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Totem/Lyrik Floodgate Mod

Quick vid for removal of floodgate feature of Mission control (non DH) dampers. Increases small bump sensitivity.

86 Comments

  • + 8
 You should make instructional videos for a living, Colin. Very polished and well done.
  • + 2
 Thanks Rob!
  • + 4
 I'd recommend this mod to EVERYONE available that doesn't use there lockout. Night and day different. Leaves you speechless with stained undies.
  • + 1
 so whats the difrents? like exsplain to me what the benafits are? becase i kinda wanna do it to my fork
  • + 2
 Without the floodgate, the oil can flow through quicker. Nothing obstructing its path
  • + 1
 nice so its plusher?
  • + 1
 very nice! now is there a way to make the fork stiffer at all? with out changeing springs? but still keep the buttery smoth feel
  • + 2
 Up the low speed compression?
  • + 1
 can you do this to 426 Pikes? it has a floodgate on the lockout, but the knobs dont look like the lyriks.
  • + 2
 No. Mission control setups only.
  • + 1
 thanks
  • + 1
 just seen this after having a look around for Totem things... is it worth doing and how much of a difference does it actually make, in terms of fast repetitive braking bumps?!... I was getting major arm pump on the last uplift day I went too!
  • + 1
 crap, now I need some help!
I just did this to my '08 totem, but I have a problem (actually, I think I managed to strip the floodgate screw too, but since it has no function anymore, that's not a problem I guess).
The thing is that after mounting everything again, both of the knobs, HSC and LSC, move together no matter what. I tried to force them slightly, holding one and moving the other, with no result.
What could I have messed up in the process? and how to fix it??
It make no sense to me...
  • + 1
 oh, and thanks a lot! just came back from a test ride and the improvement is obvious, despite the detail of the LSC knob
  • + 1
 Nice little video. I did this about a year ago on my fork and just did it on the girlfriend's. This was way easier than digging through 200 MTBR posts and going by pictures. If you have not done this, do it. I hope the girlfriend does not notice, or it will be one of those, "you did this to your bike a year ago and just got to mine" moments.
  • + 1
 Wow i totally wish i had a bike bitch who knew as much as you do and who would be willing to do this and many other repairs and mods to my bike. It's an 09 Norco Hostage. You know it?
  • + 1
 All your Shore are belong to Hum.
  • + 1
 Erm ok, well can i have it back sometime? With saints please Smile
  • + 1
 Saint brakes, or cranks? :-o
  • + 1
 Just brakes. Unless you want the hs?
  • + 1
 I dont want it, that things heavy!
  • + 1
 Shhhhhhhh!

lol
Alright, smash it back on there.
  • + 2
 Great vid. Thanks.
More vids on mods pls!
Would love to see vids on modding internal ('fixed') floodgates, upgrading dampers in other forks, all that jazz.
Tx again.
  • + 1
 Thanks, any particular requests?
  • + 1
 Specific suggestions? Here are two.
How about adjusting a Reba Team dual air from 100mm to 80mm or 120mm travel?
Aftermarket comes w spacer and there is one inside already. No info on process though.

How about slapping a BlackBox damper - maybe from Reba - (modded if there is an improvement to be made), w poplock adjust, into a Recon U-turn?

Would prob need dif oil vol in damper leg. Perhaps whilst we're at it a dif weight oil would be better for a lighter or heavier rider than the SRAM design ideal.
  • + 1
 Why do it? There are reasons.
RS don't make a fork w 2-step and mission control (like our Lyriks) that will fit on a 'normal' bike that 30yo ladies ride. My Mrs is not going to go big or ride a big bike like me. But she would still benefit greatly from 2-step above U-turn, from dual compression circuits in the Blackbox MC damper versus the regular motion control, also external FG, poplock adjust etc.
A lyrik is not going to suit her bike. And at 100lbs body-weight, esp considering her lack of aggression and relatively low speeds, she doesnt need 32mm stancs never mind 36mm! Or 160mm travel.
But she DOES ride steep rough trails (up and down) in real mtns....
2-step and Mission Control are both great.
There are reasons to do stuff like this.
Avoids buying a Talas until RS has a chance to provide a 2-step MC that does not force ladies to ride 36mm stancs and 160mm+ travel in order to get the same func as their other halves. Or to buy Fox.
Of course she is never going to get 2-step by modding the damper on a Recon U-turn! But it would perform better - until the two-step + MC does appear in a form factor that suits her bike/weight/riding.
A 32mm Stanc'd 90-135mm 2-step MC Reba. Perrrrfect (for her trailbike) whilst I enjoy the Lyrik. What is good for her is good for me, cos me and the Lyrik spend less time stationary waiting for her! Lol.
So, would like to mod the Recon if pos to achieve better performance. Well, at least external gate, (or mod to internal), pref dual circuits.
And the Reba is sitting idle without travel adjust. But, make it 120mm and it has a use on a project.
Thanks again. Love the Lyrik mod.
  • + 1
 I just did it to my solo air 09 Totem it is 5-minute of work. and it is great.
Do u guys know how many oil is in the right leg of totems? i guess 5W ?
  • + 1
 If I do this mod, does it reset my current hi and low speed setup? Or do I have to redo them again since the mod would change how the fork reacts? Thanks!
  • + 1
 Wow can't wait to do this mod. The lower bushings seem to be going in my Totems, is this job possible at home? Tech Tuesday possibly?
  • + 1
 Tech Tuesday? More like a "Help from Hum"
  • + 1
 Bushings need special tools, they arent cheap either. Sorry.
  • + 1
 I just realized you are the Tech Tuesday...

