Race Face 2012: Exclusive First Look - Eurobike 2011

Aug 31, 2011

by Julian Coffey

SIXC: THE WORLD'S LIGHTEST DH RACE CRANK?

Building on the success of their proprietary Canadian carbon manufacturing program, Race Face has made some impressive expansions to the SIXC line of cranks for 2012. The addition of an 83mm spindle, 165mm length and removable granny spider make the 2012 SIXC a formidable DH race option coming in at a scant 650g (165mm, 83mm, 36T ring, including Turbine BB). This is a full 100g lighter than any other full carbon DH crank that we know of.

NEW FOR 2012
• 165/83 Size
• Steel Pedal Inserts - Upgraded from 7075-T6 to CrMo steel
• Fat tab technology - Burly 4.5mm Chainring tab standard

Using Race Face's propriety optimized carbon technology, the SIXC crankset is completely hollow, with all unnecessary material removed from the centre core. The composite arms are 100% carbon with no internal aluminum spine. Here's a look at the guts of a SIXC crank, or rather no guts, just hollow carbon goodness.

SIXC features a specifically engineered, superlight, CNC machined CrMo spindle that directly moulded into the drive side crank arm to minimize weight and maximize power transfer. 3mm of chainline adjustability ensures the ability to achieve perfect drivetrain alignment even with difficult suspension frame designs and is ideal for fine-tuning shifting chainguide set-ups.

BUILT FOR:
DH Race/Light FR
SIZE:
165, 170, 175 in 68/73mm BB shell - 165, 170 in 83mm BB shell
Also available with BB92 press-fit
WEIGHT:
650g (165mm, 83mm, 36T ring, including BB)
750g (170mm, 68/73MM, 24/36/Bash, including BB)
B.C.D: 64/104mm
RING CONFIGURATIONS:
Single 36T
24/36/BASH
Armset w/BB
COLOUR: Matte Carbon

NEXT SL 2X10 CRANKS

The NEXT SL 2X10 crank represents the next generation of Race Face carbon cranks, hand made in Canada. Weighing in at an astounding 595g including BB, Next SL 2X10 cranks are the lightest, strongest 100% carbon fiber MTB cranks ever made. Race Face has created a crank that goes beyond existing carbon material & process limitations, setting a new benchmark in performance XC race and trail components.

2x10 Turbine rings: 26-38 config - still machined in BC, Canada.

Turbine X-Type - all shaved down with some fancy new innards.

BUILT FOR:
XC Racing/Trail
SIZE:
170, 175mm & 68/73mm BB shell. Also available with BB92 press-fit or BB30 conversion bottom bracket assembly
WEIGHT: complete with bb
595g (26-38T, 175mm)
610g (28-40T, 175mm)
CHAINLINE:
49.5mm (48.5-50.5mm adjustable)
B.C.D: 80/120mm
RING CONFIGURATION:
26/38 Turbine 10 speed
28/40 Turbine 10 speed
COLOUR:
Gloss Carbon

ATLAS

Introducing the second generation Atlas cranks, Race Face's lightest big hit freeride cranks ever. Continuing to utilize the same proprietary OPTIM-AL alloy (20% stronger than 7050), these cranks have been updated to utilize our EXI (external ISIS) interface for improved installation and removal.

NEW FOR 2012
• 31 to 81grams lighter than 2011 - 822g (165x36T, w 68/73 + BB) 842g (165x36T, w83 + BB)
• EXI interface complete with self extracting puller cap
• Fat tab technology – Burly 4.5mm Chainring tab standard
• Light weight removable granny ring
• Updated graphics
• Raw finish option

ATLAS BARS

NEW FOR 2012
• High rise (1.25’)
• With updated graphics across the line.

Wide and stealthy, Atlas bars are the de facto upgrade for any ripper.

2012 PROTECTION

The Race Face 2012 protection line is all about the elbows! Low-profile, comfortable elbow designs that won't slip down mid-ride. The New Ambush Elbow features d3o technology and pairs with returning Ambush Knee & Flank Leg; offering riders the ultimate in setup flexibility. Aesthetic updates to the pads highlight the new RF race moniker.

New Dig Elbow offers a hard shell alternative with soft shell look and feel. The Dig Knee gets the open-back treatment this season incorporating the 'easy-on, easy-off ' design technology from it's d3o counterpart, the Ambush. - Pad up with no shoe removal! The Dig's younger brother, Digger Elbow & Knee, also launch this season so younger shredders can go low-profile.

