Video: Brice Shirbach Explores Unfamiliar Territory in 'Underexposed'

May 1, 2023
by Brice Shirbach  

Words: Brice Shirbach

Underexposed is a self-shot and produced series by Pivot Cycles athlete Brice Shirbach dedicated to showcasing trail advocacy and stewardship while exploring a variety of trails in unfamiliar places. Join Brice as he explores the personal motivations behind the effort that goes into mountain bike advocacy while sampling the trails they work so hard for.


We spend a lot of time praising professional mountain bike athletes and trailbuilders for what they do, and for the record I'm all for it. While advocacy and volunteerism might lack the sex appeal of other dynamics in mountain biking, the reality is that our sport's unsung heroes are the ones attending board meetings, and filling out 501c3 forms, and are often the ones answering to the questions and demands of various other trail user groups.

A peek behind the curtain of a prolific mountain bike association reveals responsibilities and duties that, quite frankly, kind of suck, especially when considering that it's done on a volunteer basis. Advocacy and stewardship is very hard work but it's not without its rewards, and in Tucson, AZ there are two separate but equally tenacious trail associations looking to reap as many rewards for local mountain bikers as possible.

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SDMB (Sonoran Desert Mountain Bicyclists) and TORCA (Tucson Off Road Cycling Activists) have taken a divide and conquer approach to the several hundreds of miles of trail that surrounds the Sonoran Desert oasis that is Tucson, Arizona. The city is the 2nd largest in the state behind Phoenix, with a metro population of over 1,000,000 and growing. It’s 50 miles north of the Mexico border and is surrounded on all sides by 5 minor mountain ranges, including the Rincons to the east, the Santa Ritas to the south, the Tucson Mountains along the western border, and both the Santa Catalinas and the Tortolita Mountains north of the city. Spread out amongst all of that as well as within the city itself is over 350 miles of trail available for mountain bikers, so much so that both trail associations have their hands full managing their respective pieces of the pie.

SDMB deals largely with the city itself, as well as Pima County Parks and Recreation and the US Forest Service specifically for projects on Mount Graham, located about 2 hours east of town. Their “territory” includes trail networks such as Tucson Mountain Park, Fantasy Island, Sweetwater Preserve, Rincon Valley and more.

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TORCA has a more singular, but equally sizable focus: Mount Lemmon. The massive eminence northeast of Tucson reaches an elevation of just under 9,200 feet above sea level. The trails on Lemmon are managed by the United States Forest Service, and TORCA has become the 501c3 partner organization with the USFS, effectively functioning as their trail maintenance arm.

Despite having enormous responsibilities and workloads, both TORCA and SDMB carve out time throughout the year to partner up on trail work days and initiatives as well. The scale of Tucson and the surrounding landscape is stunning and massive, and the efforts from both outstanding trail associations are no less so. There aren't many places with the collection of cultural resources available that also offer up a true desert and mountain backcountry experience in the way that Tucson can. It has found such a special place in my own heart over the years I've been visiting since my first trip in 2018, and that's in no small part due to the efforts from the amazing people behind organizations like TORCA and SDMB, both of whom are setting the new standard for how trail associations should function. The Sonoran Desert is among the most beautiful corners of the country and there's certainly no shortage of inspiration between the desert, the mountains, and everything in between. I'm just stoked that the future of mountain biking in such a remarkable place has so many capable and devoted people to look after it.

