Aaron Chase "Softtail" - Bike Check

Oct 21, 2008
by Mike Levy  
Aaron Chase was making his way around the Outdoor Demo aboard his new and unique machine, the Cannondale Chase Softtail. The new bike uses a Lefty suspension fork for a top tube, has 3" of travel, and still has tight hardtail geometry. How the heck does it do that?

Read the article and find out!

Watch the HD Video with Aaron Chase explaining the theory behind his new bike!
Cannondale Chase "Softtail"

It was hot enough out there in the desert to cause hallucinations, which is what I thought this bike was at first. There I am minding my own business, snapping photo's of bikes that we were scheduled to see, when Mr. Aaron Chase rolls on by with this crazy contraption! I didn't know what to think at first but the more I looked at and listened to Aaron explain his new rig, the more it made sense. Maybe this bike isn't so crazy after all! What it turns out to be is a clever solution to some troublesome issues.

Aaron Chase and his new softtail

Having a bit of travel on the back of your slopestyle bike is an advantage on most of today's courses, but as soon as you add some sort of shock to the bike compromises have to be made. All of a sudden the bike needs to fit the necessary suspension related bits in there, as well as having room for the tire to come up without smashing into the frame or seat. So what Aaron came up with is basically a 3" travel full suspension bike that is able to use typical tight hardtail geometry.



Watch the video and let Aaron explain the how's and why's of his new bike:



The Chase Softtail actually uses a Lefty fork leg for it's top tube. For those that don't know the Lefty is Cannondale's single sided suspension fork that has a four sided stanction tube and rolls in and out on four strips of roller bearings. Neat stuff!



The Specs!

Frame infoCannondale "softtail" using Lefty suspension fork as a toptube, 3" of travel
Rear Shock....kindaCannondale Lefty fork leg, 3"
ForkFox
HeadsetFSA 1.5" reducer
CrankarmsShimano Saint
Bottom BracketShimano Saint
PedalsShimano DX
ChainShimano
CassetteShimano modified 6spd with custom neutral gear
Rear DerailleurShimano Saint Shadow
Shifter Cable/HousingStock
Shifter PodShimano Saint
HandlebarSIC
StemSIC
BrakesShimano Saint
WheelsetDT 6.1's laced to DT hubs
TiresMaxxis Hollyrollers
SaddleSDG Skylite I-Beam
SeatpostSDG I-Beam
ExtrasSIC neutral gear

The Chase Softtail has a tight 15.75" chainstay length and gets 3" of travel. The bike pivots around the B.B. so while it is a URT (unified rear triangle) the suspension still works when Aaron is standing up.



The "top tube" mounts to the front end via this burly junction. The red dial is actually the Lefty's rebound adjustment knob



There is really only one pivot on the bike and that is this one around the bottom bracket. Basically the entire rear end of the bike, meaning the seat and chainstays, as well as the seat tube, all pivot forward 3" and compress the Lefty shock. The rear end can be super short because the seat tube is moving with it and the entire bike retains typical hardtail geometry



Aaron was one of the first riders using a neutral gear and he still runs it to this day. He simply shifts onto the smooth portion of his cassette and lets the chain rotate over it as he is rolling backwards, thus eliminating the need to pedal in reverse. Slick!



Pretty damn cool Aaron! The new Cannondale does make a load of sense. For a lot of courses, 3" or travel is plenty and having the exact same geo as a proper hardtail will make switching bikes easier, even though he'll have to do it less now. Even though it has 3" of travel it is still super easy to single speed too. The bike we saw looked a bit rough but there are plans to refine it, mainly smoothing out the Lefty toptube and how it's attached to the frame.

Thanks for giving us the low down on your new rig Aaron and we can't wait to see you out there ripping it up!