2012 APPAREL

SPRING SUMMER GEAR: FOR HIM

Like green? Vibrant Green is strong through the 2012 line offering a fresh option to many of the other more pedestrian black and grey offerings out there. The Ambush short returns with exclusive Race Face Tweedster fabric. A DH kit stylish enough to evoke a compliment from even your crustiest buddy yet burly enough not to fall apart the first time you eat shit.

BLOCK COLLECTION: STREET MEETS PERFORMANCE

Designed for riders who seek performance in a casual package, the Block collection includes jerseys designed to look and fit just like comfy tees, technical stretch denim jeans that allow a full range of motion, a technical jacket and super light slip-on glove.

SPRING SUMMER GEAR: FOR HER

New Khyber Elbow teams up with the Khyber Open-Back Knee this season offering hard shell protection with a soft shell look and feel. This isn't just a scaled down version of men's protection; the Khyber is built for female-specific fit. The elbow is low-profile, comfortable and hugs just enough so it won't slip down mid-ride and the easy-on-off technology in the Khyber Knee construction allows you to pad up quickly when the trail warrants.

The Khyber short became a must-have in gear closets for 2011; 'the little black dress of downhill'. This season it returns with Race Face exclusive Tweedster fabric in three colour options (black, gravel and vibrant green) and kits out with matching Khyber elbow, knees, glove and jersey.

For more info, check out raceface.com.

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Julian Coffey

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123 Comments

Skittleslolz (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:13)

They are LIGHT AS F*CK!

alex-DH-life (Aug 31, 2011 at 2:05)

+1 for Race Face !

And please make the guy making that CRAZY table top POD !

reallybigmantis (Aug 31, 2011 at 2:41)

that guy is mitch chubey +1 for him as well

1015

ribo88 (Aug 31, 2011 at 4:50) (Below Threshold)

www.pinkbike.com/photo/6732262 thank you. "worlds lightest dh cranks" yeah right, or maybe they were up about the "race" term?

anyway i LOVE raceface parts, and i am so happy that the superb parts are comming out...and the new range of parts is realy off the hook! Go RF!

RaleighVoid (Aug 31, 2011 at 5:26)

Brilliant. a hollow crank. As everyone knows, hollow section is stronger. My mate second moment of area says so.

mcmbike (Aug 31, 2011 at 6:40)

Still think they need to come out with a "resurrection" line

Knife-in-the-dark (Aug 31, 2011 at 7:07)

A PF 30 option would be awesome as well.

zorba73 (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:49)

Race Face- Optimized Carbon Technology. OCT. Truvativ - Open Core Technology. OCT.

midwest-mtb FL (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:52)

I bet if they used titanium pedal inserts they could save even more...

sneeck (Aug 31, 2011 at 12:22) (Below Threshold)

i'm a hardcore RF fan with loads of their parts on various bikes, but please don't pretend to be the lightest.

lp1.pinkbike.org/p4pb6732262/p4pb6732262.jpg

83 / 170mm

that having said, PLEASE make matching SIXC carbon seatposts, in orange/white decals to match the crank and bar.

Raceface-Suit (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:11)

This is the lightest, mass produced DH crank that is will be readily available worldwide. Admittedly there may be smaller boutique companies making products that are light and claimed to be at a DH strength, but we would love to see if that crank you point out would pass all the testing standards that the SIXC crank passes in our in-house testing.

DH-Til-I-Die (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:36)

Raceface's carbon cranks look better

gurdip (Aug 31, 2011 at 17:34)

my BB broke after like 10 rides was not to impressed cost me like a 100 bucks for a new BB got shimano one this time but still reppin the raceface cranks make better bbs

sneakypit (Aug 31, 2011 at 17:56)

no 36T ring on that scale....probably still a lot lighter than race face... but doesn't exactly compare the weight between the two brand.

paulclarke (Aug 31, 2011 at 19:04)

WOW!!! good old clavavacalavs ??!?? lol... Race Face are guaranteed to be 1000 times stronger. I made carbon cranks too ya know, with old seat posts, ducked tape and crazy glue. They weight in at 237g.

carbonlite (Sep 1, 2011 at 13:59)

if your bb broke after 10 rides it probably wasn't installed properly, though it could have been a manufacturer defect too. Did you get in touch with the RF warranty guys, or talk to the shop you got the cranks at? they are pretty helpful and thats really where the company shines by still being in canada.

crs-one (Sep 1, 2011 at 14:13)

Information that contradicts a press release's claims? Better negative-prop as hard as I can. Stay classy, Pinkbike.

