Interview: Gee Atherton - on Flat Pedals and the Cairns World Cup DH

May 12, 2014
by Richard Cunningham  
Flat pedals win medals. Gee made a last-minute decision to ride flats and won the race in borrowed shoes.

Below the podium: Gee Atherton wearing what may prove to be the most famous pair of shoes of the 2014 World Cup DH tour.



Until the World Cup DH at Cairns, Australia, you could count the contenders who raced with flat pedals on one hand. If there were a national anthem written for flat pedals, though, race announcer Rob Warner would have grown hoarse singing it in Cairns - because the lion's share of competitors there opted against riding clipped in, as the prevailing method of descending the sticky red clay soil, kneaded into a nightmarish greasy glue by three days of rain and three hundred practice runs, was to keep one foot out and hope for the best. The "best," turned out to be Gee Atherton - on loaner shoes and flat pedals - which, along with Warner's glorious trackside testimony, inspired hopes among old-school gravity riders that flat pedals would make a triumphant return to World Cup DH racing. Well, one can always hope. Here's Gee's story about it.


How did that moment go when you decided to switch to flats and borrowed the Five Tens? Was the guy a fellow pro racer, or a spectator? Did you find him to return them after the race?

I decided I needed flats after my quali run. I knew I'd be faster on them, but I also knew I hadn't brought any Shimano flats with me. I did my first practice run on race day on my normal pair of vans and it was so slick! So, while I was looking at a section of track, I asked a spectator what size feet he had, as I'd seen he had a good pair of flats on. He agreed to swap shoes with me trackside! By the time I'd finished anti doping after the race, the guy had left, so I still have his shoes. I need to find out who he was. His name was Sam.

Cairns was the first course in years that caused the majority of competitors to switch to flats, yet we've seen some horrendously muddy courses where most rode clipped in. Why was Cairns so different?

Well, I think it was the awkward nature of the track and conditions. I can ride clips in the wettest of conditions, but this track had such tight awkward sections that I felt I wasn't at any advantage using clips. I was literally dabbing a foot on 80-percent of the turns, and these turns were so close that you didn't have time to put in a sprint in between. Plus, I always enjoy changing to flats for a bit.


Gee Atherton will be looking to improve on his performance at South Africa. He qualified sixth today but will he have what it takes to win tomorrow The rain has been intermittent all day allowing for some drying of the track. If the rains hold off and the track dries out as the day progresses those who qualified best will have the best shot of the top step.


Many said that as the track dried, the mud wrapped tightly to the tires, preventing them from gripping anywhere on the course. How was this from your end when you made your race run?

The track certainly felt faster when it was raining hard and the mud was a bit thinner. Once it dried, it was this heavy clay that was trying to suck you in, and it was really impossible to get traction on. Some sections were just polished clay with a shiny surface.


What was it like accelerating with tires that weighed a kilo more due to mud buildup?

It really affected the way the bike handled. You had to make sure you got up to speed as soon as possible to clear the tyres out and in turns, you could feel the extra weight of the mud changing the way the bike handled. It also affected the way the suspension worked as, obviously, the mud on the tyres was all having to get moved by the suspension.


Putting his helmet down in top spot must have brought a welcome surge of familiarity for Gee from early last season when he looked so unstoppable.


Do you think that a tire could be designed that would be effective in those conditions? Is DH tire technology pretty much maxed out?

I think we are pretty close to having mud tyres dialed. The Conti Mud King seems to clear the mud well, even at full length without any cuts. It's always a balancing act between traction and rolling speed, but I think we have a good in-between. I mean, we are asking a lot from these tyres at a race like Cairns. We wanted traction on wet roots, deep mud, wet rocks, and we wanted fast rolling speed on the long pedal sections, and we wanted the tyre to hold up in the hard-pack switchbacks at the top.


Outside of tires and traction, did you or the others have problems with mud fouling the frame or fork during the race?

The extra weight was the biggest problem. We spend a huge amount of time and effort shaving grams of the bikes and then suddenly, the bike has three kilos of mud weight added to it. That affects the bike enormously, so it was all about adjusting the suspension to make up for that added weight and trying to guess how it would alter the bike's performance.



