Identiti Updates the Mettle Enduro Bike With Longer and Slacker Geometry Tweaks

Jul 29, 2019
by Identiti-Bikes  
Mettle R - 2020

PRESS RELEASE: Identiti Bikes

The Mettle is our much loved but often abused bike of choice that lives its life covered in mud and used for taking on all-day epics in the mountains, uplift days, or just thrashing around. A true workhorse designed to take it all and keep on coming back for more. It’s widely become the bike of choice for riders that want to spend more time riding, less time faffing and it’s just got even better.

Mettle R -2020


Identiti Mettle 2 - Navy



Details
Wheels: 27.5'' Wheels
Shock: Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate or Optional MRP Hazzard coming soon.
Travel: 170mm Fr | 160mm Rr
Colours/sizes: Gloss Night Time Navy Satin Rich Rust - S/M/L
Frame: £1,799.99
Complete: R £3199.99. RCX £4799.99
Mettle on the Website

What’s different?

Slacker Head Tube Angle | Steeper Seat Tube Angle | Longer Reach on all sizes.

Whilst it just looks like the usual longer/slacker/lower updates (nothing is actually lower), there was a lot of thinking behind the geometry revision. We don’t believe in change for change's sake, but if we can make a change for the better, we will. Here’s how it helps you…

As a combined package all three geometry changes mean that our sat downsizing (effective top tube length) remains almost identical to the previous generation Mettle, yet your mass is more central and balanced between the wheels. But the stood up, foot out, berm slapping sizing - the kind of riding you’d buy this bike for - is more confident and ready to get loose when you are, simple.

Our small frame now has a reach of 450mm, and the large tops out at 500mm and we compare our sizing to everyone else's medium, large, and extra large frames if you wanna compare.


We've kept the same proven kinematics as we believe in them. Yes, it's progressive. Yes, it pedals well. We've been riding the Mettle with a coil for well over a year, but if you wanna save a little weight or just prefer it, you can run an air shock with minimal volume reducers. We could bore you with graphs, but we'd rather you just got out and test rode it for yourself.

We're also proud of our frame features, like the fact that all the hardware bolts have 5mm hex key heads, or the fact that every pivot has a large 6902 sealed bearing. We use a widely available Syntace rear hanger, so you won't get stuck on that summer Alps trip.






From today you can get your hands on a frame only for a custom build, or two different completes:


Mettle R - 2020
Mettle R - £3,199.99 - Rock Shox Yari RC 170mm and Super Deluxe Ultimate shock, SRAM NX Eagle Drivetrain and Guide T brakes, Halo Ridgeline Wheels and full Gusset S2 finishing kit.


Mettle RCX - 2020
Mettle RCX - £4,799.99 - MRP Ribbon Air 170mm fork and Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate shock, SRAM X01 Eagle Drivetrain and Code R brakes, Halo Vortex Wheels, Renthal and ODI finishing kit.


Frame Only - £1,799.99 - Rock Shox Super Deluxe Ultimate shock. Coil option using the new MRP Hazzard available soon.

Available TODAY in select UK dealers - As a small brand we still believe the best way to buy a bike is through a bike shop and whilst we may not be the cheapest out there, we value the service that your local bike shop can give you with our products.

