play when new, a millimeter or two at most, and 10 months later it has not increased in the slightest. The dual bolt head has remained creak free and the rail clamping bolts have not loosened over time. The post's head threads on to the stanchion and I did manage to knock it loose once, although this was solved by using the seat for leverage and turning it clockwise an 1/8th of a turn to snug it back up. Like any cable operated system, whether it's your shifting, brakes, or a seatpost, it will only function properly if the cable can move freely through the housing. If there is any binding, be it caused by contamination or damage, the post will suffer. Hard to fault the post itself for this. Cable replacement aside, the KS post is still working great after nearly a full year of hard use, much of it bad weather, and close to zero maintenance. The KS i950r has a lot of redeeming qualities, but it isn't perfect. The first issue arose during installation, which was KS's choice to use a very small sized Allen key to anchor the housing cap at the post's head. I know space is tight and smaller is lighter, but its size borders on being ridiculous and will be prone to stripping out, especially by home mechanics who's Allen keys may not be in pristine condition. The other point of contention is the fact that you must use a 4 mm (the stop only accepts 4 mm housing caps) metal housing cap for said setscrew to properly hold it in place... yet the KS post only comes with standard plastic housing ends. Within a few rides the plastic cap had worked its way loose, never to be clamped tightly again. Once I replaced it with a metal housing cap, which can be quite hard to source in the needed 4 mm size, all was well again. It should also be noted that if the post sits unused for a few days it can become quite stiff until it is run through its travel a few times. There are some issues that could be addressed to make the Kind Shock seatpost even better, just as with any product. What it did do was prove itself to be a reliable and, foibles aside, well functioning telescoping post, which is far more than I can say for some of the competition out there. There are some interesting options becoming available, including the new RockShox Reverb and the new Fox post that is in the early stage of prototyping, but the KS is king of the current crop of telescoping posts and a very good investment for any rider who is looking to add some flow to their rides.

Pros
  • Not limited to set heights
  • More reliable than any pressurized or hydraulic posts I've used so far
  • Best remote out there


Cons
  • Too small hardware
  • Needs metal 4 mm housing cap
  • Becomes stiff if not used for a few days

Visit the Kind Shock website for more details.


Telescoping posts are catching on and there are now quite a few options to choose from, although I'll admit that some have left me disappointed. The Crank Brothers that I reviewed last season ended up failing multiple times post test, not too mention it sported a seat rail clamp that refused to do its job. The Specialized Command Post was promising despite being very sensitive to cable tension, but was again let down by a head that failed after the review was written. After 10 months of hard use, including nasty weather and torture from the pressure washer, the KS i950r has proven to be the best of the bunch by far. I am impressed, but if you've used the Kind Shock, let's hear about it. Put your thoughts and experiences down below!

