Rotwild Generation X - First Look

Apr 28, 2016
by Paul Aston  
Rotwild Generation X

Rotwild, the German Deer, heads into its 20th year of business with a heritage built upon racing thoroughbreds and a few wacky downhill bikes 'back in the day.' For 2017, the brand from Dieburg, introduces the Generation X: a 140mm chassis that's ready to take 27.5", 27.5+ and 29er wheels, a full carbon or aluminum frame, adjustable head angle, chainstay length and even an electric-assist bike that shares the same geometry. Ranging from €4799 up to a Euro shy of eight grand, the Generation X series is expected to hit stores in October this year.

Rotwild Generation X

Rotwild Generation X
R.X2 Details:
• Full carbon chassis
• Frame sizes S / M / L / XL
• Three wheel size options: 27.5 (Trail), 27.5+ (Traction) and 29 (Transalp)
• 140 mm XCS suspension system
• Boost 148mm hub spacing
• Adjustable head angle 65.5º, 67º, 68.5º
• Seat tube adjusted to 150mm
• Custom tuned Fox rear shocks
• ISCG-05
• E-Type side swing front derailleur
• Fully integrated cable routing in with internal rubber foam seals
• Steering head stiffness: 87 Nm/°
• Bottom bracket stiffness: 106 N/mm
• €4699 - €7999
• Expected October 2016

The full carbon flagship model, the RX.2 boasts a frame weight of 2040 grams (claimed) which puts it in line with some cross country race bikes but with travel and geometry aimed towards general mountain bikers over racing whippets. An alloy frame is also an option and there is and alloy framed e-bike in the same range which uses a Brose motor and integrated battery. Adjustability is key with the Generation X as there is space on all models to fit your wheel size of choice; the bikes are specced with wheel options monikered Trail/27.5" wheels, Traction/27.5+ and Transalp/29". The geometry stays the same regardless of wheel size as Rotwild say the radius of the wheel and tires only changes about 14mm between the smallest and largest wheels, and more important than the riders distance from the ground is to have a geometry and riding position will always feel the same for the rider. Four frame sizes are available with a wide range of reach numbers from 400mm to 475mm, in almost perfect 25mm increments. Stack height also changes around 10mm per size.

Rotwild Generation X
Rotwild Generation X

Bikes are supplied with Rotwild's own angled headset cups which give a zero, -1.5º or + 1.5º change. The head angle is 67º as standard, and can drop to 65.5º which could make one of the slacker 140mm/29" bikes of the moment.

Rotwild Generation X

The frame uses a full compliment of stainless bearings including the lower shock mount where DU bushes usually take care of any rotation.

Rotwild Generation X
Rotwild Generation X

Chainstay length is adjustable between 422.5 and 435mm, but only the 27.5' wheel can use either, plus or 29" wheels must use the longer setting.

Rotwild Generation X
Rotwild Generation X

Rotwild Generation X

Rotwild Generation X
Rotwild Generation X

Rotwild Generation X

The Rotwild appears to be loaded with all the finishing touches that we expect nowadays like internal cable routing, customized seat and clamp, integrated chainstay and chain-suck protection, stealth dropper routing and even though front derailleurs have been officially pronounced dead the RX still has a mounting option and removable ISCG tabs.

Rotwild Generation X

All the bits and pieces you might need for angles, adjustments and wheel sizes. The red ring (bottom left) is a guard that can be bolted on to the granny chainring and will stop the frame being damaged if the chain is dropped.