Outdoor Photos - Sandy Plenty
Indoor Photos - Dan Odling

For full features and spec information, visit identitibikes.com











97 Comments

  • + 17
 Swooning! Ordered a blue one Smile
  • + 1
 So what was wrong with your gray one you are selling here?
  • + 70
 @IluvRIDING: Nothing.. I sold it to buy a blue one!
  • + 15
 How can a small frame have a reach of 450mm? way too big for people that actually ride a small like myself.
  • + 0
 Everything depends on how long the stem is and how much the seat angle is tilted
  • + 6
 Yeah, couldn't agree more.
  • + 3
 @pk71: no it doesn't. the seat angle and stem length doesn't affect reach.
  • + 19
 It’s payback time.. for all of mtb history, bikes have been tiny. Now they’re big.
  • + 3
 @mtb-scotland: Our small/medium/large are more medium/large/extra large vs everyone else's bikes. I'm 5ft 9 and ride the small, if I was racing full time I'd be on the medium though.
  • + 7
 @Identiti-Bikes: why not label them as such then? I'm 3 inches smaller than you
  • + 11
 @mtb-scotland: There's unfortunately no standard for sizing and we had to pick something. We'd always urge people to buy off the geometry that works for them, not the size 'name'. Will we ever make an extra small? Maybe, but we're a small company with large minimum quantities to hit so it's not easy.
  • - 1
 @mtb-scotland:The seat angle is decisive for reach, while for steam you have to consider that they are normally mounted of about 5/6 cm. while currently with "long" reach they have gone to 3.5 / 4 cm.
  • + 6
 @pk71: seat angle affects ETT/TT not reach.
  • + 2
 @BedsideCabinet: I feel for you tbh, I mean you can hardly even see over the bed.
  • + 2
 @mtb-scotland: Excuse me, I wrote badly, the seat angle is crucial because, with the same reach, a more or less vertical anchor determines the size of the bike.
Perhaps I have explained myself better.
The original concept was "invented" by Mondraker with the Forward Geometry.
  • + 2
 Agree, at some point too long is too long. Its not like i can get a -10 mm stem.
  • + 9
 @tobiusmaximum: Especially when your mum is in it.
  • + 2
 @mtb-scotland: yes it does. Shorter stem and steeper seat angle reproduce the same “saddle to grip” distance, with the benefits of a longer bike ????
  • + 1
 It’s ok, the stack only increases 9mm from small to large. I guess at 6’4” I’m supposed to want my hands at a similar height to someone nearly a foot shorter than me...
  • + 1
 Yeah I’m 6’2” and my favorite Bike was my 460mm reach glory. I can’t understand Bike sizing these days. Maybe trying the right bike would change my mind but I cant see myself getting down steeps and over lippy jumps with a super long bike.
  • + 1
 @Identiti-Bikes: thank you for at least admitting that today's sizing is not accurate! I've ridden Large size frames forever, but now I have to buy a medium because everyone has gone too long with their geometry.

On a positive note, that's a great looking frame and props for sticking with aluminum.
  • + 1
 @mountaindoctor: Yep, within reason. Bottom bracket location is in that equation too. Try to grow the reach too much and you can't compensate enough with STA and stem length. Pedals need to be far forward enough of the seat to generate force. And feel correct in and out of the saddle.
  • + 0
 @pk71: Why are your comments being downvoted? You're 100% right, within reason. A 450mm reach with a 35mm stem and steep STA will fit some pretty short people, assuming the standover is super low.
  • + 1
 @yzedf: The two parts of the frame that are easily variable are the stack height and saddle height. You can put a fork with an uncut steerer on it, plus riser bars to increase the bar height quite a bit. You can put a longer dropper, inserted less, to raise the saddle. What isn't adjustable is reach; this allows people to pick a reach appropriate for their comfort, riding style, and preferences.

@ejopdahl DH bikes tend to have less reach than bikes with shorter forks; reach is only the horizontal measure of axle to bars; since DH bikes usually have a longer fork that puts the bars higher, less reach will make a similar axle-to-bar total distance, just angled upwards (which is better for DH anyways).
  • + 2
 No it doesn’t
Draw a line from the bottom bracket up then draw a line from the head tube back. The distance from the headtube to the intersection of the bottom bracket line in reach. Step length and seat tube angle have nothing to do with reach. If my bike had a seat tube angle 5 degrees different from what it is now the reach would still be the same.

@mountaindoctor:
  • + 1
 @badbikekarma: I mean, try flipping it around.
  • + 1
 @hamncheez: how tall are you? You eating up dropper bushings every 8 months? Flexing 35mm bars? Creaky stems and cranks? Blowing up rear hubs? Breaking the occasional chain?

Please, tell my why to buy a undersized bike like this.

For stack that makes more sense, look at today’s Yeti SB140 geometry chart.
  • + 2
 @mtb-scotland: reach does not change, but try drawing and measuring the distance between the center of the saddle and the center of the handlebar and then you can tell me if the seat angle does not affect the size
  • + 1
 @mtb-scotland: yes it does. Explain how my XL capra 2016 is longer in reach than my 2018 capra 29 L? They have the same "reach". But the new one has a much steeper seat angle making the effective reach shorter even though the listed "reach" is the same. It's hard to list effective reach as it all depends on, stem, saddle, seatpost and bar rise. Brands should be clearer about new sizing though and maybe use an interactive online flash model where you can put your own numbers in for these factors the measure the effective reach. Not hard for most programmers I'm guessing?
  • + 2
 @pk71: reach isn't from the saddle. That is ETT.