And I was looking forward to something I didn't already know Frown
  • + 1
 this mod rocks! dude I need a new fork. Oregon and Washington shredding have beat the hell out of my Lyric. Got any Totem Solo Air's lying around you may wanna sell?
  • + 1
 I have an ask around for ya... whats the story on the lyrik?
  • + 1
 I can't afford a DH bike so I just want something BIGGER with more G I R T H
  • + 1
 The Lyriks fine. Changed the oil a few times, stanchions are pristine... stickers scratched from crashes here and there.

You should see Gordo on his Big Hit Grom, he cold turkey's every drop he can find lol. I always ask him if he wants to scope out the landing first and all I get is "Naa! I'll just do it."
  • + 1
 Kid has balls. Its absurd lol
  • + 1
 If we ever meet, beers are on me! The mod is easy to perform after watching the video. There is no bad surprise. The fork is way way better now! THANKS
  • + 2
 Great video mate!! you did a wonderful job giving great explanation on how to accomplish this task!! RideOn!
  • + 1
 So doing this mod essentially eliminates the need to swap out to the Mission Control DH damper?
Thanks
  • + 2
 Probably a stupid question but does this apply to the lyrik 2 step?
  • + 2
 Doesnt have anything to do with the spring side, only damper. Theyre completely separate, so yes, this applies to ALL types of lyrik/totem, as long as they have the mission control damper.
  • + 2
 Thanks alot, this is exactly what my lyrik needs
  • + 2
 love my totems, thanks 4 hop up guys !
  • + 1
 Great vid thanks! Don't suppose you've got a link to any videos explaining servicing+replacing seals? Cheers!
  • + 1
 how much oil needs to be added after removal of the floodgate from lyrik uturn 160mm?
  • + 1
 wait so this will increase small bumpss? good for breaking bumps?? could i do this if i ride dh or no..
  • + 1
 Thanks a lot, just removed that thing. Hopefully gonna see how it works this weekend Wink
  • + 1
 Good work! Totems are so easy to work on and maintain. Gonna try this out on mine. Thanks!
  • + 1
 I just found some work I can do on my Lyric this weekend. Good vid, and thanks!
  • + 1
 I wondered if you had any idea if this mod works on newer Lyriks. I have the 2012 version. Cheers.
  • + 1
 It does. I tried it. Brilliant thanks.
  • + 2
 i did it my fork feels way better
  • + 1
 Do I need to raise the floodgate adjustment screw back up after completing the mod? Does it make a difference at that point.
  • + 1
 Cant wait to do this to my fork
  • + 1
 is there any mod i can do to the lyrik dfr model?
  • + 1
 i might do this to my lyrik 2 step air will it make a big difference
  • + 1
 Huge. Not as big as ditching that 2 step cartridge and going to u-turn coil though...same weight, just much better responsiveness.
  • + 1
 Thanks man good to hear I looked into coil u turn but tf tuned charge 170 fitted and serviced so might try this for now
  • + 1
 good stuff.. gave it a go, and my fork feels butter now.. thanks!
  • + 1
 The dogfish head 90 minute ipa is a mandatory tool for bike work!
  • + 1
 Only went thru one, vid took so little time to do!
  • + 1
 does this mod make it have better small bump sensitivity??
  • + 1
 ok thanks!
  • + 1
 is this worth doing in my rcd2dh lyriks(2012 damper)?
  • + 1
 Yer i just don't get it. Doesn't make any sense without a neck beard Razz
  • + 1
 You should see it today... no neck beard and hair shaved off! Nobodys recognizing me. Incognito suckas!
  • + 2
 Slick. All aerodynamic like
  • + 1
 this is only for totem solo air or coil too?
  • + 1
 Works for any spring type.
  • + 1
 Bookmarked Beer
  • + 1
 why does it say non dh ?
  • + 1
 Because the DH damper doesnt have the floodgate already.
  • + 1
 is that the one which is called the mission control dh or only the new rc2 dh? sorry to be exceedingly stupid...
  • + 1
 Both. Neither have a floodgate.
  • + 1
 sweet, thanks
  • + 1
 what do you mean
  • + 1
 Good to see you walking.
  • + 2
 Thanks, its not comfy at all yet, but wasnt rockin my cane in a pb vid :p
  • + 1
 How is the atrophy? You getting anywhere near "normal" strength yet?
  • + 1
 Still visibly smaller when its not all swollen hahah, but gonna try to ride "DH" in the next few weeks... been training hard, so hoping for the best!
  • + 1
 Cool! Bet you can't wait!

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