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67 Comments
  • 14 2
 There's a lot of smoke and mirrors when it comes to the productivity on Mount Lemmon. The video makes it sound nice, but Lemmon hasn't seen a new trail in a decade, whereas existing ones are threatened yearly by disgruntled hikers and the do-nothing USFS Santa Catalina division who can't seem to even allow other organizations to do their job for them. I'm so grateful for SDMB here in the valley, but USFS and TORCA are at some sort of gridlock on Lemmon.
  • 9 0
 At least there’s some dedicated Mt. Lemmon locals putting in hard work uncovering what Vail has been up to.
  • 12 2
 I don’t think that’s entirely accurate. USFS has had a lot of turnover in recent years, which makes it tough for TORCA to maintain their momentum, and despite that they’ve done amazing work rehabbing trails that were damaged in the bighorn fire. They have a few proposals as well that will make for some exciting and new trail construction in the coming years. Working with the federal government is tough, and I think they’ve done a pretty fantastic job considering the circumstances. SDMB has done amazing work in The Valley as well, and they’re cooking up some cool things a few hours east at another sky island on Mt Graham that will yield some rad opportunities soon as well.
  • 10 14
flag DetroitCity (May 2, 2023 at 8:09) (Below Threshold)
 Thats because Torca are nothing more than overweight drunk posers who have monopolized mt lemmon for personal gain. Not only have they not built a new trail they have tried to remove every rock from the trails that do exist so that they can get more business to their shuttle business. If the trails were hard nobody would ride them. So let's make them nice and smooth so we can charge people to shuttle all day. Torca has built more trails at fantasy island than mt lemmon since they were created. I'm starting a new organization on mt lemmon. Called Mt Lemmon MTB. Look for the information soon. For shredders, by shredders. Sincerely, Lane Myers
  • 6 1
 @briceshirbach: This is a great point. Turnover at regional offices makes it tremendously difficult, the next person into the position never has the same view about trail use and has to pick up the crumbs of what the last person was doing. Not to mention, the ecosystem in the southwest is extremely sensitive to change. So sprouting up new trails in a place like Mt. Lemmon is not only difficult because the soil & terrain, but it has to be done wisely. It's understandable why the USFS Santa Catalina isn't quick to make changes to their trail network.
  • 8 15
flag DetroitCity (May 2, 2023 at 8:24) (Below Threshold)
 @briceshirbach: you're a shill for lazy entitled drunk "advocates". Who used their influence to bring business to their company. Who do the bare minimum to keep business going. You have obviously not talked to locals. You sound like a paid spokesman. On top of that they do nothing but about the ebike virus taking over Mt lemmon. Unlawfully. You're not helping the situation by giving credit where credit is not due. Next time interview a bunch of locals and ask them what they think of TORCA.
  • 13 1
 @DetroitCity: You good bro?
  • 9 1
 @DetroitCity: Detroit is long ways from Tucson bud. I think AZ is good without ya
  • 6 10
flag DetroitCity (May 2, 2023 at 9:25) (Below Threshold)
 @flembake: I spend more time per day on Mt. Lemmon than Torca does in a month. I haven't lived in Detroit in 7 years. I live at the bottom of Milagrosa. Bro. Come ride. Then talk.
  • 5 0
 @DetroitCity: Sooooo core braaaahhhh! I am sure you shred so hard, lol.
  • 5 7
 @OzarkBike: its not about how hard you shred when it comes to advocacy. The topic of this article. Its takes grow a set and being willing to confront and demand access. Not sit back and drink beer and admire your work and show people your articles on pinkbike. They don't deserve an article on pinkbike. If anything Hawes Trail Alliance should get an article up in Mesa.

The 2 groups in this article are a joke. They spend more time organizing drinking events than trail work. Everything they do is sponsored or revolves around beer. SDMB spends more time on the trails 2 hours away than in Tucson. On mt lemmon. Both of the groups came to prominence when the scene was less people. TORCA is nothing more than a way to leverage their shuttle business into a profit.