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99 Comments
  • 301 1
 Five ten have sent me brand new shoes and some shirts! Just need a bike frame that isn't cracked now Wink
  • 27 0
 So awesome. You now have one hell of a good story share.
  • 68 0
 You need your original ones back , you never know some of his talent may be left in those shoes Razz
  • 27 1
 Get the originals back and stick them in a display case, that is just the coolest story and if it happened to me I'd be telling everyone I met until the day I died and pointing out my 5.10s in their display case!
  • 40 4
 Waddo, you need to get in contact with Gee, im damn sure he would help you out with a new frame...
  • 9 0
 Best story ever!
  • 11 2
 Mup33t you're damn right. He'd sort you out with a frame I reckon. Do it Gee man!
  • 4 0
 Theeeere he is! Haha thats awesome they sorted you out with some kit! Cool story bro
  • 19 1
 GT get on it... this guy gave Gee the tools he used to win. You owe it to humanity to sort him out with a new frame! Heck, I bet he'd accept even last year's carbon Fury isn't that right Waddo?
  • 1 1
 Hows the news on the injuries/recovery time sam ?
  • 7 1
 +1 on GT/Gee getting this man a frame. Giving him the frame Gee won on early last year would be poetic justice.
  • 3 0
 Epic story
  • 1 0
 Godammit what happened??
  • 285 6
 His name was Sam Hill.
  • 7 4
 Lmao, good one!
  • 4 7
 good one indeed!lol
  • 5 3
 I thought the same thing Big Grin
  • 2 2
 Amazing
  • 161 2
 Sam Waddingtons is the guy!

instagram.com/p/n5U-1hmYM6
  • 17 0
 Give this dude your props - and get the re united!
  • 12 0
 The power of pinkbike!
  • 27 0
 Gee are you listening? You owe this guy that bottle of Champagne you won at Cairns!!!
  • 4 0
 Now now, ask nicely.
  • 2 0
 Five ten offered some big prize for him.
  • 73 6
 Flats rule. there i said it first.
  • 11 0
 Although I love clipless, I do miss flats every time the trails get wet... or riding skinnies. It's just nerve-racking being clipped in during those situations. So in those times, I think every rider can agree with you, haha.
  • 21 3
 Skinnies... Lol!
  • 3 1
 flats rule my mountain biking world...

always on SPD-SL on the road bikes, but when its time for Mountain biking its Specialized Bennie pedals and 5-10 Karver shoes Smile
  • 2 0
 Great to see even the pros keeping it real. Will be interesting to see if anyone pulls them out later on in the season if the need arises!
  • 2 0
 I would say narrow elevations but I feel that skinnies might be a more accepted term... I could be wrong on that judging by your response, haha.
  • 2 0
 I need to find out who he was. His name was Sam. hahahahahhaha , HILL ?
  • 73 7
 In a few years they will try de 26'er again, and they will be amazed
  • 41 5
 " it's so nimble and easy to turn , and the way you can get a decent jump off tiny features like roots and little rocks is amazing "
  • 4 4
 I am more than sure that time will come. I am just wondering how many will be whining that it is just hype, and they are trying to steal our money, that those are slower. You know, opinions are formed based on the biggest, most common point of reference, slowly 26" stops to be one. In 5 years time 27.5 will be the point of reference, I am more than sure than 29ers will always be the weirdos.
  • 39 3
 ugh i just put clipless pedals on and now i gotta take them off again
  • 34 2
 Ah....my name is Sam if it will get me a pair of flats that won a World Cup!!! JK - I love the fact that a guy gave up his shoes to help another guy! MTB'ers r nice people
  • 6 4
 "a guy gave up his shoes to help another guy" ???? NO !it's not an other guy, it's Gee Atherton !!big difference !
  • 24 1
 I'm pretty sure Five Ten sent the guy a fresh pair of shoes. At least they were trying to find out who he was the other day on Instagram
  • 23 3
 Faith in humanity restored
  • 33 1
 Faith in Five Ten's PR dept restored!
  • 14 0
 We need a doping league with 26in flats and punk rock
  • 2 0
 Ha! Yeah mandatory modavigil racing. Times would crumble.
  • 7 0
 Are spray's allowed on frames and shoes? Have ya'll seen the NeverWet tech from Rustoleum? www.neverwet.com

I use this stuff on my mountain bike shoes, I'm sure you could use it on the frame and tires too, I doubt it would affect the performance much, certainly couldn't hurt!!
  • 2 0
 I've heard bad reviews from people who have tried it. They say it leaves a white crusty coating on whatever you spray it on, is that true?
  • 2 0
 Pledge is amazing at keeping mud from sticking
  • 16 2
 "it leaves a white crusty coating on whatever you spray it on" sn*gger
  • 9 1
 And now apparently to "laugh in a half-suppressed, typically scornful way." is swearing and requires censorship?! Well played pinkbike you C**TS
  • 1 0
 That product looks awesome, is true that it leaves a white crust. If not i might buy some and spray it on the frame
  • 8 0
 @ shakey, it's not sn*gger that's censored, it's the word without the s.
  • 1 0
 Ive heard of people spraying pam on their dirtbike fenders to shed mud, but Im not sure how well it would work on a frame or tires
  • 8 0
 @Clarkeh - but how are any african american hip-hop enthusiasts supposed to comment?
  • 4 1
 There's a secret test, I do not know of it. I've heard rumor that it involves reciting the lyrics to GTA V's West Coast Classics...
  • 1 0
 Sure it leaves a white residue if you over do it, but hell, If it helps ya win the race who cares!?
  • 8 0
 Maybe gee could tell the other world cup riders how to mount their helmet cam.
  • 6 0
 What about the guy running around in Gee's Vans? Cant decide if would be cool to have a pair of Gee's old used Vans or weird...
  • 5 0
 Hahaha truly weird but we love weird things!
  • 6 0
 I rode with clips for years and started out with toe traps and straps, yes I'm that old, but I've seen the light on my flats and I'm never going back !
  • 5 0
 Another one here. Just found a box with pics of me racing dh in 1992 with a hardtail khs montana with mag 20 spd 737 and bar ends. Bell image helmet and all that stuff, shocked at 20 years gone by but now am on flats and having the time of my life bouncing off of rocks that you would never even look at those days! Btw gotta thanks the sram guys at vallnord dh wc last year. They took my boxxer, overhauled it for free with a smile on their face, got me hooked for another 20 years!
  • 5 0
 Well done Sam thats the DH spirit helping out riders!

