The Hive acquires e.thirteen & releases DH crank
Source: The Hive
Looking forward, much from an operational standpoint will stay the same. Almost all of e*thirteen’s staff will become employees of the Hive. Some will remain in Massachusetts, while a few will make the migration to the Hive HQ in Northern California. Former e*Thirteen owner Dave Weagle, while no longer be directly involved, is a good friend and will be sharing his thoughts and ideas. The Hive’s George Dubois and Greg Thrash will competently fill Dave’s large engineering shoes. With over 20 years of engineering experience in the bike industry, George and Greg have designed products for all the familiar, big names.
Here is a closer look at this new partnership and DH Crank inside:High Performance, Reliable Products that Win
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e*thirteen wrote the book on high-performance, bombproof chain retention systems and set the bar higher still with completely revised and upgraded offerings in 2009. Their forward-thinking chain retention system designs have been the gold standard during the renaissance of gravity riding/racing and continue to be mimicked by the competition.
The Hive has received accolades in the bicycle industry for its current Fifteen.G crank, incorporating novel features that improve upon the shortcomings of competitor crank systems. Bike Magazine liked the crank so much that they awarded it the “Best New Crank” of 2009. Chub Hubs by the Hive have also garnered praise – Decline magazine called them “One of the most responsive and stiff feeling wheelsets we have ever ridden.”
Industry Leading Tech Support and Service
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Great products are only as good as the tech support and service that back them up. e*thirteen and the Hive focus heavily on customer service, including websites full of important and clearly written technical documents. We’ll continue to provide the comprehensive and personal support you’re used to from both companies.
Enhanced Distribution Network
Joining forces enables e*thirteen and the Hive to strengthen our global distribution network. Regardless of where you’re riding in the world, you can be confident that you have the support of top-level distribution networks. In the next month, www.bythehive.com will be updated with the new distributor list.
e.thirteen DH crank-
The Hive proudly announces a merger with chain retention manufacturer e*thirteen. Independently, both companies are dedicated to designing and manufacturing industry-shaping cycling components. Together, we’ll build on our shared philosophy of strong engineering principles and quality manufacturing to deliver even greater innovation to a discerning customer base. Neither company would exist without loyal customers and industry families, so we thank you for being an integral part of our progress and inspiration. In the near future, we’ll be revealing several new products to be released under a shared brand. In an effort to get you back on the bike instead of in front of the computer, we’ll keep this short and sweet: e*thirteen is integrating into the Hive, replacing the Fifteen.G Offroad product phylum. Current Fifteen.G cranks will be re-branded as e*thirteen and we’ll soon have additional product offerings under the e*thirteen offroad phylum–both gravity and XC. From here on, the Hive consists of e*thirteen Offroad, Chub Wheelgoods, and Revl Road. Since we all love to ride anything with two wheels, we are happy to offer groundbreaking products for all categories.
More details about the merger can be found on www.e13bythehive.com, an informative website specifically set up to provide the details of the merger.
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Details about the new DH crank are as follows:
e*thirteen DH Crank - Finally a lightweight DH crank without strength sacrifices.
* Forged and then machined 7050 Aluminum arms.
o 7050 is 40% stronger than most common hollow forged alloys.
* 30mm heat-treated cromoly spindle.
o It is 200%+ stiffer than 24mm steel spindles commonly used in external bearing cranksets.
* German DIN 32711-P3 Polygon interface provides 100% surface contact between spindle and crankarm
o Eliminates fretting corrosion - the prime cause of dreaded crankset creaking and loosening.
* 14mm pedal thread engagement + 7050 arm construction + quality pedal washers.
o Eliminates the need for costly and unreliable pedal thread inserts.
* High quality titanium-nickel hybrid spindle coating.
o Increases durability and extends material life (to just about forever). Tell your machinist friends. They might hug you.
* Standard 104 BCD
o Of course!
* Lengths:
o 165mm, 170mm and 175mm lengths.
* BB:
o Larger BB 6806 (7x30x42)Bearings carry 20% greater static load and dramatically increase BB durability.
o 68/73mm and 83mm BB shell versions.
* New: 24-38 Shift ringset option available.
o For you core freeriders who like to earn your downhill.
o Inner ring bolts to outer ring requiring no inner ring tabs on crank.
* Weight: 870g: Crank weight: 759g (165mm x 83mm) / BB weight 111g.
* MSRP: $349 w/BB and BB install tool.
Ring Configurations
* e*thirteen guiderings: 32-40T in one tooth increments. Available in black, silver, blue, red, green, and purple. 36-72 grams.