It's not there but if you want more info on any Cannondale bikes hit up Cannondale.com

-Mike "Kakah" Levy

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207 Comments

  • + 46
 Now that is one cool bike.
  • + 19
 Raleigh Activator MkII
  • + 47
 dont fancy trapping certain parts on the shock
  • + 7
 So sick! I ride a Chase right now and i love it!!!! i was looking at getting a transition double to replace it tho.... Definitely waiting for this Smile For those of you that have never ridden a chase it is such a nice light flickable bike look into getting one Smile
  • + 0
 WOW! The spec on the bike is so sick. Anyone know what the weight of this bike is?
  • + 7
 around 27-32, it wont be super heavy.
  • + 9
 They should make something to cover that shock though cause that just seems like an accident waiting to happen.
  • + 1
 how much does a normal 09 chase cost?
  • + 21
 audeo03 - This concept is designed specifically for this bike, hence why it is not a concept applicable to XC/AM riding. This bike is for dirt/street/slopestyle.

merkel - You FAIL
  • + 4
 Yeah audeo03, it's like saying a rocky mountain element is crap because you can't use it for djing....
  • + 5
 this is such a amazing peace design the next step forward in suspention technology. but then again thats what they said when the leftys were brought out and now look at them
  • - 2
 You will lose lateral stiffness BIG TIME with this design. Look how long the shock arm is. Also, the front triangle on almost every bicyle is independent of the rear suspension for this reason. At least they found a decent use for a Lefty... I didn't say it was crap. It is creative (not innovative), and only for this application. It is silly how many slopestyle bikes there are though. How many people can actually justify having a dedicated SS bike???
  • - 4
flag fr3er1d3r (Oct 21, 2008 at 11:55) (Below Threshold)
 and when your sitting down and you hit a bump... then what?? everything in the rear triangle and seattube will move
  • + 20
 if you sit down while dirt jumping or riding slopestyle that'll be the least of your problems...
  • + 16
 That neutral gear is pimp.
  • + 2
 i want oneSmile it looks sooo sik
and dont bash it its for dj/ss not AM/XC
  • + 1
 SICK BIKE and the neutral gear is cool
  • + 0
 well ive just made my neutral gear out of some pvc pipe works perfect and saves $20+ import tax and postage and so on and also can still run 7speed not 6
  • + 1
 Looks like they are bringing it back
  • + 11
 that's really cool. makes so much sense. weird lookin, but sensible. are they gonna mass produce this beast?
  • + 3
 when it comes out you can be sure that i will have one!!!
  • - 4
flag ssiimmss (Oct 21, 2008 at 11:55) (Below Threshold)
 Reminds me of this
www.mtbr.com/cat/bikes/bike-full/softride/2000-powercurve xc/PRD_354221_95crx.aspx

And this
www.totalbike.com/news/article/808

and this www.bikepro.com/products/stems/girvin.html

this www.mtbr.com/cat/older-categories bikes/olderhelmets/giro/switchblade/PRD_352087_1534crx.aspx

this
www.amp-research.com/pdflibrary/installguides/bikes/ForkFrameManual.pdf

I could go on forever....

all really shitty ideas
  • + 8
 I am impressed you took sooo much time so show us all this great old junk.... You forgot only one thing... This bike is ridden and promoted by someone who can actually ride....
  • + 4
 I like the part on the video where he hits a road cyclist LOL @ 141.1 seg
  • - 10
flag audeo03 (Oct 21, 2008 at 13:57) (Below Threshold)
 Nice one ssiimmss! Except for the AMP research frame. That's the first 4-bar linkage for a MTB.
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Cannondale will try anything! Haven't you people learned already!?!?
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Previous Crappy-dale ideas:
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Lefty Fork
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Cannondale Motocross Bike
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Headshox
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etc, etc, etc...
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At least they're made in America.
  • + 0
 the last one is not so bad my fend has one and i rode it in fish creek it wasnt so bad
  • + 0
 dude, that was like back in the stone age, welcome to 2009 almost, this is rider innovation, its simple and light and is reasonable unlike that gay softride..
  • + 1
 lol, i had a Flexstem back in the a day...how times have changed
  • + 0
 they could have made the top tube look nicer, wonder how good it is to ride .. Eek
  • + 7
 If you prefer riding a hardtail, but could do with suspension, then this removes all the reasons why you prefer a hardtail over a suspension frame. Its genius for those who prefer riding hardtails, its not a 'dedicated' full-sus frame, but I don't think Cannondale are intending for this. I reckon they'll be a huge seller.
  • + 1
 True. But SS bikes aren't HUGE sellers. Then again, I'm sure a grip of little posers will buy them and sit around the dirt jumps while a couple of kids on hardtails actually ride.
  • + 3
 Cannondale isn't popular with the posers thank goodness, according to them "Cannondales are crap cos they snap real easy cos their friend had one and it broke after he rode off a curb"...