59 Comments

  • 23 5
 Garda festival. If you nuked it, 99% of bar ends would disappear from the surface of the Earth... Nah, let's embrace the buying force shaping MTB drivetrains. I am happy that almost nobody designs 120+ bikes with those people in mind Big Grin
  • 6 3
 the other day I saw an Epic with bar ends. besides the 2 normal water bottles, one was added to the top of the down tube, plus one on the seat (yo know those tt ones) and tubes strapped with tape. Best part is the guy was also wearing a back pack. I swear on my bikes im not making this up,

sad story is that those people are the actual buying force behind the industry.
  • 13 0
 @fercho25: Someone in our riding group has a S Works enduro with two water bottles and a pump on the cross bar ,reflectors on the wheels and also bar ends ! A little bit of me dies everytime I see this beautiful bike molested !
  • 5 5
 @konacyril: o come on it's just a bike
  • 2 1
 @konacyril: What is a cross bar?
  • 2 0
 @russthedog: Old fashioned saying for a top tube
  • 3 0
 • Steering head stiffness: 87 Nm/°
• Bottom bracket stiffness: 106 N/mm

Just how f*cking hard it is for all manufacturers to cite the exact numbers as opposed to marketing mambo jumbo.
  • 15 1
 So, how do you adjust for the Bottom Bracket Height when switching wheels?
Also it looks like a stumpjumper
  • 4 2
 The article states that they don't consider the 14mm BB height difference between 27.5 and 29 to be that important; basic implication is there is no BB adjustment. It's not just about pedal clearance, a lower CG matters too. In line with the short legs/27.5 vs long legs/29 fitment concept too.

Appears to be well engineered and detailed along with a healthy dose of sticker shock, but I'd prefer a lower HTA adjustment range. 68.5* is not necessary ... 64* - 67* range would be fine for all purpose imo
  • 4 3
 We can argue all we want for low BBs but there will always be some dude coming up and complaining about pedal strikes. Because pedal timing is too hard for some people, they need to stay efficient and must care for those knees. Asphalt, fireroad or rock garden, it ain't matter - they just can't help themselves cranking circles at 90 RPM.
  • 1 0
 Not a difference?
A 351.5 Bottom Bracket on 29" wheeled bike that has only 410mm of travel is normal?
  • 1 0
 I don't know, for a 29er 64* might get to the realms of uncontrollable.
  • 2 0
 @j-t-g: that's what people thought about the even slacker HTAs being used now by other wheel sizes. I'm running 64.5* now with 28.25" OD high volume 27.5", not that much more to be at 29" tire OD, but I'm not entirely sure about the impact of the fork offset difference between the two since I don't have a 29er fork to do a direct comparison. Since HTA is adjustable, I don't see 67* bordering on uncontrollable for 29". The difference is steering with the bars vs. steering with body english ... perhaps going OTB vs. not as well ..
  • 3 0
 @TheUnknownMTBR: I'm running 67* on my 29er right now. It's great. 64 would be absurd.
  • 2 1
 @j-t-g: 64* is great for 27.5 and there are quite a few 29ers that come standard with less than 67*, but again being adjustable your comment is out in left field since there's a 3* range of adjustment to work with on setup. It seems like you didn't get the original point and/or you don't understand the intention of the manufacturers intended multi-wheel size design .... whatever.
  • 7 1
 It's hard not to Schleybel this bike as Euro A.F
  • 7 1
 or label it as a douche canoe
  • 3 1
 @cuban-b: Didn't even read the bike review, just came to say Douche Canoe is the greatest expression ever. That is all.
  • 5 1
 Good job they list bb and heat tube stiffness, i often base my buying soley on these figures
  • 2 3
 really?
  • 13 1
 Because Germany.
  • 8 7
 @mikelevy: I have family living in Riva del Garda. Germans are one thing, there are also Italians in TT sperm suits, or jerseys signed by famous racers, often nearly ripped off those racers. Husband of my sister in law is a pro roadie. When he's on training and stops by one of many fountains to fill his water bottle he's often asked to give away his jersey or helmt or anything. People write letters to him to get stuff, often asking for a bike. In Val Di Sole crowd by the track looked as if they went around pits the night before and stole every piece of team clothing they could.