They also spend more time at fantasy island than on mt lemmon. Where ebikes are allowed.
  • 5 0
 @briceshirbach: Yeah man, I hear you. I appreciate your perspective as a visitor as it keeps me optimistic (I live here and am familiar with ongoing projects and the Catalina/Lemmon commenting period that just happened). It's tough bearing witness to such slow progress, if it's progress at all. Nevertheless, I appreciate the existence and effort of the two organizations. Credit to TORCA where it's due; no disrespect.
  • 3 6
 @rbruhns: More trail miles have been lost than gained since TORCA started. Thats called regression, not progression.
  • 3 0
 @DetroitCity: How's your lawsuit going, Lane?
  • 1 2
 @microwaveric: just waiting for trial to start, or them to settle before that. Trial is in November. They tried to get it dismissed a couple times and it didn't work. Know your rights.
  • 2 0
 Smoke and Mirrors? Care to elaborate? Care to expand on the gridlock part?
  • 3 0
 @briceshirbach: Keyboard commentators man. Can't win. Never seen any of the pundits at a meeting or a work day and I was there for all of them. But they are the experts. And "Locals".
  • 1 1
 @2csonrider: Yeah, by gridlock I mean the lack of new trails cut in despite efforts to plan them. When I say that, I'm acknowledging that the USFS hasn't made anything easy for you / TORCA. Regardless of who or what is to blame, it's still a shame. As for trail days, working between 50 and 80 hours/week doesn't make me want to go work on Red Ridge or Fantasy Island -trails I never ride. Giving people a little freedom to take rakes and shovels to more popular trails on their own time or at night would be a cool solution, but there might be limitations to that too. You won't see me raking Fantasy Island on my only day off.
  • 4 0
 @DetroitCity: I look forward to your new advocacy group. Where can I send a donation? What's the name of the organization? Are you a non-profit? When you provide me with a picture of you and a mini-ex on Mount Lemmon cutting new trail, I'll write you a $10,000 check. Deal? Can't wait to see how far you carry the torch. "For shredders by shredders". Hilarious!
  • 3 0
 @rbruhns: TORCA does 16 work days per year. Minimum. This year we had one FI day and two on Red Ridge if my memory serves me right. 3 days on Bug and PC. Why not come to a meeting and be a part of the process and steer priorities? Instead you post misinformation. Don't misunderstand me, I am not saying you're spreading bad information willingly. I just think you get a piece of info and you assume more than you should. What do you think should be worked on? What trails would you like to see more work on? And the I work 80 hours a week argument is kinda tired bro. Everyone on the board, have careers, work tough hours, have kids and all sorts of hurdles. Show me a "busy" person and I'll show you pics of them on their socials riding bikes. Always time for rides, but when it comes to trail work, they're too busy. Then you get what you get. There is a word for people that do this. They are called arm chair quarterbacks. Don't be one. Like most issues, they are usually much deeper and wider than the avg person is willing to understand. Again, what are you going to do about the gridlock besides paint torca to be pulling the wool over the publics eyes. If we had the green light from the FS, trails would have been built years ago. That is a fact. Our willingness and gas tanks are full but these sort of "discussions" take the wind out of the sails of the people who make it possible for you to ride. You can ride Mt. Lemmon BECAUSE of TORCA. Not in spite of them.
  • 2 1
 @2csonrider: Look at how this conversation is going right now -I acknowledged that the Forest Service is difficult to work with, citing that as a reason that new trails don't get built (which is my main issue) and you come at me with ad hominem calling me an armchair quaterback. I've donated to TORCA when I'm tired from working like a dog at the hospital, but still want to contribute. I put my money where my mouth is. But you guys act like loose cannons whenever people have input that challenges an idea or project of yours. On the topic of new trails alone: either it's the USFS who's the problem, or it's you. I blame the USFS and you still get angry...so which is it?
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 @rbruhns: they blocked me from their Facebook years ago for asking why every picture of trail days someone was drinking.

Look at how super worked up they get if you even ask questions! They are super unprofessional.

They definitely maintain the trails. But thats it. They aren't advocates because they are not willing to ruffle any feathers because it would compromise their gravy train of using trail advocacy as a way to get deals on things. They are sponsored by beer companies so they can get free beers to pound and call each other bro.

Tucson locals have a way different opinion of TORCA than this article or they have of themselves. They mistakenly believe, as they indicated that they are the god of trails on mt lemmon. Every single trail they maintain was already there. Compare that to Hawes in Mesa on USFS land where they have built 40 miles of trails from scratch.

