Crank Brothers - Sea Otter 2010 by mikelevy

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Remedy651 (Apr 22, 2010 at 8:06)

sooo do the new Joplin post last more than two weeks of riding? not joking at all. Waiting for RA numbers to send back two posts, super disappointed. I thought maybe one was just a fluke when it pooped out in a month with a handful of rides, but when number 2 took a shit after 4 rides, that is lame. And for Doug13 comment on the 50/50... totally agree when i first got a pair on a new Sunday I thought they'd be amazing... Bahaha pedaling at Angel Fire, NM and they seized up. Candy's on the cyclocross bike are great tho, end on a positive i guess?

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Hummeroid (Apr 22, 2010 at 18:34)

Doubt it. They added one retainer to the post supposedly... whereas the ks i900 has had 3 from the get go. Ive been running one of those posts ragged, AND it has 5" of drop as opposed to 4. Take a look into those if you want one without ridiculous play in 2 weeks!

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wickrider (Apr 22, 2010 at 9:56)

why in the bloody hell would they put torx screws on the stem ?that's just messing with customers.
Crank Brother is so random in their quality and overall designs.
their line of clip pedals are great and reliable, i just love egg beater to mallets
their 50/50 are plain crap ,
don't know about their wheels.

better stop riding the hype wave and stick with the right products instead of coming out with brand new old stuff with new flavors.

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brule (Apr 22, 2010 at 10:18)

SRAM is also going the route of Torx, it adds life to products. Allen keys strip a lot easier and Torx has more surface area = better engagement. The wheels are actually pretty good - I have a set of Iodines and have experienced no issues. The rim is beyond strong. I like the fact that CB is willing to try things that are different and "out of the Box". My only complaint is that I wish that their adjustable posts would improve in longevity as they are the smoothest in function, but close to last in reliability at this point.

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imperator-dshow (Apr 22, 2010 at 7:21)

wow that iodine stem is probably going to sell really well: heavier, more expensive, more complicated and about a 100 times uglier than a thomson x4

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kovaldesign (Apr 22, 2010 at 6:00)

Really glad to see some new quality looking stuff from CB. Especially liking the new regular seatpost and Candy's. Stem steer tube clamp concept is actually very old, but it looks the part with unusual colouring. Lets hope all will be working well.

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vtmtb1 (Apr 22, 2010 at 6:52)

I really like the torx bolt. I still think I would tend to shy away from crank bros just because of their infamous quality issues.

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Infiltrator (Apr 22, 2010 at 0:59)

looks like they are finally taking action to resolve their infamous quality issues! I gotta say, i'm impressed!

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timmins (Apr 22, 2010 at 10:21)

I gotta agree that CB has quality issues but I don't think that this stuff is an improvement. we'll see how well the seatpost fastener will hold up, same goes for the closures on the stems. I'm not interested in being a guinea pig to test out these new designs.

the crank brothers moto should be "we put form before function"

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dwdw (Apr 22, 2010 at 9:13)

Crank Brothers are like are like graphic designers making bike parts. They look awesome, but just don't have the quality. I'm still using their pedals because I love their mud shedding abilities and weight, but they need to be rebuilt almost weekly or the interior begins to rust! It's nice that they are attempting to improve on reliability, but I wouldn't be able to fork out for any of their new products based on the failures of the cranks, adjustable seatpost issues and lousy quality of pedals. Hope it works out for them.

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T-woot (Apr 22, 2010 at 13:24)

crank brothers makes a whole bunch of Sh!t products. They're pedals always break! That stem looks stupid, and the seat post is one of the things made for the biking industry that nobody REALLY needs.. the rest of their stuff is just topped by better products. I hate this company after wasting money of 3 pairs of pedals that all broke after a year or so during normal use.

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gogzee (Apr 22, 2010 at 1:07)

Any chance of some new Flat's?Kinda like my 50/50's but could do with a few tweaks

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doug13 (Apr 22, 2010 at 1:36)

How about some new seals for the 50\50 that don't go in 4 months?

