Because this is pinkbike, and I know what the top comment is going to be, I just want to get it out of the way early. So here goes: Reece, I loved you in legally blond and legally blond 2
Pinkbikers "ebikers are destroying the environment with their batteries!" . Also Pinkbikers, "it's so cool to fly planes to remote locations so I can ride a bike down a mountain."
Such a cool video, Reece! Gets me excited like a little kid.
Two questions for you and any other pilots on this thread. If I wanted to learn to fly, what’s the best place to start educating myself? Any books, online resources, clubs, or simulators you would suggest?
Second question, how difficult is it to monetize plane ownership? I want to learn to fly just because I think it would be really fun, but it would be a lot easier to stomach, financially speaking, if I knew I could turn it into an income stream (even a small, part-time one) thus justifying the expense of learning to fly and buying a plane.
1. Flight training is different in every country, but I believe AOPA (American Owners & Pilots Assc) has some great resources on their site for the beginning steps on how to get your license
2. You need a commercial license to do anything which involves making money from flying. Even if it’s just flying your buddies around for $. It’s from a liability standpoint, and any type of passenger/delivery operation has different training, rules, and regulations
If you’re looking to make $ off being a pilot, plane ownership is not the way to go haha
Just to add to Reece's comment, the US is a little bit looser but you need more than a commercial license to monetize a plane you own. You need become a commercial operator with all those hoops. Easier to get your commercial license and get a job flying for someone else, and then fly your own plane to make sure savings never build up in your bank account.
@reecewallace Love the 170 upgrade, but do miss seeing the unmistakable red 150 at YSE.
I love how universally crappy small GA cessna doors are I taught in 172’s and part of my briefing always included “don’t worry if the door pops open, it happens from time to time!”
I know this is out of nowhere but I'm getting into GA and saw this comment. How do you like your kitfox? Did you build it yourself or did you buy the plane used already built?
@nskerb: I own a model IV it was already flying when I bought it that being said I tore it all done and re did everything, best plane for my mission, light, capable and fun, I burn 4.6 gpa cruise at 105mph weighs 620 empty weight gross out at 1200 I can take off in 100 feet and land in 100 feet as well.. I can go anywhere a cub can go around here or a new kitfox. My buddy Ty has a model 4 and he out pilots and performers dudes in planes that cost 20x more... He has a total of 32k into his plane and in stol comps he is beating dudes in 400k carbon super cubs.
@jacobxpaul: That is awesome! Yeah I'm keeping my eyes peeled at barnstormers looking for pre-built foxes, zero chance I buy one in the next 5 years but just looking it seems that in the last 3 months or so there's a lot more on the market and prices seem to be dropping as well. If the perfect one popped up when I had the hours and money to justify a purchase I would definitely do it but may end up building one, hard to say. 4.6 sounds pretty damn good, is that with a 912? There is a guy on a KF facebook group with a O-320 and it looks like it was done pretty damn cheap and just about rips the wings off at TO with how much power it has, fuel burn was up at 6.5 he said I believe though. One upside is he said the engine with mid time was only like 9 grand. Everything seems to be trade off. I don't know the ins and outs but is your 1200 max weight because it would be registered ad LSA as opposed to experimental? Still trying to learn.
But yeah, the foxes seem to be pretty damn close for the best bang for your buck if you're into STOL/bush stuff, that's my main future goal, I cant blame a guy with a spare million bucks to drop 400k on a carbon cub, but I'll never be in that position.
@nskerb: I picked my model IV with a EA81 in it for $17k its the speedster wing. I ended up putting a rotax 912 with a zipper big bore kit 100hp and still with that i was only at 24k total investment... I have tk1 landing gear sitting in my garage alaska bush wheels 26 and doing some new things to my panel I am going to be pushing 30k total investment if I want to go glass panel, which i might I'll be a total of 40k still not bad...
Nope still experimental I think if its factory built it could be LSA... All that stuff is still confusing.
drop the 400k and the plane still only goes 100mph lol thats the problem... If I dropped 400k I want to go fast and carry bikes and beer.
@jacobxpaul: Damn... I wish I got into this game sooner, prices make me want to die right now. Go fast? Carry bikes and beer? Sounds like a skywagon, in that case I'll free up your hangar space and take the fox off your hands lol.
So here goes:
Reece, I loved you in legally blond and legally blond 2
Also Pinkbikers, "it's so cool to fly planes to remote locations so I can ride a bike down a mountain."
Two questions for you and any other pilots on this thread. If I wanted to learn to fly, what’s the best place to start educating myself? Any books, online resources, clubs, or simulators you would suggest?
Second question, how difficult is it to monetize plane ownership? I want to learn to fly just because I think it would be really fun, but it would be a lot easier to stomach, financially speaking, if I knew I could turn it into an income stream (even a small, part-time one) thus justifying the expense of learning to fly and buying a plane.
Thank you for your time!
Great questions:
1. Flight training is different in every country, but I believe AOPA (American Owners & Pilots Assc) has some great resources on their site for the beginning steps on how to get your license
2. You need a commercial license to do anything which involves making money from flying. Even if it’s just flying your buddies around for $. It’s from a liability standpoint, and any type of passenger/delivery operation has different training, rules, and regulations
If you’re looking to make $ off being a pilot, plane ownership is not the way to go haha
@reecewallace Love the 170 upgrade, but do miss seeing the unmistakable red 150 at YSE.
"How do you make a small fortune in aviation?"
"Start off with a large fortune."
It's addictive but expensive hobby. I get folks to pay me to fly around.
(couldn't resist)
you might need to bring a step ladder too...
4.6 sounds pretty damn good, is that with a 912? There is a guy on a KF facebook group with a O-320 and it looks like it was done pretty damn cheap and just about rips the wings off at TO with how much power it has, fuel burn was up at 6.5 he said I believe though. One upside is he said the engine with mid time was only like 9 grand. Everything seems to be trade off.
I don't know the ins and outs but is your 1200 max weight because it would be registered ad LSA as opposed to experimental? Still trying to learn.
But yeah, the foxes seem to be pretty damn close for the best bang for your buck if you're into STOL/bush stuff, that's my main future goal, I cant blame a guy with a spare million bucks to drop 400k on a carbon cub, but I'll never be in that position.
Nope still experimental I think if its factory built it could be LSA... All that stuff is still confusing.
drop the 400k and the plane still only goes 100mph lol thats the problem... If I dropped 400k I want to go fast and carry bikes and beer.
Go fast? Carry bikes and beer? Sounds like a skywagon, in that case I'll free up your hangar space and take the fox off your hands lol.
At least VtVolk got it