* 24-38 shiftrings: 9 & 10speed compatible. The 24T chainring bolts directly to the 38T chainring to optimize tooth location and provide the greatest amount of modularity and compatibility seen in a heavy duty All Mountain / race weight DH crankset. No grinding of granny tabs and eliminating front shifting options. 138 grams.
* 22-36 shiftrings: same as above, slightly lower gearing for our comrades in steeper locales. 130 grams.
Release Date: Global availability by the end of July 2010.
Looking forward, much from an operational standpoint will stay the same. Almost all of e*thirteen’s staff will become employees of the Hive. Some will remain in Massachusetts, while a few will make the migration to the Hive HQ in Northern California. Former e*Thirteen owner Dave Weagle, while no longer be directly involved, is a good friend and will be sharing his thoughts and ideas. The Hive’s George Dubois and Greg Thrash will competently fill Dave’s large engineering shoes. With over 20 years of engineering experience in the bike industry, George and Greg have designed products for all the familiar, big names.
Here is a closer look at this new partnership and DH Crank inside:High Performance, Reliable Products that Win
e*thirteen wrote the book on high-performance, bombproof chain retention systems and set the bar higher still with completely revised and upgraded offerings in 2009. Their forward-thinking chain retention system designs have been the gold standard during the renaissance of gravity riding/racing and continue to be mimicked by the competition.
The Hive has received accolades in the bicycle industry for its current Fifteen.G crank, incorporating novel features that improve upon the shortcomings of competitor crank systems. Bike Magazine liked the crank so much that they awarded it the “Best New Crank” of 2009. Chub Hubs by the Hive have also garnered praise – Decline magazine called them “One of the most responsive and stiff feeling wheelsets we have ever ridden.”
Industry Leading Tech Support and Service
Great products are only as good as the tech support and service that back them up. e*thirteen and the Hive focus heavily on customer service, including websites full of important and clearly written technical documents. We’ll continue to provide the comprehensive and personal support you’re used to from both companies.
Enhanced Distribution Network
Joining forces enables e*thirteen and the Hive to strengthen our global distribution network. Regardless of where you’re riding in the world, you can be confident that you have the support of top-level distribution networks. In the next month, www.bythehive.com will be updated with the new distributor list.
e.thirteen DH crank-
The Hive proudly announces a merger with chain retention manufacturer e*thirteen. Independently, both companies are dedicated to designing and manufacturing industry-shaping cycling components. Together, we’ll build on our shared philosophy of strong engineering principles and quality manufacturing to deliver even greater innovation to a discerning customer base. Neither company would exist without loyal customers and industry families, so we thank you for being an integral part of our progress and inspiration. In the near future, we’ll be revealing several new products to be released under a shared brand. In an effort to get you back on the bike instead of in front of the computer, we’ll keep this short and sweet: e*thirteen is integrating into the Hive, replacing the Fifteen.G Offroad product phylum. Current Fifteen.G cranks will be re-branded as e*thirteen and we’ll soon have additional product offerings under the e*thirteen offroad phylum–both gravity and XC. From here on, the Hive consists of e*thirteen Offroad, Chub Wheelgoods, and Revl Road. Since we all love to ride anything with two wheels, we are happy to offer groundbreaking products for all categories.
More details about the merger can be found on www.e13bythehive.com, an informative website specifically set up to provide the details of the merger.
Details about the new DH crank are as follows:
e*thirteen DH Crank - Finally a lightweight DH crank without strength sacrifices.
* Forged and then machined 7050 Aluminum arms.
o 7050 is 40% stronger than most common hollow forged alloys.
* 30mm heat-treated cromoly spindle.
o It is 200%+ stiffer than 24mm steel spindles commonly used in external bearing cranksets.
* German DIN 32711-P3 Polygon interface provides 100% surface contact between spindle and crankarm
o Eliminates fretting corrosion - the prime cause of dreaded crankset creaking and loosening.
* 14mm pedal thread engagement + 7050 arm construction + quality pedal washers.
o Eliminates the need for costly and unreliable pedal thread inserts.
* High quality titanium-nickel hybrid spindle coating.
o Increases durability and extends material life (to just about forever). Tell your machinist friends. They might hug you.
* Standard 104 BCD
o Of course!
* Lengths:
o 165mm, 170mm and 175mm lengths.
* BB:
o Larger BB 6806 (7x30x42)Bearings carry 20% greater static load and dramatically increase BB durability.
o 68/73mm and 83mm BB shell versions.
* New: 24-38 Shift ringset option available.
o For you core freeriders who like to earn your downhill.
o Inner ring bolts to outer ring requiring no inner ring tabs on crank.
* Weight: 870g: Crank weight: 759g (165mm x 83mm) / BB weight 111g.
* MSRP: $349 w/BB and BB install tool.