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suicidedownhiller (Apr 22, 2010 at 10:40)

OR some proper machining on the 50/50s so that one color (Half the pedal) doesn't fall off in a month...Happened to me once, and 3 of my friends at the races...

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tamedearth (Apr 23, 2010 at 3:19)

it would also be nice if the screws for the replacement plates were the right length... (otherwise great pedals! 50/50XX)

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wickrider (Apr 22, 2010 at 10:26)

putting a expensivce adjustable seatpost that has a reliability problem makes absolutly no sense to me. yet , i see them as very popular and as if they were the greatest things.

people , get QR seat post collar , they are 100% reliable , cheap and getting on and off the bike take about 4-5 seconds. (get a closer look at cyclo cross biker, good skills is everywhere)
ok , i know. 4-5 seconds can win or loose world champs !...riiiiight. good argument champ.
these are desing for epic AM rides and enduro DH races ,
-if you're in a epic AM ride , take 5 seconds.
-if your racing in the top spots for that single track section in the Mega , get very good sponsors that will garanty their product for your race.

no , noone as been able to sell me the adjustable seat post thing. Not yet anyway.

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Iberian (Apr 22, 2010 at 10:36)

Was looking at the CB pedals just because my Time pedals are 8yrs old now. Nothing wrong with them but figured someone has to have a better pedal out now. I love quality though and abhor the form over function motto.

So any thoughts on those who have moved to the CB pedals?

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mehukatti (Apr 22, 2010 at 14:04)

My Joplin 4 is broken after just four rides. There's ~1.5" of up-down slop in top position, it does't rise up without pulling from seat, and it seems to be leaking some oil for bottom. Read the manual and FAQ with no help (btw, they don't even provide instructions for complete overhaul). This is my second Crank Brothers product that failed. My Power Pump Alloy didn't work at all.

Are they testing their products at all?

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T-woot (Apr 22, 2010 at 17:10)

honestly I sincerely doubt they do any real testing, especially for longevity

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mpathic (Apr 22, 2010 at 9:03)

More of CB's made in Taiwan/China stuff for boutique prices.

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jv86416 (Apr 24, 2010 at 23:24)

can't believe how true this is

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ridekonastuff (Apr 22, 2010 at 6:26)

i cant believe you can pay $375.00 USD for clip on pedals staying unclipped has never been more appealing

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chris-underhill (Apr 22, 2010 at 6:54)

or you could pay $60 USD and have you ever tried it. it makes a major difference.

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mongoosemaniac (Apr 22, 2010 at 12:38)

I had to get replacement plates for my 5050 XX pedals and they dont even fit snug so theres just two little screws holding them in place and they jiggle about like hell!

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benjiscott82 (Apr 22, 2010 at 7:03)

candy 1 for the win on price and weight!!

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clanmember32 (Apr 22, 2010 at 8:24)

$220 for the seatpost!!! it had better make your bike fly....

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captainspaulding (Apr 22, 2010 at 8:44)

Yeah, I thought Thomson Masterpiece's were insane, but this tops that.. I like the saddle mounting system, but christ, where's the budget version? Is there going to be a Cobalt 1 version for $60(like the Candy 1)?

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parksy43 (Apr 22, 2010 at 8:51)

I would have thought that the seatpost system they have would crush your seat rails inwards, unless there's a centre part to support the rails? I hope there is...

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tor-q-ue (Apr 22, 2010 at 6:46)

Who ever had the cobalt cranks ... will def NOT buy a CB stem!!

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intense-identity (Apr 22, 2010 at 0:13)

soooo nice dunno about the stem though!

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lcstay10 (Apr 22, 2010 at 0:18)

nicest thing on the list was the toyota fj cruiser in the background...

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Dymented-Delirium (Apr 22, 2010 at 0:56)

So true. Sure CB's stuff looks fresh, but looks definitely don't make the product.