I love the idea of this frame, but it's use will be limited to jumping only, I prefer a more versatile 'do-it-all' bike!
  • + 0
 its the other way around for me i hve a 7.5 inch travel bike-i need a ht for dj and 4x but suck at riding hardtails
  • + 4
 chase is that dude. and i wouldnt personally go out and buy this bike, but, im lovin how creative and artistic they get with these bikes, especially company like cannondale that dont always rely on mainstream suspension companies to produce there bikes. right on Dale!
  • + 4
 this design is completely pointless and the article makes a common mistake about URT (unified rear triangle) suspension systems:

The bike pivots around the B.B. so while it is a URT (unified rear triangle) the suspension still works when Aaron is standing up.

this is false, with any URT design, once you are standing, you are actually standing on the rear triangle, and what happens is that the frame pivots in the middle rather than the rear triangle pivoting seperate to the rider's weight load on the bottom bracket axle

URT's only provide "suspension" when sitting on the saddle, but there is an un-pleasent sensation of the bottom bracket to saddle height constantly changing as the suspension compresses

this is why URT designs were pretty much dropped during the 90's when every company was trying out various systems to see what worked

on a DJ/ SS bike where you are not going to be sitting down due to the nature of riding the bike is designed for and the miniscule dimensions of the seat tube

Cannondale have never been afraid to "innovate" but this design is wack Wink
  • + 0
 im dam happy someone understands, thanks for a good input man, Ive been trying to discuss with others the flaws in this design and that harsh transformation in geometry as it compresses threw its travel, i just needed someone with good terminology to explain it. anyway cheers man, keep the good explanations hitting. by the way just cause chase can ride a bike doesn't mean he can make one and this sure as hell proves it.
  • + 3
 this is false, with any URT design, once you are standing, you are actually standing on the rear triangle

Hello, the pivot is CONCENTRIC!!! Therefore you are also standing on the front triangle as well!!!!! DUH!!!

This is why this feels different from a regular URT in which the pivot is ahead of the BB!

When the pivot is ahead of the BB, this devides/reduces the workload on the shock(making the bike feel firm)! Hence Newtons law, "for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction", hence if you put the pivot behind the BB, the workload on the shock would be increased, and the bike would feel softer, therefore the Concentric BB is the Neutral point in the equasion! When the pivot is Concentric, the workload on the shock remains Consistent, since your weight is on both the front and rear at the same time!
  • - 1
 That's exactly what he said Banshee. It is not a true URT, AND is kinda silly...
  • + 2
 I don't see anything in his writing stating what you say, I just see him say that the suspension will feel like any URT, and that is not true for the Concentric BB type!

Hence how he mentioned the URT being thrown out of the market in the '90s... While that may be true for the regular(leading pivot) URT, meanwhile the Concentric BB URT has lived on in use on the Cove G-spot FR frame, and Rotec DH racing frames.

If the Concentric BB felt anything like the regular URT, then these two companies sure the hell wouldn't be using it on a FR or DH frame!

