First Ride: We Are One's Prototype Downhill Bike - Crankworx Whistler 2023

Jul 29, 2023 at 12:55
by Matt Beer  
We Are One Prototype DH Bike. Photo credit Aedan Skinner

When you manufacture your own carbon rims and handlebars, holding variables constant, such as the frame, are critical to learning how they ride on the trail, and not just in the lab. We Are One built this prototype downhill bike to serve as a baseline for developing future components that meet their expectations. This frame isn’t slated for production, but I couldn’t pass up riding such a unique bike when offered the opportunity.

Earlier in the week, we covered the a First Look of the prototype and caught a glimpse of their latest downhill product: a direct mount stem where the individual arms can be rearranged to achieve two levels of steering stiffness. You can check out more detailed photos of the frame and stem here.

We Are One Prototype DH Details

• Made in Kamloops, CAN
• Carbon front and rear triangles
• Dual link suspension design
• 29er or mixed wheeled configurations
• Travel: 215mm rear / 200mm front
• Head angle: 62.8°
• Reach: 480mm
• Chainstay: 455mm
• Weight: N/A
We Are One hadn’t weighed the bike but I can say that after a rudimentary arm curl test, I can confidently say that it's not heavy. Of course, the build consisted of their own bar, stem, and rims. The rims used their Convergence-style asymmetrical shape in a new carbon layup to meet the resist the impacts of downhill racing. SRAM and Maxxis rounded out the rest of the component, including the new Boxxer Ultimate and a Super Deluxe Coil that was specifically tuned for the leverage ratio.

We Are One Components Prototype Downhill Bike
The freshly machined stem was mounted in the narrow, more compliant setting. To gain more stiffness from the system, the arms can be toggled but they will require a new downhill specific carbon bar and the special stress-reducing aluminum sleeve.

We Are One Prototype DH Bike. Photo credit Aedan Skinner

Ride Impressions

Before setting off, a 450 lb/in spring was installed on the rear shock and the fork pressure was set to 155 psi, as recommended. The reach on the prototype frame is fixed at 480mm, which is on the larger side in my preference for downhill bikes. With a soft fork and firm spring, I found that my weigh distribution was too far forward, making the bike feel even longer as the fork sunk in the travel. A few turns and bounces in the parking lot led me to insist on firming up the fork to 170 psi. That relaxed the position and set my stance further behind the front wheel.

Off the hop, I noticed how the bike didn’t sink deep in the travel, yet still felt settled and balanced. If you’ve ever ridden an enduro bike in a bike park, you know the benefit of the reduced travel and snappier feel it has over a pure downhill bike. This proto had elements of that “alive” ride, much like the Arrival platform. It could dance through slow-speed tech and generate speed by pumping over rollers, yet there’s still serious muscle when you open it up through G-outs and across rocky chunder.

We Are One Prototype DH Bike. Photo credit Aedan Skinner
We Are One Prototype DH Bike. Photo credit Aedan Skinner
A "poppy" and "plow-like" bike? Those terms get thrown too often and can larger be dictated by suspension setup. We Are One's prototype was both light on its toes and composed in those moments that require a tighter grip on the bars.

To give you an idea of how the suspension reacts, you could almost separate into two stages - small bumps and big compressions, similar to what I found on the Atherton AM.200M.1. First, the leverage ratio on this We Are One proto drops rapidly into the first third of the travel to absorb slippery roots and loose marbles. As the leverage curve flattens out through the rest of the travel, this allows the rider to predict and trust that the bike won’t kick back aggressively on heavy compressions from an overly enthusiastic progression curve.

Another theory We Are One shared was how they aimed to keep the balance between the front and rear centers from changing drastically as the suspension compresses. Compared to a high pivot design, this keeps the rider’s weight centered between the axles. Not all riders get along with those high pivot bikes and their rearward axle paths as their center of mass can be pushed forward as the suspension compresses.

Even through the roughest braking bumps and nasty rocks in Whistler’s Garbanzo zone, the only sound that you hear comes from the tires. Under braking, your weight doesn’t pitch forward, yet the suspension keeps the wheels on the ground. There’s zero cable noises or chain feedback - I could almost be fooled into thinking there wasn’t a chain on this carbon test sled.

The whole ride is extremely neutral, silent, and supple. From the first few turns I understood the balance of the bike and kept gaining confidence. Too bad it’s just a proto at this point because I’d love to spend more time aboard this carbon machine.

