tom666

@justwan-naride: I definitely couldn't do one 6,000M elevation day, never mind 3 in a row + difficult terrain + the sleep deprivation + the "self supported" element of it + the bad weather. It's insane.

What will the prices be in EUR and GBP?

19,000M elevation and only 7 hours sleep total in 3.5 days is beyond the comprehension of most people. Honestly I'm pretty knackered after a 2,000M elevation day and I probably sleep for 8-10 hours after such a big ride :lol:

And bar ends, and 50mm rise bars

I'm hard. Are you not hard?

Here's a bit of insight ISO4210 is the international standard that all bikes are tested to as a baseline. It was last revised in 2023. This test does actually require a bike to be very strong, the horizontal push/pull tests in particular are brutal. If you don't test to this standard and your bike fails with a customer on, your defence lawyer is going to have a hell of a time. It might also be hard to get a bike through customs into some countries or to sell in certain retailers without evidence you tested to or beyond ISO 4210. Kids bikes like these 24 and 26" bikes have to get tested to the same standard as an adults bike (that a 240lb man would ride). There is no lower international standard for kids/teenagers bikes. There is a standard ISO 8098 which is for like ~16" wheel kids bikes and below, but for a 20, 24 or 26" kids bikes it has to meet adults standards - and that's why a lot of kids bikes are super overbuilt!

@theguideshut: Sometimes it isn't cost effective or necessary to completely re-develop a small product for Lamborghini or Bugatti etc - airbag, windscreen wiper motor etc. It's actually better to use something that is proven and commonly available for spares. But you wouldn't make the Lamborghini share the gearbox or the 2.0 diesel engine from a Passat because you have some leftover... You wouldn't change the most important component of a Santa Cruz bike (the frame) to use up some GT spares. Particularly when you have Focus and Cannondale.