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  • 5 0
 Have had a lot of use out of my KS post and it is by far the best on the market! All you have to do is open it up and apply fresh great once and a while (very easy) and use a sealed end cap at the post end to keep the crap out. Changing the housing will always make the actuation great again. No problem and no complaints what so ever.
  • 1 1
 As usual with telescoping posts, the cable and housing is always the weak point. If something isn't right, there is a good chance that it has something to do with the cable. Change it out or lube it and everything should be good to go... But I am excited about the new RockShox Reverb. No cables to get contaminated!
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: I am the future and in the future Reverbs are poop
  • 4 0
 I've been having a terrible experience with KS customer support. My post (i950r) went out after using it for only 3 months. I called and they had me send it back in Nov. By Feb I was getting impatient but the guy (Rick Taylor) kept telling me via email that everything was fine and my post would be sent out shortly.Then he just stopped returning my emails. Afterwards, another guy named Ron Easton contacted me by the end of Feb telling me they had no record of ever receiving my post. I sent him the UPS delivery confirmation and the correspondence between me and the other KS employee and he seemed to want to help. The last time I called him he said he wasn't in front of his notes and would call me back by the end of the day. 2 weeks now and no return phone call. He has also stopped returning my emails. I may end up opening a small claims lawsuit. I will not do business with KS ever again and plan on getting my money or product back some how. I've since purchased a RS Reverb.
  • 2 0
 I did a pretty extensive piece of research on adjustable seat posts a couple of months back and wound up getting the Gravity Dropper Turbo. Pros: 1)All Mechanical (read easy maintenance with intuitive mechanics), 2) fixed remote activation cable (e.g. cable doesn't produce a snag hazard when seat is in the down position, and probably most of all, 3)the opinions of other riders (was highly across websites, forums, and anyone I spoke to who owned one) . The major Cons were; 1) the whole design looks like something out of the 80's (especially the mud guard - think 80's RS Judy boots here- and the remote activation lever - which, while functional, looks cheap)and 2) the current models only go up to 4" of travel. Having ridden with the Gravity Dropper a couple of months I am pretty happy with it. The KS model above came out after I did my evaluation, but from the looks of it would have been a serious alternative (much better looks and 5" of drop). Be careful not to under estimate the maintenance and repair aspects though - you will need to break the seat down and repair it frequently. I read somewhere once that after disc brakes and suspension, adjustable seat posts will have the biggest impact on how you ride and especially your 'flow'. After having one for three months, I would agree and would have a hard time riding a bike without one now.
  • 1 0
 This is one of the best evaluations of the Gravity Dropper Turbo I have read (especially for the snag hazard, not many people consider this). Sure, the curb appeal of the Gravity Dropper posts could use some updating, but this post works and is currently stated in the latest Mountain Bike magazine as the most reliable adjustable height seat post on the market. The 5" drop post is currently available, I have been riding it for the last 3 months and love it. Having read a few of the other comments below this, I have never experienced, or met anyone who has, the nad cannon effect. I have simply gotten used to slowing down the retraction with the inside of my leg. Also, if you are wearing a chamois liner under your riding shorts, it would be very difficult to slap the wedding tackle.

Having said this, I have heard a few positive comments from people who use the KS posts. As long as the reliability is maintained, this seems to be a solid adjustable height seat post. It surely has a much better reputation than the Joplin, which I have seen a leak in the box in our shop.
  • 2 0
 Best Purchase I've made to date... yes it sometimes sticks on the first press after a week in the garage but only for a second. After that it is smooth like butter all day.(i also have the 2011 model on my girlfriends bike and it doesnt stick at all) The seat does not rotate or sway inside the housing like other brands. I prefer the under seat lever but both work great. I've used it for a season and couldn't be happier. Its amazingly durable and at 225lbs i break stuff. My girlfriend says it makes steep descents possible. Bottom Line!!! Best innovation since dual suspension and Kind Shock nailed it... Props to pinkbike, I was wondering when someone would report on the best post out there...
  • 2 0
 Got one on my rig (since June). Took some getting used to, but definately worth it! Get an old inner tube and slip the seatpost through all the way to the top. That'll winter proof it! Wink Just remember to check it once in a while for any gunk build up and it'll last longer between servicing intervals.
  • 2 0
 I like the idea of the boot, but you need to be careful about it actually trapping dirt or water that manages to get behind it as opposed to letting the gunk run off if there wasn't a boot on it. This reason, combined with better seals these days, is why there are no fork boots anymore. Sometimes they can do more harm than good.
  • 1 0
 yeah i hear you buddy! Wink
  • 3 1
 I use a Gravity Dropper seat post and in my opinion it's the best solution -> no hydraulics, no pressure or what so ever, nearly no maintenance. It works like the best forks and shocks
-> with a steel spring. It doesn't get "stiff" or moves when you lift the bike holding the saddle and it comes with a rubber protection that you don't have to retrofit. It's the better product, hands down.
  • 2 0
 buja,