Ring Configurations
* e*thirteen guiderings: 32-40T in one tooth increments. Available in black, silver, blue, red, green, and purple. 36-72 grams.
* 24-38 shiftrings: 9 & 10speed compatible. The 24T chainring bolts directly to the 38T chainring to optimize tooth location and provide the greatest amount of modularity and compatibility seen in a heavy duty All Mountain / race weight DH crankset. No grinding of granny tabs and eliminating front shifting options. 138 grams.
* 22-36 shiftrings: same as above, slightly lower gearing for our comrades in steeper locales. 130 grams.
Release Date: Global availability by the end of July 2010.
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I'm extremely excited moving forward...these cranks are pretty slick. They're definately more than adequate for 4x through DH. There will be more installed pictures of the prototypes this weekend (US Open). Installation is insanely simple and should make chainguide installation even easier.
Cheers,
philip @ e*thirteen/the Hive (as seen above)
There was an article on pinkbike about a year ago:
brule.pinkbike.com/blog/sea-otter-hive-chub-2009.html
as for the ruktion thing, the cranks came stock on my bike, and they havent been my highest priority to replace. ive been looking at buying holzfellers, but ive already spent my money on a season pass for northstar. riding is a higher priority to me than having better components. and yes i realize that ruktion cranks break a lot which is why im replacing them as soon as i can. ruktions brake because they are a very low end crank. mid- range is the holzfeller, which is all you need, and then theres the high end range, like these new e.13 ones
If its true that they're stronger then good times :-) But I remember the same thing being said about ISIS bearings and then External bearings and the balls are still pretty small and don't last long.
I guess we will have to wait and see!
Secondly. I am not anal enough to calculate the exact ball size and number of balls from the info given to see their size compared to isis and external BBs.
If you had actually read my comment you would realise that I was merely speculating on the longevity of the bearings. I did not say that they would not be better.
Again: If they are stonger, as is stated, then this is a good thing, however, without exact measurements, it is hard to predict if they will perform better and there is absolutely no way to know for sure until said BB has been used for a long time, in real conditions of mud/rain/snow etc
...put some thought into it for a minute....
Few people know because the product has only just been released.
Whether the bearing will last longer depends on ball size (you are correct) AND sealing and other varibles like the quality of the grease.
This isn't a debate on whether bigger ball bearings are stronger or not because engineering, physics and common sense tells us that they are.
Phew, sorry for breathing.
dont appoligise for breating, do it cause your a dick.
25x37x7 (6805) VS. 30×42x7 (6806).......there is nothing to speculate or debate.....or get offended over
So after all that debate, what you're trying to say is that the ball bearings are exactly the same size in both traditional external BBs and the new Hive/E13 item?
Sorry for being a dick, but seriously, maybe you need to stop jumping down peoples throats everytime they comment.
It's all in the numbers. the first number (25/30) is the ID of the bearing, the second number (37/42) is the OD and the third number (7) is the bearing diameter.
Enduro bearings use a smaller 24mm ID and mount directly onto the axle (instead of using that plastic spacer).
The main thing is ball size, not the amount of balls. Amount of balls has no bearing (pun lol) on the load they're capable of holding and their durability, as only a small amount of said balls are being used at any one time.
dynamic load- static load
6805: 968lb 660lb
6806: 1010lb 770lb
this will vary slightly by bearing type, but the fact that all of you are wrong still remains.
68 defines the series of ball bearing and its width. In this case a "thin cross section" deep grove ball bearing. Most likely this bearing has a steel cage and a standard amount of rolling elements. There are bearings manufactured with a filling slot to add another ball for extra load, these are called "Conrad" deep grove ball bearings. The amount of balls does have a bearing on the load they can handle, think about standing on one egg shell, or two or more. The load is spread out more evenly. The addition of the extra ball(haha) is done during the manufacturing process. Load ratings do increase with bore size.
05 defines the bearings bore of 25mm. Notice how bearing part numbers increase in 5mm increments. Pretty simple.
Here are designations for internal clearance. These designations are .C2, .C3, .C4 and so on. .C2 means there is a lower than normal clearance between the rolling elements (balls) and the races, hence a precision ball bearing. Then .C3 and so on means there is a greater clearance to allow for heat expansion of the rolling elements in a given application. As the number grows the clearance grows.
Deep grove radial ball bearings can withstand very high radial loads (Perpendicular to the shaft) and moderate axial loads (parallel to the shaft). The factors in determining the bearing life in the said application is: Environment, installation, steel quality. Other than that the bearings should last the same as any other deep grove ball bearing put into service. If manufacturers wanted the bearings to last forever, the could use a cylindrical ball bearing, complimented by a needle thrust bearing. Way too much over kill though, they want you to have to replace bearings at some point.
Hope that helps at least a bit.
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