Prototype Ragley and Nukeproof - Eurobike 2011

Aug 30, 2011
by Alasdair MacLennan  
Dropping in at the Hotlines stand today gave us a look at two new Ragley full suspension frames as well as some neat options from Nukeproof. Both Ragleys fit in with their philosophy of big travel at the front matched with relatively short travel at the rear. Given that both of these are prototypes the final geometry isn’t yet set in stone, but the general bias is towards a longer top tube, steep seat tube to benefit climbing and a slack head angle for ripping the descents. The parallel link design is utilized across both bikes and features a floating shock, the rear end has plenty of bracing for stiffness and both front ends have a taper headtube and ISCG mounts. In short they appear to have all the expected features of the modern trail bike as well as a few neat Ragley touches. If that translates into bikes that ride as good as they look then they could well be onto a winner.


Let’s start with the 10-4, the shorter travel of their two new bikes. With 100mm out back balanced with 140mm up front their idea behind this is to keep the bikes riding with the sharpness and response associated with short travel, but matched with the confidence and attacking nature of the bigger bikes. By building around a longer travel, burlier fork, but less travel at the back they feel they have achieved this successfully.


Ragley 10-4 details:

• 67deg head angle
• ISCG chain guide mounts
• 100mm rear travel / 140mm front travel
• Dropper post cable guides as standard
• Taper headtube

The other bike on display was the G6. With exactly the same design philosophy this has been extended out to 130mm at the back and 160mm at the front. Being that the full bike comes equipped with 1x10, X0 drive train and a RockShox Lyric fork points to its descending, but with the theory that it sacrifices less than the longer rear travel bikes on the climbs. We can’t wait to put this to the test.


Ragley G6 details:

• 66 deg head angle
• ISCG chain guide mounts
• 130mm rear travel / 160mm front travel
• Dropper post cable guides as standard
• Taper headtube




Wander round to the opposite side of the stand and you were at the home of Nukeproof. These frames were first featured in their production specs here twelve months ago and have been available to purchase for some time. What’s now on offer though are full build packages in two levels across their three bikes; the Snap (4x), the Mega (big hit, all mountain) and the Scalp (World Cup level downhill).


The two we looked at were the two top spec ‘Pro’ Mega and Scalp. Featuring X0, top level RockShox forks and a Cane Creek Double Barrel shock in the case of the Scalp, these provide no holds barred componentry, all finished off of course with Nukeproof’s ever expanding range of components for the cockpit and wheels. The lower level Comp package will be a mixture of X9 gearing, the same Nukeproof finishing package and a Vivid in the case of the Scalp, a lower spec Monarch in the case of the Mega.


The best thing about these new full build bikes are the prices. Although the final prices are yet to be confirmed, the target prices are quite frankly superb given the price of current top end bikes. The Pro Scalp, spec’d with World Cup Boxxers and all that mentioned above is aiming to be on target at £3500, the Comp model at £2500. Now given that these are all proven parts, attached to a proven World Cup raced frame piloted for the 2011 season by Team ChainReactionCycles, the price certainly makes you sit up and take notice. Although these are yet to be finalized to the last degree it certainly displays the intention to undercut the big competition and hopefully allow more people to get into the sport on a new bike, at a lower price.


The Mega is no less competitive. Again, the Pro model comes with top spec RockShox suspension, X0 and Nukeproof parts, while the Comp model still produces huge bang for buck with the slightly cheaper although still equally functional X9 and slightly downgraded suspension. The prices (again, not quite confirmed) are £3200 for the Pro and £2000 for the Comp. These UK prices are certainly providing some very sharp competition to some very established names in the industry and there should be some applause for the attempt as it makes the sport a bit less expensive if you like to have high quality componentry on your ride.


What do you think of these latest frames from Ragley and full build options from Nukeproof? We’d love to hear your views below.



69 Comments

  • 81 2
 It may be nuke proof.. But will it blend?
  • 8 0
 haha, made my day :p
  • 2 0
 blendtec ftw
  • 3 0
 It should be interesting to see how much the prices are on the Nuke Proof especially on the Scalp DH since all of the spec ( or close ) is from Nuke Proof

Want my hands on one !!
  • 2 1
 Nukeproof have my babies!
  • 2 0
 Don't know if it'll blend but it will shred:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JUBBEhrvfc
  • 8 0
 The Mega and G6 look spot on. Dropper post and chaindevice as standard is a good move.