Rotec makes one of the most raved about DH frames, that uses this pivot system! How "Silly" is that?!!!
  • - 1
 Hence, my good man. Hence, indeed! Wink
  • + 3
 looks good to me,a specific bike for a specific ride style.so the top tube changes,so what!all suss frame types suffer geometry changes under impact.i think the benifits of this rear end are what this bike is about..who the hells gona ride this sittin down?!?!ITS A FREESTYLE BIKE! i own a chase an love it.to the people that say crack-n-fail..YEA RIGHT!! COS NO OTHER COMPANYS BIKE HAS EVER SNAPPED.I've seen enough broken bikes to know that it don't matter what your ridin,steel..alu its gonna break if you land hard enough!!
hope this makes it to production,i wonder how many companys will copy it???????
  • - 4
flag summit800 (Oct 21, 2008 at 9:44) (Below Threshold)
 you dont understand the geometric point of view on this bike do u. u have to think quite a bit to understand the transformation the front triangle is to take, with the geometry changing in the rear triangle u get a shorter wheel base, but this is actualy realy usefull under cornering, the length in the front triangle has a great importance in teh way the bike will ride, the rear not as much. and yes ive seen hundreds of any bikes crack, they all do crack and i do agree with u, although u need to agree with me canondales older bikes are the biggest bags of shit ever. like i mentioned their new models are definitly gaining better quality, this is just a bad designe though, this is a bike that can easily be over seen by the transition double, using much better single pivot geo,
  • + 0
 yea i know what you mean but,remember its only 3inch travel! its not like the bars are gonna fly up an smash the riders kneecaps! the handeling changes are gonna be minimal compared to a 6/8inch travel bike.the benifits of the fixed rear(realy short stays,super low seat an no change in chain lenght) are gonna be soooo good for freestyle.
yea this bike is gona suck on downhill,xc or a 4X track but its gonna be soo good for street an bike park freestyle,also i think the shock will releive strees on the head tube junction. this is a new catergory of bike,a very short travel bike......with a hard tail
think about this...would the change in top tube angle be absorbed by the forks?????????
  • + 0
 p.s front susspension,,rear susspension,we now have middle susspension......discuss
  • + 3
 looks pretty sweet ive recently taken an interest in this brand of bike for the perp and chase ht but i dont have the money for a perp and i kinda suck at ht riding,tho i could get better if these are cheap and reliable it might be the answer anyone know how much they cost
  • + 2
 Hmm. Looks like something the found in the grave from the 90's. Except this bike has more hydro formed tubings... Must be annoying when the saddle moves around when the suspension works...
  • + 2
 think its a good idea, and its not that much different to kona's cowan ds that had 4" at the back just a different way of using the suspention could be the next big development on slopestyle bikes
  • + 3
 I like the idea and would love to try one out. Only thing that concerns me is the pricing, could potentially be very expensive.
  • + 1
 I want one. Having ridden and been pleasantly suprised by what a lefty can handle, and how it feels, I'm sure this bike will perform. I hope they release this to the public, although I'm sure it would be at some horrendously inflated price.
  • + 1
 I don't know how lock-out technology works on suspension for lefties under dirt jumping. But if you could have and easy switch lock-out and make it a soft tale to a hard tale for street that would be cool. Big Grin
  • + 0
 'Hampsteadbandit', I'm not sure that the Unified rear triangle design you are thinking of (like an old RM Pipeline?) applies to these designs (this bike, kona bass etc) where the rear end pivots around the bb, because the BB is actually attatched to the front triangle and the rear triangle pivots on its own bearings around the BB. Therefore the suspension design works more like a single pivot suck as an orange, just with the main pivot in a different location.

I could be wrong but this is just my understanding of it Wink .
  • + 0
 For a strictly competition bike where you never ever sit down while riding, sure. Why not?