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klopp (Apr 22, 2010 at 1:20)

wtf?!? why are they using torx bolts throughout the stem?!? i hate those things! i would much rather have allen bolts there.

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tamedearth (Apr 22, 2010 at 1:33)

i not convinced about the allen bolt/torx bolt thing. i have gone through so many cheap allen bolts from manufacturers who think its a good place to save money on production. definitely willing to give torx bolts a try!

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ebo421 (Apr 22, 2010 at 4:06)

torx bolts = 25x better than allen.

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bansheeripper (Apr 22, 2010 at 8:09)

Torx are so much less likely to strip than allen's, and anyone who works on their bike should have torx for their disc brake rotors(and before someone says it, Yes I know there's more than one size)...

I think that stem look sick! I love the two-tone ano.

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luckxc (Apr 22, 2010 at 10:05)

just another tool to bring a long... Also, if you're stripping hex you're a complete hack.

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klopp (Apr 22, 2010 at 11:04)

i just hate how shallow most torx bolts are. in the pnw they get all mucked up/collect rust which makes it a pain to use.

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bansheeripper (Apr 22, 2010 at 14:01)

@ luckxc, you don't need to be a hack for hex bolts to strip, it happens every day around the world in professional shops.

@ klopp, if the bolts on your bike are rusted, you just ain't taking propper care of it!

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klopp (Apr 22, 2010 at 14:21)

i talking about water collecting in the bolt heads after riding in the mud and then washing it (read: taking care of the bike). inevitably rust will build up, which is why i prefer the deeper heads of most hex bolts (plus they are easier to scrap dirt and other grime out of than a torx.

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bansheeripper (Apr 22, 2010 at 14:32)

"i talking about water collecting in the bolt heads" "which is why i prefer the deeper heads of most hex bolts" Uuuuh isn't the deeper head gonna hold more water which will take longer to evaporate and cause more rust???

"easier to scrap dirt and other grime out" It's all easy with the right tool:
www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/397201/2/istockphoto_397201-ice-pick-awl.jpg

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chochocho (Apr 22, 2010 at 17:24)

what CB needs to do now is make a direct mount stem for our dual crown forks.

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bansheeripper (Apr 22, 2010 at 18:55)

^^^ Oh, I bet that would be hot enough to

over

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luckxc (Apr 22, 2010 at 19:22)

I completely disagree. The only way you're gonna strip a hex is by using the wrong sized key or if the tool is not completely inserted.

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iamamodel (Apr 22, 2010 at 20:26)

I hate Torx and here's why:

1. MTB is all about repairing stuff in the field and who wants to take TWO sets of keys with you?
2. Some above say that you can do Torx up tighter than hex - that's great - but what would you prefer to strip - the head on the bolt, or the part it is threaded into?
3. How many Nm does a stem plate need? 6? 8? You can achieve that EASILY with a hex - you don't need Torx to do it up tighter.
4. Something is weaker on Torx - the tools themselves. Last night I was working on a bike in the shop and all the T30 key heads were snapped (I wanted to replace the Al crank bolts for SS). I had to use a T30 bit. The T25 keys are mostly snapped too. There is not one snapped hex key in the shop.
End rant.

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freeridermtb (Apr 22, 2010 at 6:10)

stuff looks cool but i really don't know about that post i wouldn't mind tryin it out

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Quinn-39 (Apr 22, 2010 at 7:41)

I'd take candy from those strangers.

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ROL-ANDO (Apr 22, 2010 at 11:40)

I like the steam , great work on it............

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a-m-c (Apr 22, 2010 at 20:38)

Crank Bros is like the Mac-computer of the bike world. So sleek.

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Jobobasaurus (Apr 22, 2010 at 21:21)

whats the price for the joplin seat post?

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alexblayden (Apr 28, 2010 at 16:27)

100 million billion dollars

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Jobobasaurus (Apr 29, 2010 at 19:49)

thanks, do you think you can order it from a local shop?