@ImAManCheetah88 2016 has 626mm TT and 458mm reach. 2018 has 621mm TT and 460mm reach. seat angle affects ETT length not reach.

explain how seat tube angle affects reach after looking at this

1.bp.blogspot.com/-JNpzo9RKKIk/VWdmDMamPII/AAAAAAAAXJM/csy9NSgwKNM/s640/stackandreach.gif
  • + 1
 @mtb-scotland:

My point being is while the reach is longer, because the seat tubes are steeper it isn't noticed as much.
  • + 1
 @ImAManCheetah88: how are you not getting that reach has nothing to do with the saddle or seat tube angle.
  • + 2
 @mtb-scotland: What we are trying to say is that you can use a longer reach if the seat tube angle is steeper. I love my bike with a 480mm reach, but only because I have a short stem and steep STA. If the STA was slacker then I would be force to ride a shorter reach bike.

@yzedf I'm 200 pounds without gear, and i have roasted dropper post bushings, bottom brackets, endless freehubs, and chains. I'm also only 5"9', so if I want a large reach but a short enough seat tube to run a 150mm dropper I have to get a boutique brand like Pole or get a hack saw and buy an XL frame. This bike allows me to get a 500mm+ reach (not that I want one that long, but there are people who do) but still have the head tube and seat tube low enough to make it work. A taller guy like yourself can easily run bars with 40mm of rise, an uncut steer, and have the effective head tube the same. The trend nowadays is droppers that are 150 for a medium tall rider, and 200+ for tall guys, requiring shorter seat tubes than in the past.

Is all this 100% ideal? No. When you have set sizes and geometries you need to make some compromises. This allows for more people to get into a frame that fits them better than the more traditional sizing methods. If it doesn't work for you then get a custom made frame.
  • + 1
 @BedsideCabinet: I was talking about your username btw Wink
  • + 2
 @badbikekarma: Just rverse your stem, BAM. You got a -50mm! No problem, new stem standard!
  • + 1
 @mtb-scotland: don't know why you're getting downvoted for telling the truth. Reach is a poor measurement of fit...
  • + 1
 The small is similar to the large sc Bronson I've just bought at 6' tall. Seems a bit mad.
  • + 1
 @yzedf: Help! I do literally of the things you listed but I've never understood why. WTF am I doing wrong? I'm 6'0 and ride an XL Knolly Warden with 35mm stem. I've blown up two Raceface hubs this season and go through droppers like nobody's biz. I mean race face is garbage but still.
  • + 3
 @mtb-scotland: it’s a lot to read through when you’re busy so I’m not sure if anyone has said but I’m pretty sure the debate here is about the difference between geometry chart ‘reach’, which only acts upon a rider standing.. and real life ‘reach’ which could more accurately be labelled as ‘seated reach’. Clearly, a slack seat tube makes a bike much longer when seated. But this is also relative to the height of the saddle. Personally, being tall, one would think I like the idea of the Hightower or suchlike, with a slack seat tube angle. But the idea of being sat over the rear axle makes me want to puke. I figured out the idea of reach long before the bike companies mentioned it, mainly because being way too big for most bikes I simply thought the most important factor on a bike (which nobody talked about, and still really isn’t talked about and may end up being the useable geometry measurement) is ‘how far away are my hands from my feet?’. (Reach + stack + maybe an angle?)
  • + 1
 @tobiusmaximum: haha!!! True. My 2004 Bullit looks so freaking ancient. Modern bikes are soooooo much more comfortable and surefooted.
  • + 1
 @tobiusmaximum: look a Nicolai frames
  • + 1
 @tobiusmaximum: Thought you were calling me a dwaff ????
  • + 4
 @tobiusmaximum: ETT vs reach is pretty simple, and is listed in most geo charts.
ETT="seated reach"
Reach="standing reach"
  • + 1
 @clink83: effective top tube is disingenuous. it presumes that the rider will have their saddle at exactly the same height as the top of the headtube. doesn't it?
  • + 1
 @tobiusmaximum:
Yes. ETT is a very silly number as it disregards seat tube angle and reach. It has nearly nothing to do with how a mountain bike may fit or feel to ride.
  • + 0
 @Chris97a: It tells you a hell of a lot more than reach does, if you know what you what you are looking for. Since you spend most of your time sitting and pedaling it tells you how a bike is going to fit when your pedaling.
  • + 2
 @clink83:
Gotta 100% disagree with this.

ETT only tells you how far it is from the center of the top of the headtube to the center of the seat post along a flat line. That has very little to do with where the seat actually ends up. Actual seat tube angles vary from 62° to something like 75°, probably steeper. When the seat goes high enough for my 6'4" body that is a huge arc that the seat will end up on.