Riding that over a series of roots while sitting, with the seat shooting forward at every bump, might get to be a pain in the ass in more ways than one.
  • - 1
 i suppose you could be right. that won't be so good if that was to happen. oh well.
  • + 0
 then isnt it better buying two differnt bikes - like a hardtail and full-susp>?It looks stange - u have a seat u can only use over a flat ground(unsless u are a female) and dirt-jumping geometry.Do u need suspension in dirt jumping?
  • + 8
 Maybe I'm off base a bit. I was thinking it would be set fairly soft, but it's probably completely the opposite. It's probably set so you'd have to case a 20 footer to bottom it. Small bumps probably wouldn't even move it at all. Would give you hardtail geo and hardtail feel until you really facked up. Then it would help keep your ankles from snapping off...
  • + 2
 it is tight. in the video when he does that little hop 90 thing, it doesnt move at all. im sure it would do fine over a patch of roots. no different than a ht, until you need it to help you out. prettty shmart.
  • + 0
 For the people who are whinging about the top tube becoming shorter on impact, it won't matter. The feel and length of your front end is determined by the horizontal distance from the centre of the BB to the centre of the head tube, which doesn't change when the suspension compresses. The only thing that changes upon compression the the seat angle, which will only effect you if you land jumps sitting down, which if you do, you're an idiot. In my opinion it is a genious idea and I would love to try one out.
  • + 1
 I think te idea is very good, but, however I might work out very well, it won't be a "break trough". Probably people won't trust this new system and I can find myself also in that..
But cannondale: Great job done!!
  • + 0
 if the lefty works so well...why doesn't he have one on the front of his bike? putting it somewhere else on the bike isn't going to make that suspension part work any better. i think the idea is good, but execution is bad. hard to say without actually riding one...
  • + 0
 hehe ^^ ok this works proven as seen in the video but if the bb isn't free from the swing arm and main frame surely its going to kick up the cranks and be horrid to ride but they probably thought of that so there probably no problems i would use it for dj i think it is a really good idea but street involves a lot of pedalling which involves a lot of sitting to different spots and so on i'm not sure that it will work that well for that but still great idea for pro's ss/dj but not for your everyday rider
  • + 0
 that is interesting i have ridden the lefty for years and loved it. but i don't know about this. I think they should look to Moots' YBB type of suspension i think that would be much more effectiv if they could some how figure out a way to put on each seat stay without any clearance issues
  • + 0
 I didn't know there was a bike that was the opposite of a Slingshot. But I guess that Cannondale is it. And teenagers, if you don't know what a Slingshot is, take a gander at this:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/indynick/shota.jpg

Instead of a downtube there is a wire attached to a spring that compresses under load which lengthens the wire. It pivots just in front of the seat tube/top tube intersection. The pivot is a flexible piece of, I think, fibreglass. I'd like to hear from someone who rode one.
  • + 0
 pretty hard to hear from the ppl who have ridden one when their probly still in a wheelchair and cant talk.
  • + 0
 summit800, you made me laugh out loud!
  • + 0
 lol thanks man. haha
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 + 0 props nfiorito (October 22, 2008 at 7:04) (Below Threshold) show comment
If that's the case, then I think your question should read: Transition Double now or the soft tail in 4 years?....
yeah i know it wont come out for another half a decade and transitions are made 3 hours away from me so......hmm./
  • + 2
 Hmmm, that looks seriously cool! Love the front fork.. Fox fan until I die!!
  • + 1
 not a kinda bike where if it breaks good luck gettiung parts for it without ordering them from fox. prob wont be able to get them just from any bike shop.
  • + 0
 correct me if im wrong but is that an f100x? I dig the softtail design, rode one xc for years and it's great, but the fork seems a bit light for what he's surely doing with it.
  • + 3
 Looks a good idea, the neutral gear thingy is sweet!
  • + 0
 dobride26 .. you may want to consider using a thing called grammar!
i am 15 and i am taking college engineering courses at the moment... so basically im saying