Any reason the Ragleys have more travel on the front than the back?
  • 3 0
 Like said in the article, it's to make the bikes nice on the climb, but still able to take a bit more beating on the descent. When climbing, since the bike's front end is more elevated compared to the back, you're weight is on the rear wheel alot more giving you a lot more traction.
  • 12 0
 the Ragleys have less travel on the back to make then feel sharper, more responsive and pedal well while having a bigger fork to give you confidence to attack the downhill, as it said above basically the bike goes both up and down very well, i reckon its a great idea.
  • 2 3
 Great idea if you don't ride a lot of super gnarly descents that use the rear travel. For most AM applications shorter travel is the way to go.
  • 3 0
 I dunno man, I used to ride south moutain (one nonstop rock garden) in PHX AZ on a hardtail with a 7" dual crown, and I could keep up pretty decently. Ok, so that all ended when I broke my foot lol, But point is you can do a LOT on a hardtail with a decent fork. Case in point:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SppBADbcFr4&feature=autoplay&list=PL0C956409F6F947BB&playnext=2

So put a *little* bit of give in the rear, and I really think you could rock the shit outta that thing damn near anywhere
  • 5 0
 i second maglor. been waiting for some short travel AM frames. I like running 140-150mm forks, but don't want to run that much travel in the back.
  • 1 0
 this guy is on a hard tail and nothing really stops him http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/3502396/
  • 1 0
 i dont say this often, if at all, but id love to give those ragleys a ride
  • 1 0
 will the ragleys be available in the US?
  • 1 0
 Seems unlikely. They'd make sense here though. You can do anything on a hard tail you can do on a full suspension. Your body makes a good spring. That doesn't mean it is going to feel as nice though.
  • 1 0
 I guess we could get them from CRC in the states. Anyone ever get a bike shipped over from CRC? Did you have to deal with duties or taxes?
  • 1 0
 Bikes are supposed to be duty free from what I hear.
  • 2 0
 I third the Maglor/Kzuma comments..... Exactly what I'm looking for for slaying trails. Just what I was trying to do with my Xprezo Gamjam... 115 in the rear made to run with 140 up front. it just turned out to be a liiiiitle too slack and long in the wheelbase for general ag trail use.... but I never missed the extra travel that I had w/my previous frame...... so, was stoked to see the 10-4.
  • 2 0
 This has answered my prayers. Short travel beefy bikes are the way forward. I had a remedy with 36s on and 90% of the time I'd say it was boring. also they are realising that you don't need a million gears on a mountain bike. This looks like the future to me.
  • 3 0
 I really like the Ten-4, I am a big fan of the reverse mullet style bike. Party in the front all business out back. I think I found my next ride. Can't wait for CRC to get them in!
  • 2 0
 Interesting that the nukeproof scalp comp is £2500,and the crc team were riding £2400 frames in 2010 in the intense m9.Excellent pricing on a bike that has done extremely well for it's first wc season.And the 2 ragleys are pure mint additions to their fleet.I love the way the bar gets raised every year in this sport we love.Brilliant news all round.


Gringo. tup Beer Salute
  • 1 0
 What`s the stroke length of the ragley shocks?
less travel with same shock = lower leverage ratios = more linear and controlled travel.
less travel with shorter shock = same leverage ratios = little suspension performance gain
  • 1 0
 Built my Mega a couple of weeks ago and since have thrashed it round 'Brenin and Lee/Crag quarry. Got my frameset at a great price and built it up with Revelations/X9/hand built wheels - truly phenomenal bike for the money. The shock is great out of the box and now that I have a bike that fits me perfect (at last) it's given me wayyy more confidence than before!
Works for me. Try one first though - some folks struggle with the short cockpit!
  • 1 0
 I don't understand. Brant Richards who started and owns Ragley has now joined ex-business On-One / Planet-x (which owns Titus) so how come he's producing bikes still that'll go head to head with his new/old companies range?
  • 1 0
 my guess is, he has some ideas up his sleeve, plus on-one gear is a lot more budget oriented than ragley, so i wouldn't say they're directly in competition.
  • 1 0
 Ragley is owned and was started by Hotlines. Brant Richards was a designer employed by Hotlines to help design the frames and create a brand identity.
  • 1 0
 i think the idea of more travel in front than back is a great one! actually, i've had this idea for a while...cant believe such a cool company was thinking the same thing. i want a g6 reeeeeaal bad!
  • 2 0
 Yea, that G6 is definitely my next frame. hope they make it out here in the US
  • 1 0
 Will the mega come with a dropper post as part of the build?? I think all am bikes that are full build should just need to purchase one for my mega any takers???
  • 1 0
 Read somewhere that these two Ragley frames were being delayed for a while. Probably not even a 2012 release. Anyone heard similar?
  • 1 0
 I think you guys did a good job on the "mega" the frames looks very though and fast.....
  • 1 0
 Just to clarify to anybody unsure, the Nukeproofs are available as whole bikes, they aren't new models.
  • 1 0
 And Nukeproof's newly appointed ambassador! Oaty nose! Razz