There are words describing various nationalities on bikes in Europe. Germans are practical to ze bone, Brits are god damn serious about riding hard, Swedes are sloppy, Poles are anxious and intimidated, Italians are Elite but insecure. We all bring something to the table.please accept us.
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns: no one needs to be begged to accept someone

living without prejudices would be fine
  • 4 7
 @vhdh666: prejudice is a strong word and pretending to live without it is a denial of human nature, a thing making us who we are as dominating species (yes I know some people would like to eradicate 99.99999% of human race, they can be referred to as environmental or animal rights fundamentalists - kind of people who salivate at the thought of hurricane destroying cities or man being skinned alive, as a mean of greater justice). That thing is ability to look for patterns. Of course there is also a mechanism that makes us fill the voids in information with stupid and thus harmful sht. There is also comedy which works on the principle of exaggerating certain observed features in order to create more vivid contradiction. Social justice movement can go fk themselves as they simply haven't experienced enough hate speech. Like my aunt telling me as a 5 year old boy about Jews taking blood of young kids. Or a skinhead running through the park behind a black dude shouting White power. In such light getting angry at someone seeing Dutch as smart arses by default is rather laughable... there is an expression: being smallest.
  • 6 0
 @WAKIdesigns: the f*ck are you going on about?...
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: "husband of my sister in law" - Wouldn't that be your brother? It's like some riddle we have to solve anytime we engage Waki Smile
  • 3 1
 @cuban-b: ah sht... Husband of my wives sister.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: its still the same as "husband of my sister in law" as your wives sister is your sister in law. cuban-b is solving a riddle he doesn't need to.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns:

I'd bet you're a riot at parties.
  • 1 0
 @johnnygolucky: yep, and not just at parties
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Thats sloppy, just like Mike said.
  • 4 2
 f*ck off with boost, as soon as I see a bike with boost I think, "well I will never own this bike... next!". I'm not rebuilding any of my sick ass wheels for boost. f*ck you Sram, f*ck you to the moon.
  • 1 0
 Boost isn't a Sram creation.
  • 1 0
 @warmerdamj: Ah, apologies, I thought it was just Trek that created it. They take a lot of credit for it!
  • 2 0
 Stainless bearings instead of bushings. Built in adjustable head tube angle. Accepts all wheel sizes. This isn't marketing B.S.. This is German engineering showing real improvements to bikes.
  • 3 0
 Good idea with the angleset... will be more appealing to a variety of riders.
  • 1 0
 Looks good. Nice to see all of the wheel options but the ol' 26 can be used on this. A long term test with each wheel set be cool. Might take a while to go through all the wheel sets on a long term review though!
  • 1 0
 Um yeah you can fit 26 inch wheels as well. The industry just pretends that 26 inch wheels dont exist.
  • 1 0
 Steering head stiffness: 87 Nm/°
• Bottom bracket stiffness: 106 N/mm

Just how f*cking hard it is for all manufacturers to cite the exact numbers as opposed to marketing mambo jumbo.
  • 3 1
 A bit weird looking, lots of options, lots of money. Yup, it's a Rotwild alright.
  • 3 3
 Wait. I'm confused. It's a shimano/fox build aaaand has boost spacing aaaaaand 1 by??? OMG. I think the world has spun backwards. I kid I kid. Sick looking bike though. 8/10. Would bang.
  • 3 1
 Rotwild is awesome the kinematics on their bikes are always good. I would love to try one.
  • 3 0
 But we can't, because America.
  • 5 2
 Ask Richie Schley to sell you one
  • 2 0
 " Nothing runs like a deer!"
  • 2 0
 Hey..look..another bike with a horst link.. yawn..
  • 2 0
 I love this brand and this bike! Steffen, I want to try it!
  • 1 0
 Ciao David! I'm sure he'll let you try it when he comes visit you next!
  • 3 2
 Looks like a Specialized stumpjumper
  • 1 0
 German stumpy
  • 2 0
 stumpy german
  • 1 0
 The ugly step-sister of a stumpjumper
  • 1 0
 yep, a german stumpish rig.
  • 1 0
 So it's not a bike but ze "cycling device"?
  • 2 2
 I'm all hot and bothered by this bike, and I don't know why.
  • 1 0
 why would a chain drop?
  • 1 2
 billy idol is stoked
  • 1 2
 Looks like a jeffsy





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