Not sure where anyone gets off saying "this brand new crank I've never seen is definitely stronger than this exotic crank I've never heard of before".

Raceface-Suit (Sep 2, 2011 at 9:39)

Gurdip- All Race Face BB's do come with a 1 year term of warranty, so definitely take yours back to your dealer and we can sort you out with a new one. In 2010 we revamped our BB's and bearings; the reliability, performance, and overall lifespan of the BB has improved drastically since the changes. Thanks for riding Race Face!!

WestCoastRider7 (Sep 11, 2011 at 14:21)

Lookin' classy rf, great to see new stuff that looks 10x better than the other brands

rhys-the-rider (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:51)

the woman's legs wearing the knee pads is strangely arousing...

Worm-Burner (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:53)

I prefer the knee pad with nobody in it...phwooooar...

Steamer19 (Aug 31, 2011 at 12:24)

I hope that's a woman's leg and not some shaven roadie leg.

mantasv (Aug 31, 2011 at 13:57)

Over here XC guys shaves not only legs...

don't imagine what's with the road guys...

brycepiwek (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:16)

Raceface is back from the brink and Killing it!

Raceface-Suit (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:45)

Thanks to all for the positive feedback. We are so happy to be back on the scene and we are so pumped on our new 2012 product line. We will continue to keep pushing forward, innovating and creating sweet gear that we will all want to ride!

541freeryde (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:15)

THE LEGEND CONTINUES

gdubs (Aug 31, 2011 at 2:33)

RaceFace is back in a BIG way. I have owned the Carbon Sixc Cranks for a season and thrown everything at them. Two intense weeks in the Whistler bike park, rocky downhill sessions in Hawaii, and miles and miles of All MTN riding with roots, rocks and plenty of knar and they have performed flawlessly! They are super light, farken stiff as hell and look cool as shit. These cranks are the beez neez! The DH cranks should be the same...Go RaceFace!!

mikeinjasper (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:53)

I agree, and love Race Face. I just wanted to correct you "Gnar" not Knar. LOL

mikeinjasper (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:54)

gdubs- nice photo on the GLC Drop BTW!

jez9540 (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:56)

Good to see a company come back from the beyond the brink of disaster!! Shame it wasn't done with companies like Iron Horse.

TheGoose (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:20)

so when did raceface go from closing to seemingly being completely fine? i swear i've never read anything about WHY they survived . . .

hoolydooly (Aug 31, 2011 at 5:16)

someone bought the company. i cant remember his name but he has had a lot to do with the sport and knows what hes doing.

mtnbykr05 (Aug 31, 2011 at 8:48)

Haha, ya he knows the sport real well. He was 2nd up in the Company before it went under. He bought it back.

IanHylands (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:03)

We did a post on it back in May, you can find it here

TheGoose (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:52)

cheers Ian, loving the fact that you get neg props on here just for inquiring haha

IanHylands (Aug 31, 2011 at 10:01)

Yeah I tend to ignore props for the most part, nothing wrong with asking an honest question...

swearmouth (Aug 31, 2011 at 7:01)

Love everything I saw, except for the fact that they ditched the shore trail map graphics for their atlas stuff. Obviously this is purely aesthetics and in no way affects how they'll perform, but it was always my favourite thing about my atlas bars/cranks.

Raceface-Suit (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:19)

The crank shown is the Stealth color - which along with the new 'Raw' finish will have different graphics that the other available Atlas colors. The new graphic samples came in to late to have 'pro' pictures taken so that is why the Stealth crank is shown....this is also true of the new Atlas bars - new graphic on all colors except the Stealth bar (pictured above) will have its own look. The new graphic on ATLAS will still have the 'Topo theme to it - proper images of the new Atlas line will be out in the next day or too.....Sorry for the confusion

plutonium10 (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:45)

The Stealth finish looks great (I have a pair of Atlas Stealth bars on my Wilson), but sadly it seems to scratch/wear off fairly easily compared to the finish on my previous bars. Still great bars though, perfect geo and really light.