With reach and stack numbers I can know how the bike will feel to stand up on, and then I look at actual and effective seat tube angles to kinda guess where I'll end up. Really I just know that if the actual seat tube angle is way too slack(think Evil the Wrecking) I won't be able to pedal up a hill as it will just wheelie the whole time. Or way to steep, like some of the super progressive bikes, I will not be comfortable as I will have too much weight on my hands as I'm kinda old and pretty beat up. Usually there is a comfy spot by moving the seat around. On my Norco Optic I slid the seat a bit forward of middle on the rails, on my honzo I was nearly all the way back
  • + 1
 @Chris97a: if a bike fits you you should know what ETT fits you within a reasonable range, because regardless of the STA youre going to set up a bike based off your relation to the bottom bracket, so the ETT gives you a more realistic idea of cockpit length than reach. Considering most trail bikes are ridden with mm stems and XC bikes are more like 70-100mm you just select an ETT that will set you up with a reasonable stem length.
A lot of mountain bikers outside of XC racers have pretty jacked up bike fits though, so it's not a relevant number to them.
  • + 1
 @clink83:
I'm my opinion we are getting to the same thing from different sides.

You are using ETT and then seat tube angle to determine cockpit length.

I'm using reach and seat tube angle to determine cockpit length.

That is wild that xc racers still use 100 mm stems. I went from a 120 mm to a 50 mm over 20 years ago. Noticed no downsides and many upsides. I'm glad bikes finally stretched out to fit.
  • + 13
 They should make a ti bike , the Identititi.
  • + 6
 This bike really needs a raw version!
In RAW and with a good pedaling behaviour (Enduro goes up before it goes down) could this be my next biek...
  • + 6
 I mean, you could take the paint off and have a one of a kind? It'd be slightly lighter too Smile
  • + 4
 I second this! #oooowbabyilikeitraw
  • + 1
 @Identiti-Bikes: Upvote for raw with a nice clear lacquer on the top Smile
  • + 2
 Love your work
  • + 4
 Wow! Modern geo, ally, and a great price. Been planning on a Nomad for my next frame but I'm willing to consider this.
  • + 3
 Thanks for the support! Contact BTI over there to get your hands on one!
  • + 4
 Please bore me with graphics
  • + 2
 Looks awesome - test rode the previous one and didn't like the climbing position much but the bike was a proper slayer. Looking forwards to trying this one!
  • + 3
 Thanks! We'll be at Ard Rock this weekend if you're there! Smile
  • + 1
 @Identiti-Bikes: I wish! I think the fantastic Bache Brothers Cycles will have me covered there soon enough Smile
  • + 1
 @irollones: those boys will definitely be able to help! Great shop.
  • + 3
 That metallic rust is lush! Reminds me of my Fly Pantera BMX (that I sold to a rider who is now an Identity employee :') )
  • + 2
 If that was Stu, he left a couple of years ago! Smile
  • - 1
 Surprised they haven't come in more competitive on pricing. Why would you spend so much on a bike like this?
You'd either go the boutique route for the brand snobs (and they aren't actually that much more or you go the
Commencal, YT, Canyon, Norco, just to name a few route and get a much much better spec.
  • + 0
 reach does not change, but try drawing and measuring the distance between the center of the saddle and the center of the handlebar and then you can tell me if the seat angle does not affect the size
  • + 2
 We still choose to sell through bike shops because we think it's still the best way to make sure the customer gets the right size, spec and aftersales service. Added to that, we're much much smaller than the brands you've listed there which adds difficulty. We pride ourselves on being small and contactable and we'll always look after our customers.
  • + 3
 HOT!
  • + 1
 £100 less than an alloy santa cruz nomad 4. lol.
  • + 3
 And far less common Smile
  • + 1
 @Identiti-Bikes do you have a frame weight available please? Cheers
  • + 1
 No awesome purple colour?! I'm out.
  • + 3
 We showed the first Mettle in September 2016. We had to move on a little in that time Smile
  • + 1
 Need to break my grey one so I can have one of these
  • + 1
 Since there is no xl i'll keep on flying along on my Bird......
  • + 6
 Our large has a 500mm reach, but that's cool. Bird are nice guys Smile
  • + 0
 What to buy of you fancy an orange, but dont want an orange?
  • + 19
 An apple?
  • + 1
 What’s it got to do with orange?
  • - 1
 Thanks to Revolution Bike Park for the location.
  • + 5
 We shot in a week day, with permission and private use. They were thanked, don't worry!
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