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Hopefully they'll make a wind powered one for us up here in Scotland

@groghunter: but, from my understanding is you remove the UDH to fit the SRAM type-t derailleur... so in essence when you remove it you're left with a hole that's 'x' big and you tighten it up... surely you cant copyright a hole in a frame? Shimano could make the way it tightens up slightly different but it wouldn't be infringing the UDH as its not used?

@notthatfast: Motors aren't exclusively electric, they can be internal combustion as well. hence why just about anything powered by an engine is preceded by motor... motor vehicle, motorbike, motorcar, motorboat, motorhome... etc. Its a device which converts a form of energy into mechanical energy to produce motion, be it electricity or fuel. source: any dictionary

https://noblwheels.com/blog/actual-hub-weights/#Hope

@cyclopathic-uk: 180g difference? A Hope 148 boost 6 bolt XD Drive is 305g You’re telling me a 240S in the same spec is 125g? I don’t think so. But from my looking about online a 240S or 240 in the same setup is around the 230g mark… I’ll hand it 75g is decent. but would probably pay the 70g price for a decent sounding hub. Talking about real world price not RRP? A 240S looks discontinued from what I can see I did see one reduced at £266… and a new 240 the cheapest I’ve found on a quick look is £233 that’s not including your £50 ratchet ‘upgrade’ A quick search of a pro4 first 3 websites are selling them for £120 Even the £180 rrp is cheaper than your discounted 240 As for sealing… a little black o-ring around the freehub body is hardly brilliant, every wheelset I’ve used which comes standard on bikes and has little seals like that the bearings are always shot a year or so down the line. I’ve had multiple Hope hubs now and I’ve yet to do a bearing change… in fact I’m dying to do one just so I can see how hard/easy the process is. It’s the same with their headsets every oem headset has rubbish sealing for British weather and a year down the line they’re rough and done for… replace with hopes and I’m waiting for the day they give up. Here’s some weight comparisons …still not seen a single rear 240 hub below 200g or at a difference of 180g

@cyclopathic-uk: pro4 are heavy hubs? There’s like a 35g difference between a pro4 and a 350 not exactly ludicrous. Sealing is much better on Hope hubs much better suited for British slop. I didn’t notice much sealing at all on 350s There’s no proprietary tools at all for a pro4 …you can get hub support tools but they aren’t necessary. Unlike the 350s which actually do need a proprietary tool to do a bearing change. As for cheaper, 350s RRP I think they’re £10 cheaper but you have 18 POE …so have to get an 54t ‘upgrade kit’ at £80 just to bring them up to a similar level to a pro4.

I went from F20s to Burgtec Penthouse Mk5s and the difference is huge.... I now run Burgtec on all my bikes they're are hands down the best pedal I've run so far.

hate to "brake" it to you... but a "Hope tech pro 4" is a hub not a brake. haha... Hope tech 4 V4/E4 is a brake.

@danstonQ: I was at this race on my steel bike - Curtis Thumpercross. check out my album for pics :D