I will acknowledge that without TORCA green mountain would have never been rideable again. I thank them for that.
  • 2 3
 @2csonrider: you chose to exclude me from any TORCA discussions or events years ago because I had the audacity to question the excessive use of beer in every single post on Facebook. This isn't our first rodeo. You know how I feel and have felt and chose to just block me from speaking instead of having uncomfortable conversations. I am a public land owner, I take that responsibility serious. I dont use it to get free beer and equipment.
  • 3 0
 @DetroitCity: think the Audubon society might have a place for you
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 @adminofthegapers: they do more for trail advocacy than TORCA! Those ladies actually stand up for their rights as public land owners.
  • 3 0
 @DetroitCity: Why don't you move up to Mesa if you love Hawes so much and spare us the vitriol? Start a vigilante e-bike enforcement patrol while you're up there. If we're being honest, you know that new trails on USFS Lemmon land are still years out given the timeline of the in progress Rec/Trails plan.. Are you and "Mt Lemmon MTB" entering into a private landowner partnership that might allow you to fast track some trail construction?
  • 3 1
 @rbruhns: Ad Hominem attacks? Come on... You imply that TORCA is "Smoke and mirrors" and then call me out for ad hominem attacks. I promise you this, you would never want to put yourself in the position to advocate for something, get your teeth kicked in by the FS and then have to listen to children like @detroitcity bitch with colossal hypocrisy about how you do things. Have a good one bro and get some rest.
  • 3 0
 @DetroitCity: Put your dab rig down bro. Wanna chat about this in person so I can educate you on all your perceptions? Anyone that knows me knows that I am as comfortable as comfortable gets in the toughest of conversations. No one has pushed the envelope like I have as it relates to demanding what we want and showing why we deserve it. You don't want a conversation, you wanna disrupt. You have a personal vendetta because you got a torca associates sloppy seconds and then he scooped another one of your girls. You need a hug is what you need. I am fresh out. As for being blocked. You got blocked by consensus of the board who felt you were just there to troll. There is a forum to get things done, this or FB an't it. But you keep throwing your little tantrums. No on takes you seriously. No one. Mt. Lemmon MTB? Bravo! Go gettum tiger!
  • 3 1
 @rbruhns: Based on your language choices you set yourself up for an "armchair quarterback" retort. You had unlimited choices for language to describe the situation with Mt Lemmon new trail progress. Throwing down the gauntlet with "Smoke and Mirrors" suggests that stakeholders are being deceptive or misleading about progress. That's not true. Your comment steered this thread into a cesspool of misdirected judgement and frustration. This video doesn't give us the deep dive nor should it. It's meant to stoke people on Tucson. To get real insight on the status of the USFS Trails plan it's as easy as emailing TORCA, going to board meeting or a trail work day. You also might have referred to the Santa Catalina District as something other than "do nothing" had you chosen to engage. The latest Coronado Recreation Leadership has been super supportive of the MTB community in Tucson. Throwing stones discredits the efforts of everyone involved and creates division...it's destructive. There are ways to be critical without being divisive. Progress is slow and I think we all agree that Mt Lemmon is overdue to for new, narrow multi-use trail experiences. Completely agree with @2csonrider...everyone is too busy when it comes to meetings and trail work. That's the real smoke and mirrors here...the actual amount of shredders, bros and locals on comment threads that convert to boots on the ground when it comes to MTB trail advocacy.
  • 1 3
 @2csonrider: Sounds like you need to put the beer down. If you think I have a problem with TORCA over a woman you're absolutely drunk! Who are you even talking about . I started talking shit about TORCA in 2017. When you drunk idiots caused a scene at Pachanga! I was talking shit since that day on MTBR, Pinkbike, and Facebook. You got me blocked on any platform you could because of my comments.