MountainTracksMedia (Aug 31, 2011 at 18:21)

Stoked for the women's line. Keeps getting better and better! The open-back kneepads will be so convenient! (They look great too.) And the shorts look like a rad combo of style in a high-performance fabric. Thanks for all the research effort for us ladies, too!

wonny (Aug 31, 2011 at 19:26)

I bought my first Race Face product back in 98! I'm rooting for the new Race Face. I just hope they don't get all sideways trying to make everything under the sun. Focus on core competencies first. Does the market really need women's free ride apparel from Race Face? Maybe those resources could go to men's apparel for starters.

Raceface-Suit (Sep 1, 2011 at 9:21)

We are still sticking with our core product line for sure.....we have been making Women focused riding clothing and armor for 3 seasons already, so it is not a new thing for us. There are more and more women out on the trails shredding and Race Face is proud to be designer top notch gear for women riders. Thanks for riding Race Face.

ShopMechanic (Sep 1, 2011 at 20:53)

I'm impressed Race Face. All you need to do now is get rid of the shim system for preloading the bottom bracket bearings and go with a system that does not require taking the cranks on and off to get it just right. That issue aside, great work on the new line, really digging it.

Maverickdh00 (Sep 2, 2011 at 12:32)

RF Atlas, re comments on coming loose what BS Ive run Atlas since the day they became available Ive had deus on my trail bikes and AM bikes and now running it on my single speed, thats 3 bikes that crank has been on, I had Diablous same interface on my old Dh bike and that cranks could smash mountains it was so strong too strong in fact and too stiff if that is possible. Ive had Atlas FRs 165s since on 09 and now on my current DH bike and Iv never had one come loose, or had a damaged spindle interface. Its installation and setup that munt the cranks. They aren't the easiest to mount maybe but not hard either, just a few more knowledgeable patient minutes and you're done. Shimano type crank interfaces you could probably do when your drunk, Atlas interface best put together when sober the key difference

christiaan FL (Aug 31, 2011 at 3:56)

Nope, my Clavicula DH crankset, 170mm/83mm BB is 482 grams, cranks, BB, mounting bolts

IanHylands (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:15)

I don't think you can include something that has been described as "one of the rarest mountain bike cranksets available" and costs over $1200.00 US if you can get them, in a comparison with a regular production crankset.

christiaan FL (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:24)

Me 2, me 2, haha, hope they last, although I know someone who really used his, in rock gardens too, they are still in one piece, only a bit less pretty.....

IanHylands (Aug 31, 2011 at 13:11)

As well as the THM Carbones Clavicula cranks there are also other ultralight options such as the Lightning Carbon Cranks. I really wish we could get a few of these incredibly expensive little bits of carbon and do a proper comparison over time.

dirtbiker100 (Aug 31, 2011 at 15:22)

Also I've heard the clavicula crankset may not fit all frames due to the narrow Q-factor on them?
I'd definitely plump for these raceface ones over the clavicula. next question price in £? I'm tempted!

adam-silver (Sep 1, 2011 at 2:45)

nice to see race face are going strong after all the issues theyve had in the past year or so. the carbon cranks look shweeeet !!!

boo86 (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:52)

Good to see Race Face back in the game.

brooce (Aug 31, 2011 at 3:25)

"SPRING SUMMER GEAR: FOR HIM" - sounds like a cheap commercial's slogan of a "normal" brand... They could take a little bit of effort to create less trashy name of collection

It's RACE FACE after all!

misterpeanut (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:27)

now those are properly built carbon DH cranks. it's like the down tube protector... a total no brainer. glad to see RF is back and has cool innovations.

Gora (Aug 31, 2011 at 13:16)

My xt crank fitted on 83mm shell whit 36th. is only 664g. and enybody is no making big wow, the second year running My glory is happy whit him

Snowdog85 (Sep 1, 2011 at 5:36)

Soo where are the pictures of Atlas 2 bars and stems??
www.facebook.com/home.php#!/photo.php?fbid=366892484986&set=pu.114614224986&type=1&theater

thebiggestben (Sep 1, 2011 at 10:52)

Awsome to see you guys back at the top.. had us all worried for a while.. and no not just regarding warranties

loam2home FL (Sep 1, 2011 at 11:58)

Funny to see Mitch on a Demo8... he's sponsored by Morpheus Bikes. I was thinking it maybe an old photo session but he's rocking the new shorts.

