Video: Devinci's New Wilson 29 DH Bike

 RIP Chainsaw!!!! I still have your sticker on my Devinci Troy. I see Dak doing a great job for Devinci so hopefully they will be back on the map after the time off in the DH scene, always been a fan of Devinci now let’s get some podiums

 Carbon comes in so many layups and various makeups that it can have a ton of different qualities. Same for aluminum, there are thousands of aluminum alloys with different properties. But I agree with you, the marketing bull is getting repetitive.

 It doesn't matter. The materials have different advantages. What the marketing says is just to sell bikes. Any material might be used to provide any qualities, although some materials might be used to optimize some qualities at a given price point. Buyer beware.

 Martha Stewart should come out with her own bike brand too.

 @robaussie99 The only thing relevant between alloy and carbon is the weight saving, besides that like mattyboi200 said everything else can differ a lot sometimes.
I guess (unless I'm wrong) the Wilson 29 meant opening new moulds for the front triangle for the new geometry on each frame size and Devinci expecting less quantities of 29 it may have been a safer decision to modify the cuts of current production tubes.

 Love the Wilson. Always have, always will. I will get a second hand one one if these days for a couple of uplift days a year. About the material... a couple of UK mags, Steve Jones one of them, reckon the alloy is better on the Wilson because the carbon is too stiff.

 @chyu: Yes! The jailbird 29er...likes to take the inside line ;-)

 No high pivot or pulley, I'm out!

 I've been wondering this for years. There was a photo in 2012(ish) of a female mondraker rider with the Marzocchi forks nearly bottomed out an completely banana stanchions.
Not only the stress on the fork but, the performance of a stanchion that isn't straight through its deep hard hit travel

 Sam Hill's custom one-off 2007 Iron Horse Sunday had a head tube angle of 62.5 degrees. This type of head angle has been around for a long time and is not a new thing. When you go below 62, things definitely start to flex more and bind. There was a story somewhere about Fabien Barel testing a 59 or 60 degree HTA and it was waaay too slack. 62-63 will be the go-to for the foreseeable future.

 Steeper head angle handles like crap at high speed...

 @ka-brap: This bike, the 29er wilson, already has reviews that talk about the fork binding in the stanchions on flat terrain because of the head angle. I don't know if that effect performance in real world use at all, but it is a design consideration apparently.

 @qreative-bicycle: On a 29er??? hum...

 You're comment is valid, but a slacker head angle ALSO allows the fork to take oncoming/ horizontal forces much better. The head angle is not ONLY about steering characteristics.

A slack HA might be less effective with vertical forces (like landing of a jump or drop), but with any kind of horizontal forces (like riding through rocks, roots, and anything else in your way), a slacker HA will be much more effective. The 67-62 degree head angle is sort of the middle ground that lets you do both things, AS WELL AS making the bike more stable at speed.

 I think that's a good thing for the team riders. The shorter 27.5 bike leans toward snappy handling and acceleration, and the longer 29 leans toward holding straight line speed. Both can have their advantages in certain situations, but the geo seems to be a good match to the wheel size in each case.

 I almost bought a 2015 wilson before settling on a glory. The medium was way too small and the large just didn't feel right for me. They needed a bit of a stretch!

 @makripper: they needed a stretch for sure. Reach and top tube. They could even lengthen the cs a touch for bigger sizes ,or the 9er, but 460 is ridiculous for all but the tallest people. Shit 450 would be huge for someone 6 ft tall. 62 degree head angle on a 9er compounds the problem for all but the fastest courses. I can see anyone using a 62 ha a fair bit but definitely not all the time. With a 460mm cs and the new long reach never , unless I was 6”4’ plus and at Fort bill or msa. It just has too many limitations as is. No biggy , I won’t be on a 9er regardless. I was just struck by the overall length of evvvverything.
Norco is the most advanced fit for a dh bike. You can adjust the headcups to shorten or lengthen the reach(3settings) and at the same time the rear Center is shorter for smaller sizes or longer for bigger sizes. For instance , I have long torso /short leg, I could buy a small norco Aurum hsp and put the headset cups in the long setting and it’s the size of a medium for reach and it’d have short rear center.
Straight 1.5 headtubes should be standard as well as rear dropout positions. They’d probably sell more bikes instead of people shopping elsewhere, especially if they’re going to design them with extreme numbers

 @won-sean-animal-chin: my medium giant is 426. I'm 5'9 and wish it was 440s i think it's down to preference. All bikes over 5k should have reach adjustable headsets. Agree for sure on the 62/29 issue. Rakes out alot, has the feel of a shorter cockpit and super slow handling. This is now a world Cup DH speed only bike. Too bad really. Not a good trend

 @makripper: ya 440 reach is where I want to be too. 426mm reach is only half an inch off but that’s where we’re at now. Splitting hairs but we’re down to that point now. 460 chainstay is a big hair to split for me but it’s hard for me to gauge what someone 6 foot whatever needs. If I was 5”9’ to 6”1’ ,and was looking at 9er dh bikes, this Wilson wouldn’t be on my short list. Take the old 27.5 Wilson chop the ht to 62, add an inch to the tt, throw on 29” wheels with adjusted B.B. and the old 435ish chainstay and that’s super stable at speed. 460cs and your trapped going straight I’d think. Maybe that’s where the courses and these pros that ride them are at now though. Seems extreme

 @won-sean-animal-chin: 25.4mm to an inch but yeah, you are right about splitting hairs for sure considering what we used to ride lol. 460 is massive for a chainstay. But that number is more part of a whole. I remember when giant went from 26 to 27.5 and shortened the chainstay by 6mm. For some reason the new frame could corner wildly better than the old one.

Yeah what you described sounds about perfect for me haha. We know they have the ability to shorten the rear end by quite a bit. They only increased wheel diameter by 50.15mm so, just over 25mm at the frame to axel. They should be able to keep it tight. Or at least have had it adjustable by 15mm!
I think it will come full circle and they'll dial it back a bit or segment it out. World Cup race or regular Joe regional race builds haha

 @makripper: yes exactly, like you say , 26 to 27.5 and it’s shorter. Betting also this 9er is a tad shorter cs next year

 @won-sean-animal-chin: unless the design itself restricts the cs length due to arc of wheel path in travel. I hope not, or else we'll see a new redesign sooner than later.

 Asking the real questions

 style 112 mid

 Agreed, why always about red boxxer, try switch to another. FVCK!.

 haha, I am not interested in these newer Wilson's, it's alright, I have my eyes on some other brands for the future.

 @boostmaster: what brands/bikes?

 @boostmaster: Now I'm confused, who downvoted that question?

I enjoy watching your videos, I feel like you're a rider I can identify with as opposed to some super human DH racer. I was merely curious as you seem informed and intelligent.

 @LoganKM1982: I certainly didn't downvote you, I don't know why someone does that. But I am not going to say much right now about what I am looking at in the future though.
Thanks!

 @boostmaster: No worries, it was more a question to the mystery downvoter.

Can't wait to see what you end up going with, have a good one

 I wanna know too! They said crankworx whistler but the rather relased the DH bike...

 rad

 they didn't get rid of wallace. Devinci shut the DH race program down for a couple years. Canyon picked him up and Gabe joined in on the fun. Glad to see those guys still on the scene!

 @makripper: And now Magnus is racing Canyon bikes.

 @gonecoastal: not factory. But hope so soon! He's quick