i believe the words are F*CK YOU , you twat-waffler
  • + 0
 I remember a kid in my neighborhood had a similar "motocross" bike. probably around 1975. It was weird because the bike felt like it was folding on you when you jumped the stairs...
  • + 1
 when i first saw pics of his bike everyone was saying how lame and gay it would be now everyone is ah like its amazing i want one
  • + 0
 it looks like a new interesting idea, i wouldnt mind test riding it, and for the guy up there that said their made in america, i thought that some chinese company bought it now
  • + 2
 its great fun to service lefty's, and it will need servicing
  • + 0
 it'll be easy to pull of the bike at least!
  • + 1
 That Fvckin insane, always wanted to try an make something like that, guess I wont have to, totally worth trying
  • + 0
 how many mountain bikers does it take to change a light bulb????
change,change! we dont like change round these parts boy! LOL
(dont hate,its just a joke)
  • + 0
 aaaaaaaaaallllllllllllloooooooooottttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LLLLLLLLllOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL
  • + 1
 I can't stop checking if this bike is out yet... when the heck will it be available for me to buy? It's so solid.
  • - 1
 i think it looks sweet, the concept of it is good and for slopestyle it would be lush the only thing im worried about is flex and strength of the frame itself if the whole top tube is essentially a shock. but im all for it!
  • - 2
 hamsteadbandit . dont try to explain US engineering if your from europe or where ever.
it will have the suspension active when standing if they pivot around the bottom bracket (like versus cycles) . and i pretty sure thats what cannondale is doing
  • + 3
 What European engineering is different that U.S. engineering!?!? The laws of physics are UNIVERSAL. Buffoon.
  • + 1
 kovacs2121 - that was the most amusing and naive thing I've read all day. Thanks!!
  • - 1
 shut the fuck up kovacs. what are 14 years old. you dult
  • + 2
 strange... don´t know what to think about it...
  • + 0
 o yes before i forget mmdgirard u can't buy mtb freecoasters they are only for ss and i think by the looks are it is for a geared bike
  • + 0
 oh okay. nvm then
  • + 0
 looks pretty dope. i wonder if it would make a nice little short travel trail bike, or even just a slalom bike. can't wait for them to release it...
  • + 0
 it looks like it might bend easily thought i mean it looks like a grea idea but, you know....it doesn;t look that safe, but maybe when i try one i will like it!
  • + 1
 im sorry i dont like it itd look super cool if it didnt have a squishy piece of rubber in the middle
  • + 0
 simple solution to squishy peice of rubber...EXACTO KNIFE!!!Smile Smile Smile Smile
  • + 2
 if arren chase still uses it its gotta be alright-he's had it for a while
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 bcuz hes sponsored by cannondale...
  • + 1
 But if he chooses to use this over a HT.....
  • + 0
 well for slopestyle its probbalt nicer to have the back shck
  • + 1
 Learn to spell!
  • + 0
 i made two typo's, and my keyboard is slightly messed
  • + 2
 wonder who has been sitting on this patent?
  • + 1
 Not worth patenting. No other serious bike company would go near this joke.
  • + 1
 WORD
  • + 0
 I like the bike. It's nice to see a large company like Cannondale doing things differently. The neutrals are available @ sicusa.com.
  • + 2
 i wont a nertral gear they look awsome, can you buy them any were
  • + 1
 I'm pretty sure you can make one with a cassette and a few spacers
  • - 1
 What happens if you hit your balls on the top bar at the same time as over shooting a jump? Balls + bottom'd out suspension on top bar? seems painful to me! but i'd love this bike lol Big Grin
  • - 1
 simple solution....dont ride in the nude! lol i want one too!
  • - 1
 I was thinking the exact same thing, you'd be stuck hard.
  • + 1
 i don kno...o don think ill ride it....
  • + 1
 are these going to be available for 09 there sick
  • + 1
 would look sick with like a dhx air 5.0 if that would work
  • + 0
 true dat!
  • + 0
 with a i2i length of what? 15 inches?
  • + 0
 I read about that bike in the latest Decline Bike Magazine issue. it's pretty creative. i like it but i wouldn't want one.
  • + 1
 thats almost as good as a giant
  • + 0
 oh and ctd07 those posers must of wayed 200kg+ to brake it while riding off a curb
  • + 0
 are those 24" rims? They seems small. No wonder his saddle won't touch the wheels. AC should point it out more clear.
  • + 1
 Innovative!! thats what we like to see!
  • + 0
 did anyone else notice that at 41.5 seconds into the video he nearly crashes into a fat guy on a road bike? brilliant.
  • + 1
 very sexy. if only i had the money
  • + 1
 nice pivot is like a kona cowan ds but it looks so much more smple
  • + 0
 i heard dave weagles designing a long travel version for sam hill on his new specialized
  • + 1
 care to expand on why it looks bad? I think this looks like a blast.
  • + 0
 well I think that because it's only a prototype, but it's great idea for dirtjumpers, slop-style bikers etc, very simple and heavy duty Smile
  • + 0
 wow it looks like the neck is going to break if you landed hard. because it is pretty much one tube holding.
  • + 0
 i don't think any1 will read this cuz there are like a thousand here, but , sweet set-up, must be f*ckin nice to ride...
  • + 1
 I think this is the next whisteler bike!
  • + 0
 diamandbackxs07... learn to spell FAN. The fram looks sick but weight might be a problem
  • + 1
 cannondale always one step ahead
  • + 0
 You mean a decade behind...
  • + 0
 thats a wicked concept! it'll take off for sure, perfect street, 4x and kicking it at your buddy's mums house
  • + 5
 All I need is some rubber to kick it at your mum's house!
  • + 0
 Can he still pedal forward in the neutral gear? I kinda want to do that to my bike.
  • + 1
 no thats why its called neutral
  • + 0
 that thing would be madd for dirt street or slope style, ive gotta get me one of them Big Grin
  • + 1
 just when you thought there was no other way to have rear suspension
  • + 1
 its siick and all but it doesn't look good nice idea though
  • + 0
 neutral gear is stupid. if you want to ride backwards without pedaling, buy a friken freecoaster!
  • + 0
 Not if you want to run a few gears.
  • + 0
 Hammerschmidt and a freecoaster! Not cheap, but super sickter. No lame ass derailleur.
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Or just go chainless. While you're at it, buy a bmx and ditch the brakes too.
  • - 1
 I've thought about the design before, but wouldn't it flex when the front fork compressed?
  • + 0
 I want one...now the question is transition double or the soft tail?
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 If that's the case, then I think your question should read: Transition Double now or the soft tail in 4 years?
  • + 0
 What fork is that? I know its fox...
  • + 1
 indeed
  • + 0
 u'll definitly see me with one of these!
  • + 0
 looks good but i bet another company will do the same but beter Smile
  • + 0
 no I dont think this design is going anywhere... theres a certain traditional look that people want and this is just way before its time if ever there is a time
  • + 0
 really how would that work ?
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 looks kinda bendy D:
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 damn.... cool fucking ride!! yeah
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 oh! shit is really increible!!!
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 sweet this looks like a pretty cool idea
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 hey it's relly easy to build "natrual gear" it take 1,5 houer for meBig Grin
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 it would be sick if you could put a normal rear shock on that bad boy
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 Now that is one cool bike
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 who makes that neutral gear thingy
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 a. its says in the vid. b. google it if you dont know. c. you can make them its just spacers instead of a cog.
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 sick
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 sicusa.com makes the neutrel gear
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 weired!
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 im really interested in that neutral gear
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 Pretty crazzz!!
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 finally, a good use for the lefty fork! this will kick every other slopestyle bikes ass!
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 Scuzee, An Intense 6.6SS would kick this thing to kingdom come(don't get me wrong, I like this bike as well).
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 so is it a dual link world cup dh bike haha, its a pretty good idea though this is a cool bike
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 still an awesome bike
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 it seems pretty cool. it would definitely be a seller.
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 i have a cannondale chase and i love it i so want the softtail now!
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 yep pritty sweet
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 oh spelt his name wrong
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 o sic make them cool
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 i'm gonna get this when it comes out.