If you are talking about Tana, and Juan, that's the absolutely most ridiculous thing I've ever heard you say and you have said some ridiculous stuff. I have never even met Juan. He certainly hasn't "scooped" any of my girls, which led to me having an issue with TORCA. I have had the same girlfriend since before you blocked me! A definite upgrade over Tana. Why would I be mad that I had sex with TORCA members girl and she told him he had to move out so I could move in. How could that lead to me being mad at TORCA? And who is this mystery woman that Juan "scooped" from me. Becuase I have only had 1 girlfriend from Tucson.

Now as far as your wife getting naked and doing coke in the hot tub. We won't get into all that though right? All the SDMB swinger parties. I mean trail advocate meetings. Ya we won't talk about how every TORCA is at a bar. Or you drink during trail work, or go to bar and drink for hours after then drive home.

You need to sober up and check your receipts. I dated Tana for 4 months in 2021. I was banned BEFORE that. So your fantasy is just that. A fantasy. Created by alcohol rotting your brain cells.
  • 2 1
 @BullyPatrol: The day your organization can demonstrate real, tangible progress with the FS is the day I'll start showing up to meetings and dig days on my days off. For the time being, you post more about HomeGrown's shuttle days and real progress up at Hawes than progress of your own. The fact that the Tucson community is already as divided on your organization as it is should probably mean something to you.
  • 3 0
 @2csonrider: The FS kicks your teeth in because you are running what should be a professional organization, but act like children in the midst of adversity.
  • 3 0
 @BullyPatrol: This question admittedly comes from a place of ignorance, but why doesn't SDMB or a more productive organization claim 99% of the Mount Lemmon area, and the people from TORCA funnel their efforts into the large conflict of interest that is HomeGrown, such that you only work on the trails you profit from by shuttling? That's truly an area your organization has mastered.
  • 3 1
 @DetroitCity: Wow Lane... Unhinged is the only word I can use to describe you. I used to think you were just an angry child. Now I think you're pathological. Your assertions that you could have even had a chance at getting in the same zip code with my Wife let alone a jacuzzi is an all time low for you. I love twats like you running your mouth behind the comfort of your laptop in your busted up van down by the river. Or is it a school bus now? In either case, you're out of your league in so many ways, that I don't know whether to laugh or start a gofundme for you so you can seek help.

You lie at every corner. Cocaine jacuzzi's and fire pit jumping?? Every board member that was ever at a Pachanga, was dead asleep at 10pm from having worked 15 hour days in the lead up to the weekend of the event. Jumping fire pits? Again, a lie as it relates to TORCA. Maybe some attendees but like I said, we were all tucked in snug as a bug away from childish antics. On the other hand, I have no problem believing you were a part of that. You pick fights everywhere. With TORCA, SDMB, some E-biker in Michigan, Michigan Parks And Rec and others. Now Sooter? Let's pick that one apart shall we.

All you need to know about Lane is that he picked an internet fight at the onset of the comment section accusing a guy (that would mop the floor with 99% of riders) of sanitizing the trail to help his strava times. Anyone who knows Sooter knows that A. He is a great guy. B. Is a Machine on the bike & C. Would be the one to put obstacles back on the trail to shut down bad etiquette of moving obstacles, not the opposite, as Lane has so passionately asserted. You are a child looking for validation anywhere you can. A dog pissing everywhere to mark your territory. But the real Lane is Persona Nongrata. No one on any forum likes you. even your burnout friends probably don't like you. You got kicked off of forums all by yourself buddy. You didn't need my help.

