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Does anyone here with the JAB ever have issues with the chain coming off the "narrow wide" of the top pulley during back to back choppy sections? This is happening to me almost every ride. I haven't put in the upgraded clutch yet (I'm lazy), but my buddy that also has a JAB with the upgraded clutch has had it happen to him as well...so I don't think that will be a 100% miracle. It's getting frustrating.

@owl-X: basic hammock but a Ridgeline and descending rings suspension. But we have a pop-up camper so my hammock camping days are done. Mostly just a hungover nap device now

I've run the big version of these since they came out. They are "OK" at best. I still have them on my XC/Trail bike, but that's purely because I spent too much money on them and need to run them until they die. Also, I came up with the hammock analogy long ago and someone at PB must be reading my texts. PROS: 1) They are comfy. The weird giant hole is actually more comfortable than a traditional pedal. I like to think of it like sitting in a hammock. You don't fall to the ground, but the hard parts of your body aren't bearing any weight and it's comfortable. 2) They help me with technical climbs when you get "hung up" and your feet want to move towards the front of the bike and slip a pedal. This stops that. You can just spin and smash and their design keeps you locked in. Again with the hammock analogy...it's like being in a hammock in the back of a van. The hammock is running side to side (it's a wide van). When someone slams on the brakes the hammock just rocks back and forth and you don't get a jolt. If you were just laying on the floor, you would slide forward and it wouldn't be fun. CONS: 1) These things got removed from my "big bike" after a single trip for a muddy Pisgah weekend. Every "dab" leaves me hunting to place my foot back on the pedal, and sometimes the freaking thing is upside down and as slippery as goose crap. It's just too much work on sketchy trails to keep your feet on these things if you are a hack rider like me. You know when you ride with one of those dweebs on clipless pedals and you watch them take 5 minutes to get clipped in after a dab...well now you are that dweeb looking down while trying not to die on a sketchy bit of trail. You know how much of a pain it can be to get in and out of a hammock a bunch of times? That. 2) Any amount of debris stops the pendulum action and it won't self level quickly (or at all). I've had to clean/lube them, which requires removing them from the bike, at least every 4-5 rides. This is too much work for too little benefit. You ever been in a hammock that is stuck upside down so you can't get in it? Me either, but these pedals invented that. There ya go...maybe if you love techy climbs but hate clipping in...these are for you. Beyond that I wanted to love them, but I can't. Hammock

@ShopMechanic: In this case the issue is being able to put spacers ABOVE the stem. Once you get the top cap torqued to spec and tighten the stem bolts down, they don't even need to be there anymore. I feel like a lot of overthinking is going on here. My Chris King headset top-cap needs so little torque I'm 90% sure you could use play-dough spacers to get the top cap to spec and take all play out of the headset.

@Bro-LanDog: Agreed...but how do you know these will fail if someone doesn't try them? I'd rather my cranks not fail, period. Yet here we are strapping carbon cranks on bikes. Someone has to try them to know how well they do. I'm OK being that guy with brakes. I've been that guy with cranks. I lived to tell the story, so a one brake stop doesn't scare me so much.

@Bro-LanDog: Meh...you can say the same about any part on any bike. The chances of both going at the same time seems low. I'd rather lose one brake than almost any other component on a bike. Plus, I see people riding expensive carbon cranks all the time, and I've seen so many of those implode. I'd rather lose one brake than 1 crankarm.

I literally just ordered some Frog Wakes after that article. I'm going to try them on my rig, and when they are complete failure's my wife's bike needs some new brakes to not get ridden but twice a year. But what if they are actually great?!

I would make sex to this frame.

Got access to a 3d printer? You could easily print some thin walled spacers that would survive long enough to take the play out of the headset.

Is there an option for a "bundle" that I am not seeing?