I am 100% sure. I love this bike.
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 I like Smile
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 how much does it wiegh?
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 I want it too!!! Look cool!
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 its nice but it looks kind of stupid
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 he almost hit some guy at 142
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 that is sick
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 I WANT ONE!!!
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 great idea, this is going to take off for sure
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 i want one
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 crazy.
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 SICK BIKE!!!
i wonder if the suspension actually works though?
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 well u can tell it does in the vid
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 nice
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 That bikes so cool!
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 frame sry
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 damn, thats real sweet.
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 cool
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 f*ck me, thats soo cool!
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 looks like a really bad idea to me
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 never know till you try... the problem i have with it is the stauntion in the toptube looks vunerable
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 thats why it has a boot over it
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 freecoaster hub?
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 Can you say marketing gimmick?
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 yeah looks like a load of bollox to me too Smile
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 I agree. The seat moving back and forwards would annoy me and why 3"?
Everything that bike can do can be done on a hardtail without the weight penalty/more parts to damage.

Good to make a proto but I can't see it going anywhere.
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 have you seen the latest SS courses like crankworx and stuff like that? this guys are going bigger and bigger every year so some suspension helps a lot.
also the seat is going to move but this bike is meant as a street/park/dj bike so you wont spend much time pedaling sitting down
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 If you are going too out of shape for a hardtail to handle, I doubt 3" of travel is gonna save you.
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 But that 3" could also be what saves you from crashing.
Personly not a massive fan of the looks of it, but thats just myself.
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 I didn't finish watching the video, but what about the weight??
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