Raceface-Suit (Sep 2, 2011 at 9:28)

**Check the Race Face Facebook page for some images of the NEW ATLAS graphics and interface - plus other goodies as well !!

www.facebook.com/RacefacePerformance

FindlayReade (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:10)

oh my... its, amazing.

NicholasCasswell (Aug 31, 2011 at 12:16)

Dude..so sexy. RF is still going so sttrong. those carbon cranks are so light, and so sexy. And those bars....

deadatbirth (Aug 31, 2011 at 8:41)

holy crap, they finally moved the spindle to the drive side?!?!

Maverickdh00 (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:47)

Awesome, Bigger Badder and Faster than before - all the best for the new RaceFace, Love those DH cranks and RF jeans yeah

pegarmixel (Aug 31, 2011 at 15:10)

Remember: The THM Clavicula DH Crank are rb. 200gr. lighter than Racefaces cixs...

mvonhollen (Aug 31, 2011 at 16:39)

For a second I thought it said that the female rider was Mason Mashon and I was like.. LOL! Good one raceface.

Nobble (Aug 31, 2011 at 18:37)

Any word on the MSRP of the new atlas cranks and sixc cranks?

dazem (Nov 19, 2011 at 9:00)

www.pinkbike.com/photo/7403796/#top

ridindurty831 (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:16)

I know where my paycheck is going now! JAYSUS.

pokalface (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:11)

so good,steel inserts is stiff...

deadatbirth (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:02)

thats probably not why they did it. theres no way you can tell if a aluminum insert is stiffer than a steel insert.

boylagz (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:15)

Sick products for 2012. Nice one RF!

Walrus666 (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:32)

Looking good. The carbon cranks are attached non drive side so why aren't they doing it with the atlas cranks yet though?!?

downhillbmxican (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:50)

atlas is aimed more towards freeriders/dirt jumpers who would rather take the little weight penalty and have the strength. that being said, i am NOT saying that those carbon cranks are not as strong. that, and im sure costs will be wanted to be kept down.

Raceface-Suit (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:42)

The ATLAS keeps the non drive side spindle so we can maintain the larger chainline adjustabiltly options that the older Atlas FR crank had. This chainline adjustment option makes it a lot easier when setting up chainguides.

Walrus666 (Aug 31, 2011 at 16:05)

Splines on the drive side just tend to come loose quicker, nothing to do with strength. And spacers on either side of the bb would change the chain line

taletotell (Aug 31, 2011 at 17:13)

Those Atlas make me want them for christmas. I wonder what the wife will say . . .

caldwellvisuals (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:34)

oooo i see some nice gear. cant beat Raceface!

WAKIdesigns (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:56)

Those SIXC and Next SL cranks are very mouth watering

IanHylands (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:15)

Yes they are, I was drooling over them while I was shooting them....

jizzy-b (Aug 31, 2011 at 3:25)

respect to rf! back with a bang! and more importantly i can haz a warrantee again!

chochocat (Aug 31, 2011 at 3:30)

Race face is backkk

mtbartek (Aug 31, 2011 at 4:08)

after all, supposed to be the end of Face Face, had to close production
RF could it be revived?!

muchentuchen (Aug 31, 2011 at 4:17)

What's the EXI or External ISIS interface? Is it similar to ISIS, with the bearings outside?

Raceface-Suit (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:38)

EXI is the interface that has been used on RaceFace XC like the Next, Deus (after 2008) and Evolve (after 2008). It is an external bearing , 2 piece crank system the uses splines based on ISIS design. It is extremely durable, user friendly for install and service, plus it is lighter than the interface that its replacing on the ATLAS.

Raceface-Suit (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:57)

Where did those smiley faces come from!!...lol... What I was trying to say - the Deus XC and Evolve XC cranks after 2008, along with the NEXT /SIXC cranks use the Race Face EXI interface.

muchentuchen (Aug 31, 2011 at 18:02)

So its different from the X-Type.