A staff member here has been using the Gravity Dropper and he swears by it. As of right now there is only a 4" drop version though. After using the KS post I wouldn't use any less than 5", although GD does have a 5" post in the works. Now if they could only make it less fugly...
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy you're right, the GD is fugly as hell! It's just good that I don't have to look at it while riding. Yeah and I would also appreciate 5" of drop, but hey, sometimes you just can't have it all. My focus was on maintenance free performance and with that in mind the Gravity Dropper is the way to go. But I'm pretty sure there will be more options in the future. It adds so much more flow when riding different terrain with lot's of up- and downhills.
  • 1 0
 The Gravity Dropper is actually available in both 2,3,4 and 5". And yes I am a happy owner myself Smile Being a XC rider I purchased the 3" version and it has really changed both my confidence and how I handle my bike, especially while descending. Once in a while I could really use that 'stepless' action of the KS ... so welcome! to what seems to be another great post.
  • 1 0
 The problem with gravity droppers is they start loosening up, side to side, and they don't have the limitless in-between adjustment.
  • 1 0
 I have yet to experience that problem with my post, and I have done 1.000km on it - lubricated it once! Play is definitely an issue with many adjustable seatposts, but what's important is what YOU can do about it. The Gravity Dropper is a very simple construction; gravitydropper.com/products/turbo-parts - basically two aluminum tubes, one moving inside another, with two plastic shims handling the friction. You simply change these shims - 2$ a pair! - and whatever play is gone.
  • 2 0
 i run the KS post without the remote as i got it a couple of years ago. myadvice is you gotta have the remote version to get the most out of these posts so that you can easily alter it. mine is still pretty easy but the remote is better.
  • 2 0
 Actually having used both the remote and non-remote I like the non-remote version. But I will admit I'm one of the few people to prefer the non-remote
  • 2 0
 i bought a CB Joplin 4 with remote... got about 6 rides out of it... blown, back for warranty. My wife "almost" got 1 ride out of her specialized command post - back for warranty. At least the Joplin worked awesome before it blew; the Command Post works like crap, feels like crap, and is totally unreliable - simply the worst bike product i have ever purchased. As i heard someone say - I should have just stuffed $300 and a 1lb weight inside of my Thomson post. Got a new bike coming with the KS on it.... fingers crossed. I have a feeling teh Rock Shox will be the real ticket though.
  • 1 0
 Update: Got my first ride in on the KS on the new bike. Awesome. Until it turned into another suspension seatpost just like my blown Joplin. Got about 3/4 of a ride out of it.. almost 1 ride.. which is about par for the bike industry with this particular invention. The Command post on my wife's bike feels like crap - but at least it technically works.

The frustrating thing is just how awesome it is to ride with one... serious buzz kill to throw in the conventianal seatpost when you know how fun it is to ride with one of the remote adjustable posts. Pretty bummed.
  • 1 0
 I haven't used the KS, but I have two friends that have it, and they absolutely love it. I have a Gravity Dropper, and it has treated me really well for a few years now. Granted, it looks much worse than the KS, but it functions great, and I can't imagine better customer service. I crashed and broke the lever after about a year, I sent the post back to the company so they could fix it, and I had the post back with a new lever and a complete rebuild, free of charge in less than three days!
  • 1 0
 i have been having problems with mine. the valve that opens and closes to allow lengthening and shorting sticks. the post then behaves like a suspension post going up and down when the seat is weighted and unweighted. i have had the post since june and this is the 2nd time it has been sent back taking 10 days or more to get it back. there is no question i love using the post it's just the durability i have to question.
  • 2 0
 Please give me a call at (949) 742-1180 to arrange to send it in to me here at KS USA. I am sure we can get it working better than new and not have any more issues for you.
-Rick
  • 2 0
 will do rick. call you in the morning. thats some sweet customer service. took you 32 minutes to reply!
  • 1 0
 I'm new to the drop post thing, though I've wanted one for the last eight or so years. I've drooled over the KS for the last 2 or 3 years, but the price point kept me from pulling the trigger. I finally went with the Giant Contact Switch, and since I haven't seen anybody mention it, I'm gonna.

Not having to stop makes saddle height adjustment a no-brainer. The first steep descent I hit I completely forgot I had that capability, but when I remembered it was like I was on a totally different bike. It felt weird having the seat hit me right above the knees, but I got over that fast.

The Contact switch has an interesting mechanism for actuation, but the full tech specs are included and make it a snap to install. I asked the shop guy if I could run it using cable stops instead of full housing, and he said he didn't know, but threw in an extra length of cable and housing and said to try it out. I'm here to tell you that it works flawlessly.