We Are One Prototype DH Bike. Photo credit Aedan Skinner


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45 Comments
  • 50 0
 I stopped by the WAO tent at Crankworx on Thursday near the end of the day. If the WAO people read this, give Ben a raise. After a full day in the sun setting people up with demos he was still smiling and super welcoming. The guy's a star.
  • 52 1
 We love Ben as much as anyone does. He’s a huge part of our success and company culture. Big Ben fans as well!!!
  • 32 0
 @WeAreOne: sooooooooooo howboutdah raise?
  • 51 1
 make it. just like that one.
  • 4 1
 The same
  • 3 2
 If they release a DH bike that’s “not heavy”, they might have to rethink their warranty
  • 26 2
 I still don’t get why the industry had the great idea to create 35mm handlebars instead of making the stem clamp wider… and then try the impossible to make those 35mm bars feel like a 31.8. Sounds like a big fail to me.
  • 3 0
 I also am mystified by this insanity. Like, literally every carbon 35mm bar is working on more compliance, when a 31.8 has that as a natural feature.
  • 2 4
 Agree, and it also read like the stem used here has a proprietary design. "Stress reducing aluminum sleeve" - no thanks.
  • 13 1
 With how nicely this thing was reviewed, I'm surprised it doesn't also climb like a goat. It sure does look great though, so I could be convinced into thinking that it might just be that good.
  • 13 0
 I’m surprised Matt is still willing to hop on a prototype DH bike after the last one.
  • 1 0
 What happened?
  • 8 0
 That picture of the top-down angle of the headset looks super nice. Sick looking frame, bars, stem, and fork!
  • 4 0
 It's really just that new Boxxer drawing all your attention to
  • 9 0
 Looks like a ... Gnarvana?
  • 6 0
 why are there so many dh bikes that nobody can buy?
  • 1 1
 Truth, excluding dtc dh bikes, even the non-prototype dh bikes can’t be found.
  • 9 0
 Because while DH racing is cool and full of development, it’s not a huge market segment.

Same reason for race cars that you’ll never see sold.
  • 1 3
 made this comment two days ago and was downvoted to hell. fickle AI readership
  • 1 0
 "Another theory We Are One shared was how they aimed to keep the balance between the front and rear centers from changing drastically as the suspension compresses. Compared to a high pivot design, this keeps the rider’s weight centered between the axles. Not all riders get along with those high pivot bikes and their rearward axle paths as their center of mass can be pushed forward as the suspension compresses."

I have a HP bike and love it, but it did take me a little while to get used to it, and I think there's a solid portion of the market that wouldn't want to take the time to get used to the weight shift as you go through your travel. So it's cool to see that there's brands focusing on that balance. After all, there's more than one way to skin a cat.
  • 1 0
 Played with this bike a little last week, what an awesome machine. I have to say the crew at WAO are all super friendly and knowledgeable. The Arrival 170 is in my final two for a new bike; just have to drag my ass to Kamloops to test ride the beast.
  • 1 0
 What's option 2?
  • 5 2
 Tell me that you like specialized demo (2016) without telling me that you like specialized demo...
  • 9 4
 bias much?
  • 4 0
 put water bottle on DH bike and call it park version
  • 9 0
 Honestly please. As a park rat I still need to drink something non alcoholic!!
  • 5 1
 Looks like an old lapierre
  • 4 1
 as beautiful as the arrival is, to me something‘s wrong with this one.
  • 3 0
 Easy. It’s just a prototype.
  • 2 0
 At first glance, it reminds me of the Valds frame from Easy Composites
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWSePEV88tw
  • 2 0
 Let’s go we are one. DH is life
  • 2 3
 “ Compared to a high pivot design, this keeps the rider’s weight centered between the axles”. Unless the HA is 90 deg, the front/center is shrinking dramatically under compression.
  • 7 0
 Right but on a high pivot, the rear axle and front axle both move back on compression so the riders cog is suddenly biased forward over the front axle. On a non high pivot the rear axle moves up/forward towards the rider and the front moves up/back towards the rider so the rider stays more neutral, the wheelbase shrinks but the position between axles stays roughly the same.
  • 2 0
 It does not look like a session.
  • 3 1
 Lapierre
  • 1 0
 I want a 240 dropper on my DH bike
  • 2 0
 There are a few out there that can do 175-200. Not sure about 240....are you 6'6"?
  • 1 0
 Reminds me of a reeaally old bike but I can't think what?
  • 1 1
 That angle of the seat tube though ...
  • 2 0
 It's a DH bike. Who cares about seat post angle?
  • 1 2
 I need one of those direct mount stems for my new build!
  • 4 4
 Boh, nothing new







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