And let's get something straight, I haven't been a part of TORCA in a while now. So when I speak, it's MY opinion from 15 years of doing the dirty work. You wanna talk about me, cool. Again, I don't care what people like you and Sir Dabalots have to say about me. I did more in a day for our trails than the three of you guys could do in a lifetime. You just regurgitate the same recycled headlines from your burnout crew that undermines good people's selfless efforts. You're a top tier a*shole. But best of luck in your advocacy endeavors. I have a feeling you're gonna need it. Remember though, I got $10k with your name on it. Picture of you, a skiddy punching out new trails on Mt. Lemmon and the money is yours. But you're gonna have to shut your laptop to do that. Hop to it boy!! We're all counting on you.
  • 3 0
 @rbruhns: I'm not sure what qualifies as progress when trying to get new trails built on public land at the federal level. No two situations are the same. In most cases, things move at a glacial pace and those not on the front lines don't see the microscopic shifts. TORCA has been super involved in the Catalina District Trails plan and led the MTB community toward being the highest number of respondents to the plan despite MTB only being 15% of the user group on the mtn. That plan is in its draft stage now. Details of the initial phases will be communicated soon to the public. TORCA or any org's challenge is what the USFS is wiling to focus on and fund.

There are route concepts, in the draft plan, for new trail mileage on the Mt Lemmon Hwy corridor. Many of those miles are challenging to build given terrain and endangered species season limitations. That said the USFS does recognize that mountain bikers need more places to ride on Mt Lemmon than existing Lemmon Drop route segments. There's no disagreement there. It's a question where on the priority list will it land. TORCA has been and will continue to push where it lands on the priority list with the USFS.

Where the Tucson MTB community on Lemmon, is at now, is the culmination of TORCA working with the Catalina District for more than a decade. They literally left SDMB and formed for that purpose. People can say progress to date not good enough or soon enough, but it's not for lack of trying or engagement. I'd challenge your position which seems to be t that you won't do trail work or support the board until you see new trail mileage specifically where you want to ride on Mt Lemmon. The fact that you ride those trails today and cause degradation as well as have strong criticisms of the the group that is fighting for what you want on the mtn suggests you should get on board sooner.

As far as posting progress, TORCA's been reporting on dig days out on Bugs this winter and spring. They had 25 people doing rock work on Lower Bugs in April! They've been working on Red Ridge and want to get people up there to show off the work. What's wrong with that? Give these guys a break. They are unpaid volunteers trying to create some stoke on the mileage we've got for now.
  • 2 0
 @rbruhns: You keep bringing up your frustration with the proximity of TORCA and Homegrown. Frankly, I think TORCA has done a god job to reorganize the board to eliminate concerns around conflict. So, again, I suggest you get involved to see for yourself. Also, the assertion that TORCA is the maintenance crew for Homegrown interests is a distortion. TORCA maintains trails on Lemmon that mountain bikers utilize. Plenty of folks self shuttle or pedal sections of the Lemmon Drop and never set foot in a HG shuttle. All day people do Prison Camp pedal laps and TORCA maintains that regardless of a ticket to ride on HG. There aren't any true all trail loops up on Lemmon currently. If they did exist, TORCA would be the steward. Shuttles make sense so HG meets a need. HG is a core sponsor of TORCA given their shared legacy and shared passion. Let go of this grudge. Get involved. We are stronger together.
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 @2csonrider: if you really want to start some bullshit i can show the receipts. I dont drink, or do dabs so thats nonsense. I have pictures of the drunk idiots at Pachanga, TORCA members. Not every TORCA member is a board member.

I have been at parties with you and your wife! With someone who was doing coke, naked, in the jacuzz with her! The person I was dating took me to several parties with TORCA and SDMB board members getting drunk and doing coke. Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about cause we can take this way off the trails. You wouldn't even know who I was if I was standing right next to you. I first met you and TORCA in 2017, when you were a board member. I witnessed all the drunken antics. And started being critical of TORCA around February of 2018.

Randy started his own problems when he put my name in his mouth. He had no reason to tag me in his post. He could have said anything he wanted without including me. Get off his nuts. Hes a great rider but handled that like a small child. He obviously has been watching how you behave. I've been told he moves trail features and I may or may not have observed him moving rocks in the gauntlet. But since it doesn't matter, since its an illegal trail anyways, it's not worth dealing with. Whether he does or doesn't is irrelevant to me, I am not in charge of the trails. Yet.

At the end of the day you spend more time drinking beer than riding your bike. Which is why you "stepped away". When in reality its because there's a conflict of interest with your business.

