Video: When Does Your Helmet Go From Functioning To Failure? | Pinkbike Weekly Show Ep. 13

Feb 7, 2024
by Pinkbike Originals  

This week on the Pinkbike Weekly Show, Christina and Henry catch you up on the latest news stories, including team changes and tech. Then they touch on the Pinkbike Podcast episode where the guys talk about their dream bikes, and round it off with Recreational Wrecks, aka helmet lifespans, and 2 Min of Tech where Henry shares his current bike in for long-term testing.

0:18 - Latest News
3:21 - Pinkbike Podcast, tech editors edition
5:42 - Recreational Wrecks
8:53 - 2 Min of Tech

Let us know what your dream bike was when you first go into mountain biking or even what you're drooling over now!







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  • 18 0
 Impacts notwithstanding, here's some lab data about real, used and old helmets being tested for their performance vs age: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26902784
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10439-017-1842-4

To quote the abstract:
"The age-related differences were also less than the variability observed between different helmets after accounting for style, size and certification effects. These findings mean that bicycle helmets (up to 26-year-old traditional helmets and 13-year-old BMX helmets) do not lose their ability to attenuate impacts with age"
AKA, you will see greater difference in the performance of different styles of helmet than the difference attributed to aging.

My take, if the helmet shows no signs of degradation AND has not had significant impacts, it hasn't gotten much worse than it was when you bought it. It's possible the performance of an old helmet was just not very good to start with and upgrading to newer would yield better saety..
  • 11 0
 If you’re going to pitch it anyway, cut it in half and take a peek! Maybe put it on a shelf as a display
  • 7 1
 That's not a bad idea!
  • 4 2
 Nice option! Sounds like a fun project anyhow LOL
  • 1 1
 Second!
  • 2 0
 i have my Leatt full face helmet that i was wearing when i crashed and got concussed. shell is split the full way around. i keep it to remind myself of what could have happened.
  • 5 0
 I’m with Henry — it seems a crying shame to throw out a helmet that looks perfectly fine. It really pains me because it seems like such a waste. BUT … I’m not taking chances with my head. At a minimum I’ll replace it every 5 years. If I suspect I need to, I’ll go more frequently.
  • 4 1
 I had a Specialized ff helmet from 2008 (the infamous Bearclaw edition!) until lately, but overall I did use it about twice a year and else kept it stored dry and dark. Why should it degrade??

There should be some real world testing of helmets from 3,5, and 10yrs ago, properly used, to today's standards, to take the guessing out.
Helmets I bought often were 2-3yrs old when I bought them new - sat in a shop on a shelf or whatever. If they would degrade so fast that they wouldnt protect after 5yrs, then I would have to bin them every 2yrs - with new helmets around 100 - 250€ this is unrealistic.
  • 1 0
 In motorsports, the FIA introduced a 5-year or even less rule-system a few years ago for harnesses, seats and other safety items. For certain classes, national regs would extend the allowed lifespan. This applies to lower-level racing, top flight championships have their own rules.

Interestingly, an independent testing unit (think it was in Austraila) did a lab test of brand new, 5 year, 10 year and 15 year old used harnesses - and could not find any degradation whatsoever.

I'm a lot more worried about mech sloppiness. Dropping it on the floor, scuffing with tools, cleaning with solvents etc. All of those can degrade the gear just as much as a crash. For MTB, I change my lids every 2-3 years if no crashes. I do have a full face which is 5 years now, but I've worn it 5-6 times and never bumped it. I still think it offers better protection than a brand new XC helmet.
  • 5 0
 @knutspeed: FIA has the same regs for auto and to be honest, I'm pretty sure that's nothing more than a scam to help manufacturers sell more product. That independent testing confirms that.
  • 3 0
 @ChrisNJ: Nail, head.
Seen my share of tech inspectors obsessing over date stamps, not giving a lot of attention to other far more potentially serious issues.
  • 3 0
 I love this show, Thank you PB !!!!
- I keep my helmets 2-3 years (Daily Driver), if a mayor crash happens the is done.
- I have a DH that is 5 yrs old only used occasionally.
- When I started riding in 2015, I drool over the SC bronson in a tennis green
  • 1 0
 That bike was so hot, I still see so many around Whistler. Thanks for the feedback!
  • 3 0
 my first dream MTB was that 1993 world champ DH bike, the Manitou FS, the one Beneke rocked to glory. Got it in '94 when I started uni and convinced my folks I'd rather shred trails than drive a car after getting my license.
  • 3 1
 Love the commitment!!
  • 3 0
 @christinachappetta: recently I got it back again from my lbs trade it for design work... happy a second time 30 year later Smile www.pinkbike.com/photo/18204859
  • 1 0
 @brajal: What a beauty!
  • 4 0
 It seems like electronic shifting could solve a lot of complaints about gearboxes - I wonder why it took so long. I'll be interested to see the review
  • 3 0
 Re: Helmet destruction. Perhaps check and see if local first responder training centre(s) can use the helmet.. Having access to current equipment would only benefit accident simulation.
  • 1 0
 Geat idea for sure! Thank you.
  • 2 1
 I generally change helmets once they get to two years old, I travel a lot so even if they have had no real impacts. They knocked about a little bit and although not an issue really, my feeling is over time it degrades the safety functionality of the helmet. If the helmet does appear to be all good I'll generally try and give away to a beginner or someone on a budget, helmets are pricey! Any significant crashes or impacts then the helmet goes straight in the bin!
  • 3 0
 Love the Stevie Smith framed picture in the background! Long Live Chainsaw!
  • 2 0
 1998 Litespeed Unicoi with 8-speed 950XTR, Mavic CrossMax, RockShox SID and Syncros Ti post. Don't forget the ti railed Flite saddle.
  • 2 0
 enduro helmets dont do what we need them to in big crashes. Im going to switch back
  • 2 0
 I replaced my commuter helmet after the pads disintegrated because it was full of holes from magpie strikes.
  • 1 0
 Reason 375 to wear a helmet.
  • 2 0
 Don't buy a second hand helmet..
  • 3 1
 when does my riding go from bumbling to pinkbike presenter?
  • 1 0
 @yeoldehardtail: Truthful information and reasonable prices for what you actually get.
  • 2 0
 Riveting
  • 1 0
 A gear box is a friction box
  • 2 0
 Life is a compromise ,as is Bicycle design . There is added drag over a derailer and chain. But it is not as bad as people think for normal riding and is way less that the difference in wearing tight fitting clothes vs untucked loose flappy clothes. Riding uphill in granny gear has a lot more chain friction than riding in first gear with its straight chain line.
Pointing downhill the suspension advantages may or may not make you faster.
Sprinting has the gearbox at a disadvantage as friction increases the faster you pedal . But for normal riding does the difference make a difference.??
For some, the low cost and ease of maintenance will make a big difference. And will be more appealing now a non grip twist shift is available.
  • 1 0
 @gcrider: Low cost and ease of maintenance is hopeful but unproven. Gear boxes have been around for a long time and have been neither of those things.
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