Them Ragley's are mighty fine though.
  • 1 0
 dont know how it rides, but I want one just because it's a G6 lol (looks like it should ride nicely too)
  • 1 0
 I know it's cliche to say what bike looks like what other bike, but seriously the 10 4 looks like a giant reign or trance...
  • 1 0
 from the looks of the photo the nukeproof scalp looks to have a low bottom bracket, still looks like a trick bike.
  • 1 0
 the Ragley 10-4 looks like Commencal's new 2012 Meta AM. and the new G6 looks like the 1st gen Giant Reign? :S
  • 1 0
 So what?
  • 2 0
 Manufacturers and frame designers are slowly running out of frame ideas so are having to resort to fine tuning previous designs and evolve them. :S
  • 1 0
 and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that if it's a decent, proven design.
  • 1 0
 nope not at all.
  • 1 0
 They may look similar, but the suspension linkage and mounting of the shock is different to both the bikes you mentioned. Although it is a very similar layout to the new mondraker bikes. But if it means better bikes it can't be a bad thing.
  • 1 0
 yeah i hear and agreewith you there. i'm loving the new bikes that are coming out next year i.e. Foes Shaver, Commencal Meta AM
  • 1 0
 The Ragleys look awesome. Lets hope they put shortish chainstays on them to keep them fun and easy to muck around on.
  • 1 0
 This Ragleys looks just right, imo. I don't need an extra rear travel , 'cuz my knees are still bending )
Great Protos!
  • 1 0
 Just built a Mega this week....it's going to Coed-y-Brenin this Sunday....I'll let you know. and it looks Mega!
  • 1 0
 Bump on any talk about the Ragley's going stale? Eurobike's coming up. Hoping to hear something about them.
  • 1 0
 So..... No Ragley booth at Eurobike...... Moving on to something else. Anyone else hearing anything?
  • 2 0
 the scalp is beast
  • 1 0
 How many golden nuggets is that?
  • 1 0
 those Nukeproof's are lookin' tiiiight..!
  • 1 0
 the downhill looks great o.O - i think its my bike for 2012
  • 1 0
 the ragley g-6 is quite a tidy bike... i likey!!!
  • 1 0
 When will the 10-4 be released in US?
How much does the frame cost?
  • 1 0
 shame ragley are so shocking at customer services
  • 1 0
 since when did nuke proof make bikes
  • 1 0
 is 2 grand for the whole bike?
  • 1 0
 BUMP.... Let's hope to see the Ragley frames at Eurobike 2012.
  • 1 0
 What ever happened to the ragleys?
  • 2 1
 the black one....
  • 1 0
 they look pretty sick!
  • 2 0
 Ragleys look nifty, I like 'em...The front end on the 10-4 looks like it'd arrive 10 minutes before you did...
  • 1 0
 i want a scalp so bad
  • 1 4
 Loving the Ragleys. I would have bought one of their steal hardtails if it wasn't for that fugly 3 finger bridge arrangment on the chain stay - spoilt the frame imo =(
  • 1 0
 I bought one (Ragley Bagger). The three finger thingy hides behind the chainring and bash. Just need brakes now and good to go.
  • 1 0
 That's some lame nitpicking, you barely even see the bridge. Ragley hard tails are a blast to ride. I'm continuously stoked on mine.
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