Here's the most important thing you need to remember. I dont care if other people like me. I dont need to be validated. I dont need to be told how good of job I'm doing on the trails. I don't need free equipment. I dont need the fastest strava time. I dont need the hottest girlfriend. I dont need anything. Because I have me. I may not be someone you personally agree with but thats okay because I think you're a drunk idiot, just like you mistakenly think I smoke dabs and use that same lame ass line every time. No dabs. No beers. No vans. No buses. I drive the same car as your wife, and live near the bottom of Millie. Maybe you should stop believing everything you hear. And half of what you see.
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 @BullyPatrol: you speak way more professional than big mouth. Your post on this comment is more information and professional than anything TORCA posts. They tell me to get involved and then banned me from their Facebook page and then wonder why I dont show up to do trail work. I have no problem showing up to do trail work even if I don't like most of the people and they don't like me. However since it's more of a drinking fraternity than trail advocacy group its easier to just block me than have to answer questions about all the beer advertising they do.

Public land stewards should not be advertising poisonous toxic substances that the CDC recommends 0 alcohol use. The bottom line is every meeting is a at a bar. And every trail day involves drinking. Thats a huge contradiction. Outdoor recreation is for healthy purposes. Not just another place to drink beer. I have been consistent since my first comment. They need to separate drinking from trail advocacy. I just get called a dab in a van. Despite not dabbing or a van.
  • 2 1
 @rbruhns You're my hero.
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 @DetroitCity: You're doing god's work here. You should be proud. Really really proud. Can we all please congratulate
  • 1 0
 Lane on all his contributions? You are all talk man. Just noise.
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 @2csonrider: in lieu of congratulations make sure to like, share, subscribe

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 @BullyPatrol: 1.) I did see the rock work on lower Bugs and that was awesome. Thank you, sincerely.
2.) I recently (in the last 24 hours) learned about how extensive the maintenance restrictions were on Bigelow related to the Mexican spotted owl mating period -that's an obscene amount of time smack dab in the middle of the riding season where no one is allowed to go to work up there. I have no idea how to work around that considering one would make progress for a month's worth of riding, then winter will just undo it. When it comes to this kind of red tape, I definitely feel for you. Do you think that more voices at a meeting with the FS would help to pare these restrictions back? It seems like some of the biologists they bring in are all but fabricating data on certain animals in order to combat the mtb user group.
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 @rbruhns: The Coronado is working to get more granularity from wildlife mgmt as to when and where maintenance may be performed during spotted owl season. Right now the restrictions are very broad and may prevent work being done in areas where owls wouldn't be impacted. I don't think getting the revised guidance is something that will required public input to get done. That said it's unlikely that anyone will be able to run power equipment April-Sept which is still a major challenge whether you're trying to log out a trail or build a new one. Still, being able to do work with hand tools up high in select spots could reduce degradation and improve experiences.