The jury is still out on long term durability, as I've only had it on the bike for 2 months, but it immediately changed my riding style and I never want to ride without one again.

The only issue I've got with it is the side to side play (about 2mm) but that's just me being picky cuz I've never felt it on the bike. Also if you over tighten the clamp bolt it makes the stanchion stick, but I haven't found any other problems yet.
  • 1 0
 I used to use an i900r (older remote lever) before I sold it, and I have to say that it was extremely solid-feeling regardless of the height you choose (infinite adjustability is nice too). I wasn't a big fan of the seat mounting hardware but it didn't give me any trouble, and I think the only drawback I noticed was that yes, it does get stiff after a few days off. I shipped my sold unit to a fellow out West and had him question the legitimacy of my sale because the travel was so sticky for him - I guess a few days of interstate travel will do that. After some VERY MINOR service he was a happy camper.
  • 1 0
 I've had mine for 6 months, and I'm pretty damn pleased with it. It's easier to use than the Gravity Dropper, IMHO. After 6 months I haven't had to do anything to it maintenance-wise. It is sticky on first use, so I ususally cycle it once in the parking lot and I'm good to go.
  • 1 0
 Have had mine for 6 months and it's totally changed how I ride ! Steep technical drops are a piece of cake now ! Yeah, it does stick if it hasn't been used for a day or two, but cycle it once or twice and then its good again. Am very pleased with it indeed and it only cost me 170€, Specialized was next on my list but for 300€ I wasn't too impressed.
  • 2 0
 if you look for adjustable seatpost, this is the one. How don't know how the Rockshox Reverb is but since these products took time to increase their durability it's better to go for something that is good already.
  • 1 0
 I've got a Reverb in the mail and should arrive Friday!!! Can't wait! I was about to pull the trigger on KS when PB ran the news of the Rockshox's upcoming offering back in May. With everyone complaining about the cable issue it seemed Rockshox had come up with the best solution to date. Now lets hope I don't get a fat lemon for adopting early eh?
  • 4 1
 I know someone running this and it is a very good product, looks awesome too. Great review here tup
  • 7 3
 unbelievable expensive compared to the computer chair im sitting on which does pretty much the same thing and costs about a fifth of the price
  • 9 1
 Yep oli, and the hell you put your computer chair through eh. all those muddy trails you take it down and the pressure washing you give it afterwards, and the 20 times you adjust it during the 3 hours you're sat on it, combine those with the main fact of your chairs post is much bigger meaning they have so much more space to fit the gubbins in etc. They've only just been able to create a 27.2 dia. post because of the tiny amount of space available. In short it's nothing like your chair and so therefore the price is nothing like your chair.
  • 2 1
 ok, well i still dont think it should cost $300, thats just ridiculous. all you would have to do is put one of those simple plastic seals over the tube and it would stop all the dirt and mud and stuff getting into it

you cant tell me that its unnecessary expensive for such a simple thing
  • 1 0
 Um expensive? Its actually cheep compared to other things in the industy. Dont complain just to complain.
  • 1 0
 Oli, one major difference! The computer chairs cylinder is free to spin. These posts have to be kept straight, which is not easy to do while keeping the friction to a minimum, and keeping it sliding smoothly...
  • 3 0
 I think it's pretty awesome that KS has someone who is willing to answer consumer questions. Thanks for that Rick.
  • 1 0
 What is the seat rail to top of seat post distance of the KS post in full down position?
How about the RS Reverb (same question)?
GD is 3.75" and Rase is 2.75" and a regular post is 1"-1.5" depending on design.