Props to 5:10 to, this is why I support companies like u, good products good people looking out for one another.

Braaap..
  • 5 0
 "We spend a huge amount of time and effort shaving grams of the bikes and then suddenly, the bike has three kilos of mud weight added to it." ---There's something all weight weenies should remember.
  • 3 2
 I've emailed Five Ten - Pinkbike and Gt racing regarding the facebook page of the guy who swapped the shoes and submitted photos of the event, also done the same thing on all the instagram feeds - not one of them has replied.



Check out the pics @ JDM Photography on facebook.
  • 4 0
 dam, you need to be super strong to make a good time on this course, that mud is a killer.
  • 3 0
 Definitely a big consideration when bikes are designed as to how well they don't clog up with mud. Some designs are clearly terrible in that respect.
  • 3 0
 One day I was on Dh track, I ask a guy to swap our shoes….he replied "f*ck YOU"……… IT IS ALWAYS A WIN IF YOUR NAME IS ATHERTON Smile …….
  • 3 0
 @RichardCunningham I was right there when they swapped shoes....want some photos??
  • 4 2
 Sam? probably Sam Hill. can't be too hard to find. he'll be at ft bill in a few weeks...
  • 2 0
 "you not sing bro?..." best question ever
  • 3 1
 Is there a reason you didn't grin when rat boy spoke to you on the podium?
  • 4 24
flag RMCaird (May 12, 2014 at 13:25) (Below Threshold)
 He's too busy being incest Smile

But seriously, he's one of the best rider's in the world right now, if not the best, but he seems to have the most boring personality on the planet.
  • 12 1
 I wouldn't say hes boring, just ratboy is the complete polar opposite #totallad. And gee is just out-ladded. Old atherton project is proof that the guy has a personality.
  • 32 0
 Gee was probably trying to decipher what Ratboy was saying.
  • 2 1
 @RichardCunningham, Good one Smile At this time even NASA is also trying to decipher.
  • 2 0
 One more thing, is he going to sing with Rat-Boy....Just Sayin..
  • 1 0
 Isn't that already on the goatsthatsoundlikepeople.com page?
  • 2 0
 Flat pedal riders have real sole Wink
  • 6 4
 No mention of FiveTen.
  • 3 1
 first question
  • 14 0
 ... Probably because of his massive contract with Shimano; just giving credit to the guy who loaned him the shoes was more important than pissing off a major sponsor by shouting out another brand in an interview on one of the world's largest bike sites.
  • 3 2
 I don't think they're sponsored by FiveTen...
  • 4 0
 Prob cuz he doesnt ride for them
  • 2 0
 Gee is pretty careful of what he says. For sure being sponsored by Shimano he's not going to go out and say that Five Ten is the best thing since sliced bread but we all know that he has Five Ten's in his closet at home hiding Smile
  • 2 0
 I think he was wearing FiveTen Dirtbags at Rampage... the Shimano flat shoes aren't bad but you can't beat the standard!
  • 2 1
 I bet he can find his Vans on ebay here shortly.
  • 4 0
 Meh, who wouldn't keep those?
  • 2 1
 Now that I said I figure it is a drug test after the race
  • 2 0
 5.10 Impact hell yeah.
  • 1 0
 That guy can really hammer some berms.
  • 1 0
 Isnt he sponsored by Vans for casual shoes, they will be angry
  • 7 6
 What is anti-doping?
  • 76 0
 Lance, is that you?
  • 4 0
 Drug testing
  • 1 3
 duh
  • 10 0
 It means when you get paid to smoke pot
  • 7 0
 can i join that program^^^
  • 1 0
 ummm, Sam Hilll...
  • 1 3
 LOL I thought the whole atherton family is sponsored by shimano, donno what shimano would think after 510 has helped gee to take the win
  • 1 0
 Sam is an icon!







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