I'd suggest reading through the 2022 Trails Plan: www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd1071605.pdf
Particularly pages 44-65. This will give you an idea of what's planned and what the nearer term priorities are. I'd point out that the most new trail mileage in this plan is MTB focused with Bug Jr. and Tucson Vista. That's a huge win relative to the overall plan. Bug Jr is probably the most exciting for those that ride Lemmon Drop segments today. That said Bug Jr. is not highlighted as a "near term" priority. 50 year Realignment and Tucson Vista however are. That would suggest those projects will happen sooner. This is a personal opinion..not one of the USFS, TORCA or SDMB: my guess is that Bug Jr. initial planning will begin in 2024 and construction in 2025. I wish it were sooner, but the fact that a new 5.5 mile advanced descending trail is part of the plan is huge. It would not be on this plan without years of hard work and receptiveness from the Coronado Recreation leadership which has dramatically improved since 2020.
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 Nice to see all this effort and progress. Thanks, Tucson folks! Hawes Trail Alliance seems to be kicking ass a couple hours north, as well.
  • 5 0
 HTA is certainly on a tear lately. so thankful for those guys and the trails they keep pumping out.
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flag Andrew-Woyak FL (May 1, 2023 at 10:28) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah bro super pedally sketchy trails are dope
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 Just to clarify...@DetroitCity is not me! I think I am the only person I know who lives at the bottom and rides Millie like that. Good video and thanks for all the hard work from the trail crews!
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 You ride Millie harder than anyone around Randy. You also mess with features in the trail to make your strava time faster. We see each other all the time. I ride up Millie fast, you ride down fast. We have ridden together. You ride with my friends. We have sat there and talked in your yard several times also. I completely disagree with you if you think Torca do a good job. They do a shit job, and are more into drinking than riding.
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 @DetroitCity: I am trying to figure out who you are. I contacted a couple friends including Toast. Please leave me alone and stop spreading lies. I would never invite or ride with a person like you because you sound really mad. Have a good night and I hope riding brings you a little joy.
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 @rcsooter: you sound like a small child! You came on here and put my name in your post. Talk about passive aggressive. You didn't need to come on here and mention my name. Nobody thought my comments were you because I put my name on them. So now you sound even more ridiculous because we have ridden together, we have spent 30 minutes standing in your front yard together. My dog and your dogs know each other. I talk to your wife every time I see them, I talk to you every time I see you. If I sound mad, thats a you problem. I am expressing my opinion about the 2 groups in this story who I have interacted with since 2017 at the Pachanga when they got super drunk and started jumping the fire while I was trying to sleep. That was my first impression of these public land stewards.
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 I should not have said rsooter messes with the trail unless I have seen him do it. I was going off word of mouth which is not what I should have done. He didn't deserve me saying that.
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 Randy, you are the ! And not one to sanitize any trail let alone Millie.
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 That was supposed to be a goat emoji. Dangit.
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 Thanks for shining a light on what looks to be an awesome place to explore on a bike Brice! Haven't thought of Tuscon in conjunction w/ biking since early 90s when a buddy studying at U of A would taunt me to road trip out there from Santa Barbara to see if my XC hardtail would survive the chunk he rode on the daily. Have been meaning to head back out & revisit Sedona: looks like Tuscon could be worth extending the road trip another 3.5hrs south!
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 Just went there this past Jan. Mt Lem was snowed out but the trails are fun. Nothing new school - as my buddy who lives there said "There is no berms in the place." It's all old school chunk of a mainly XC variety.
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 Great piece. Looks like a nice place to get away from interior BC winters. Wouldn’t want run into one of those ‘trees’ though Wink
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 More of these edits, please PinkBike. It ticks off so many boxes. The want/need to travel, great shots/edit, the stoke to ride a new zone, and give all the upset locals a big hug.
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 I always love what @briceshirbach puts together. Love the photos he captures of each town, and he describes everything in a way that makes you want to be there at that very moment!
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 Lemon Drop Trail is underrated. My guess it's to much climbing for most folks.
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 The Lemmon Drop isn't just one trail, but multiple that are strung together from summit to base. Depending on the conditions of one of those trails, it gets to be not fun or impossible. That said, a couple of local riders here have done the road climb (9,000ft) and then proceeded to descend the whole Lemmon Drop which is amazing.
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 Randy decided to confront me for the 2nd time since this article today. He got his feelings hurt so bad he decided to get himself in trouble for harrasment and possibly get banned from riding the trail on Mt. Lemmon. A 50 year old grown ass man taking some comments to the extreme.

youtu.be/HqK8VWXRsGg
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 And we have the Laguna Foundation that does nothing!!! I frequent Tucson to see family and they really do take care of the terrain. Love that place.
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 certainly the time of year to go is about to be passed. AZ in the summer is a frying pan.
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 Northern Az isn’t bad if you get up in elevation and ride in the morning.
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 @Dangerhill: ridden around Flagstaff in July. It was perfect.
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 6 am in Phoenix over the summer is more like a warming oven, plus the trails are empty!







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