Thanx
  • 1 0
 so much nicer than the crap brothers!! lets see what rockshox can do. how about fox or shimano they both have on in the works. If only thomson woul join the fray
  • 2 0
 Agreed. The original Crank Brothers introduced me, along with a lot of other riders, to the idea of telescoping posts and now I can't imagine life without one. But holy cow are they unreliable. I reviewed one for PB and it worked ok for the test, but shit the bed shortly after. And again. And then again. Along with 3 others Joplins that we've had. No excuses, that post needs a reworking.
  • 2 0
 Broken record along with Mike but the Crank Brothers posts are terrible. Unreliable finicky pieces of garbage.
  • 1 0
 Im going to stick with my 1987 Joe Breeze titanium "HITE RITE". Travel adjust with air springs has been tried by every single fork company none have been reliable. IT TALAS ATA TWO STEP all fail so as much as I hate them crap bros really did not stand a chance. Why not a ti spring for the seatpost app it could be very light and so reliable. Every crap bros engineer should have to ride 60km on a 34 pound bike with the seat bottomed out btw.
  • 2 0
 Really nice review. keep up Razz
  • 1 0
 I've got an i950 without remote and it extends by itself when I lift my bike (tot. 17.5kg) by the saddle. Is this normal?
  • 2 0
 It is no problem... There is a floating piston inside that seperates the oil from the air, preventing cavitation. This is different than the open bath system on a Crank Brother's Joplin which will cavitate and requires repeated cycling to purge the air from the valve in order to resume function. You can also feel free to hang the bike from the post such as in a repair stand. It will not harm the internals in any way.
  • 1 0
 Oh, I forgot to say that the seat post does not retreat by itself when it gets extended by the weight of the bike. Also, when I remove the red nut and push in the seat post, I can hear the air stream out. Is this really normal?
  • 1 0
 umm you bought a $300 telescoping post, but couldn't afford to get a new seat for the review?

lol..
  • 2 0
 Sounds like someone who hasn't spent years and years finding just the saddle for himself. I don't give two shits what it looks like, I am sitting on it after all, as long as it's comfortable at the end of a big epic.
  • 1 0
 yeah but its ripping and falling apart.. why not get the same seat again
  • 1 0
 Even though a seat may be the exact same make and model, they can feel very different sometimes. The Aliante, the saddle pictured, is one that I've found to be guilty of that. I've felt others that are far softer, something I'm not looking for. Also, the was taken after the post had been on my personal bike for quite a long time, that seat has been with me years now... It's not looking too bad for what it's been through! =)
  • 1 0
 haha nice..
  • 1 1
 Can I run the KS remote on my Command Post? I'm really digging the fact its an ODI collar replacement... looks a lot better too.
  • 2 1
 i've been using my i900 since june, and i cant imagine life without it. and it really gets stiff.
  • 1 0
 ks is the best adjustable seat post on the market in my mind. can't imagine riding without one.
  • 1 0
 I have one and love it...but am selling it now to get a reverb, it has the extra travel I need for my long legs.
  • 1 0
 The Reverb is only 5" (same as your KSi950r). The new 6" KS i950r will be available here in the USA in about 2 months.
  • 2 0
 Looks nice but more companies need to make them in 27.2mm Frown
  • 3 0
 Check out the KS i7r. It will be available here in the USA in about 3-4 weeks.
  • 1 0
 Oh this is great news. Something to put on my Christmas wish list. Awesome.
  • 1 0
 yes, i was very interested in the 27.2 KSi7r. but ended up with the GD because despite advertising a 27.2, KS didn't offer one for sale. I guess it has taken longer to bring to market than they originally thought. I am very happy with the GD but I would have preferred the 5in drop.
  • 1 0
 Looks like this will be my post of choice... Is there any adjustable post with a decent amount of layback/offset available?
  • 2 0
 Yes, the Ks i-900r or without remote. It comes with 30mm layback.

www.kssuspension.com/en/product.asp?id=58&show_list=1

I've only been riding mine for 7 months and it's been great. The article is well written and bang on with my experience. The customer service has been great, my instruction manual was a misprint and was resolved within days!! Well worth the money!
  • 1 0
 Glad to see the Kind Shock getting the props it damn well deserves.
  • 2 1
 gravity dropper.
  • 1 0
 The problem with the gravity dropper is the ball buster effect. I've been riding a joplin 4 and had a joplin 3 for a while and these posts are really nice.
  • 3 0
 BEing an owner of a GD and a past owner of a Joplin 3, I'll take the spring to the nuts effect (never happened, but heard of this) over the poor reliability of the Joplin offerings.
  • 1 0
 The gravity dropper is so 2005.







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