We Fine Tune Suspension Using Telemetry & Break Carbon Wheels | Pinkbike Magazine Show Ep. 9

Jun 16, 2023
by Henry Quinney  

In this episode Max and I discuss the changes to this year's DH World Cup Series, talk to Whistler locals about breaking carbon wheels, and explain my new suspension set that I've reached using telemetry.

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27 Comments
  • 21 0
 Where is Levi??
  • 12 0
 Sent to work in the jeans gulag.
  • 1 0
 Word is he's gone full gravel...
  • 2 0
 @dolface: never go full gravel!
  • 1 0
 He’s alive and well, just like the aliens.
Now back to messing up my suspension settings…..
  • 1 0
 Search on LinkedIn
  • 1 0
 Comment aged well!
  • 11 3
 Videos / content on setup that goes beyond recommended settings is super interesting. A true deep dive into what you gain by running rebound more open vs. what you lose. Reminds me of the vorsprung videos back in the day - that was some of the best content out at the time and pushed me to change my setup for the better. Do that but maybe a slight less techy for us non engineers.

2. Regarding carbon wheels…they are just better. Sure the failure can be catastrophic but there is no up keep needed unlike alum wheels that always need to be trued and checked. Carbon wheels to me at least are set it and forget it…ride till they fail then get a ‘free’ new rim.
  • 7 0
 I'd like to see a blind comparison of various 'tuned' dampers (at recommended settings) vs. stock dampers using the riders subjective setup... using the clock and noting rider perception. Use whatever means to remove bias from the test.
  • 4 0
 @HenryQuinney im curious where you have your LSC and HSC set on both the fork and shock with your new softer setup. I find a soft spring rate on my shock results in amazing small bump sensitivity but more harsh bottom outs. Just curious how you factor compression into the equation. Thanks.
  • 2 0
 There’s a great article vorsprung made that the grip 2 dampers fully open and closed are almost no change.
  • 1 0
 @freeridejerk888: grip2 with vvc compression adjustability is limited. Previous grip2 without vvc (2019) is a different story.
  • 10 2
 Put. These. On. The. Podcast. Feed. PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
  • 4 0
 Henry gets it — there is no “free ride” when it comes to warranties or crash replacements. It’s all built into the price. For every product ever. Take advantage of it by all means — you’re paying for it up front, after all.
  • 2 0
 @henryquinney wins per capita (mens downhill elite, world cup and world champs) top of the table is France, with just over 1 win per million people, Australia not far behind.
In order - France, Australia, UK, South Africa, New Zealand, Finland, Spain, Canada, USA, Italy, Germany.
  • 1 0
 I’d love to hear more details on compression shaft speeds and rebound speeds. I’ve been using the Motion Instruments data tools but not much information online for what other users are averaging.

Currently I’m finding 25-26% in the fork and 26-28% dynamic sag in the rear feeling very balanced.

95% Compression speeds 2500-2700 but max speed hit 4500.
95% rebound speeds 1300-1500 but max speed 2000.

I always wonder how these numbers stack up to other riders or pros. This data from a DH bike.
  • 1 0
 It would be interesting to see the difference/comparison between the data aquisition driven setup vs the manufacturer recomendations (maybe even for different manufacturers). This migth help people setup their suspension better. (for example, RS recomentation is cca 10% too stiff, FOX recomendation is 5% too soft,...)
  • 3 3
 Telemetry is the action of recording and transmitting data from a measurement instrument.

You don't "use" telemetry to tune suspension, you use the data that you get from the telemetry process.

Kind of like saying you have too much rebound dampening...or that Shockwiz is a great tuning tool. Smile
  • 5 0
 It's also not telemetry, it's data acquisition /pedant
@henryquinney
  • 1 0
 I came here to be offended, but I haven't watched the video, there's no comments, and telemetry is super interesting. Guess I have to go watch the video now
  • 5 0
 I haven't watched the video either but I'm willing to offend you. Do you have any weak points I could exploit? I don't have much telemetry but there is an O-ring around one of my fork stanchions. I trust it is a super accurate O-ring but still don't find it interesting.

If you feel like, feel free to offend me too.
  • 5 0
 @vinay: I think your o-ring is stupid!
  • 1 0
 @mtb-jon: You didn't offend me, but you did offend my O-ring. The stupidity you pointed at is an interesting one though. Should everything be intelligent these days, even if it is artificial? I fear the day when my O-ring no longer just slides, but moans and puffs depending on the size of the impact. Or even worse, asks ChatGPT to write a post-ride-report to then publish on social media.
  • 2 0
 @vinay: i want my o-ring to connect to my phone with Bluetooth and update my instagram everytime I bottom out!
  • 5 3
 It's not telemetry unless it's live and realtime. You did data-acquisition/-collection with post-run analysis.
  • 1 0
 yes to this
  • 1 0
 Why cant I see the video? It says its restricted.







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