Raceface-Suit (Sep 1, 2011 at 9:25)

Yes the EXI system is different from X-Type. The production samples of the new Atlas cranks, bars and direct mount stems (all with new graphics as week) came in to late to get photoed for this article. So we went with the Stealth images for the crank and bar - as the Stealth graphic is the same going forward. Proper and current images of the new Atlas line will be out in the next day or two.....Sorry for the confusion.

muchentuchen (Sep 3, 2011 at 4:26)

Hoping that someone becomes a RF dealer in my country, willing to try Atlas FRs.

mtnfox37 (Aug 31, 2011 at 6:27)

I gotta get me a set of those shorts!!!

ninjatarian (Aug 31, 2011 at 7:17)

I think I feel a new pair of cranks coming on...

sngltrkmnd (Aug 31, 2011 at 7:57)

Good looking kit... let's all hope they can deliver. Literally.

howshow (Aug 31, 2011 at 8:07)

Looking great!

michael-douven (Aug 31, 2011 at 10:44)

Happy to see raceface back!

campofchampions (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:32)

MMMMMMM Can't wait to put these on our bikes next year! Ken

nikitoy (Aug 31, 2011 at 16:17)

Thank god!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...RACEFACE is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Caezar (Aug 31, 2011 at 16:28)

Great to know they are back. Sick new stuff

northwestdhdad (Aug 31, 2011 at 18:12)

I want Brett Tippies old cranks!

davidstuartkelly (Aug 31, 2011 at 23:30)

All looks tasty to me, all i need now is some money...

loam2home FL (Sep 1, 2011 at 12:26)

RF is back on and good to see Mitch rocking a Demo

ButtonPusher (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:36)

Lookin' good RaceFace..!

nouser (Aug 31, 2011 at 0:44)

RaceFace is back !

liquidas (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:11)

Race Face have the best components in the world!!!

fill12 (Aug 31, 2011 at 1:19)

wow!

surupel (Aug 31, 2011 at 3:06)

Sweet... RaceFace Rules!

mountguitars (Aug 31, 2011 at 2:09)

i wish they posted the price too. even if it were estimates.

pip1991 (Aug 31, 2011 at 3:08)

Do the DH cranks have a bash guard at the end of the crank arm?

rubberducky69 (Aug 31, 2011 at 6:38)

glad to see raceface come back even stronger than they were before!

benhope (Aug 31, 2011 at 8:45)

sick bars

NWA911 (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:54)

will it blend ?

DownhillisChill (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:41)

race face is the best!

voodoo5 (Sep 1, 2011 at 9:02)

dang RF looks spot on

JonnyNorthshore (Sep 2, 2011 at 13:25)

RaceFace is back baby!!!

bigburd (Aug 31, 2011 at 10:36)

I think the female pads are made from ponies and kittens fur.

Raceface-Suit (Aug 31, 2011 at 14:32)

CarlosMC - The Khyber Woman's knee pad was designed specifically for women by getting a lot of feedback from women riders and by looking at statistical differences between the general dimensions of male and females legs and knees. The pad uses a hard shel specifically made for this product along with sizing and fit parameters that corresponded to the data and feedback we had collected.

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rubbman (Aug 31, 2011 at 6:57)

Race Face is producing fome mighty fine bike parts! However they will not recive any of my hard earned $$$ due to thier business ethics(i.e. big sponserships then bankrupting a couple weeks later)!

mtnbykr05 (Aug 31, 2011 at 8:51)

They didn't bankrupt. They was something like tax evasion or fraud. They basically lied about how much was made that year and years prior. And that was why the head guy is gone, and the remaining people got it back, and still have jobs.

IanHylands (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:07)

Actually they did go bankrupt, and the company was purchased by Chris Tutton who used to be VP of Race Face before going to work for Easton. So business ethics have nothing to do with it. Basically it's a completely new company with a bunch of the same employees, making the same parts and some new ones....

mulchee (Aug 31, 2011 at 9:46)

and I can tell you the money issues had nothing to do with sponsorship thats for sure.

rubbman (Aug 31, 2011 at 10:05)

so mr hylands you feel that it is appropriate to offer HUGE sponserships knowing that your biz is on the verge of bankruptcy?

IanHylands (Aug 31, 2011 at 10:07)

No, but that was a completely different company than the Race Face that exists now. This company has completely different ethics than the last one.

rubbman (Aug 31, 2011 at 10:11)

Will the same employees make the same false promises? They may have a new owner but who is to say that they have new ethics?

rubbman (Aug 31, 2011 at 11:33)

Thank you for the added insight! I will now think about product quality over business ethics! I just hope that the new raceface is a stand up company(otherwise straightline will get most of my $$)!

paulclarke (Aug 31, 2011 at 19:09)

rubbman, no one cares who gets ur money.

rubbman (Sep 1, 2011 at 8:19)

Sure they do.