Eurobike Randoms III - Eurobike 2018

Jul 8, 2018 at 11:16
by Alex Evans  
MIPS

Designed to reduce rotational brain injuries, the idea behind the MIPS system is to allow your helmet to rotate on its MIPS liner rather than your head in the event of a crash, but only 10 to 15mm of movement is required. The MIPS liner is attached to the helmet's EPS layer with omnidirectional silicone fasteners - this is where the movement occurs.

New for this year is the integration of MIPS into Boa's helmet retention and adjustment fitting system. Dubbed MIPS B2-BOA, this new level of MIPS integration should mean that helmet designers have less layers of complication to factor in when making their new lids and more manufacturers should be able to use the system. That means the consumer could see MIPS technology on more and less expensive helmets.

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The integration means few layers of complication for helmet designers.
The integration means fewer layers of complication for helmet designers.

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MIPS have integrated their safety systems into Boa's proprietary fastening mechanism.

MIPS-E2 is a fabric-based solution that also reduces rotational forces on the head. There are two layers of fabric that can glide and slip against one another, allowing rotation of the helmet relative to the riders' head. This liner is inserted between the internal padding of the helmet and the EPS shell but does away with the traditional MIPS yellow liner we all recognise. This system is suited to full face helmets, but, sadly, isn't retrofittable.

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Its application is best suited to full face helmets and this one was taken out of a 661 lid.
MIPS new glide wear fabric might look not look like much but integrated with a helmet and it can reduce rotational forces exerted on the head in a crash.
MIPS fabric liners might look not look like much, but when integrated correctly with a helmet it can reduce rotational forces exerted on the head in a crash, acting in the same way as MIPS traditional yellow liner.





Crankbrothers

Crankbrothers had a mix of parts on their stand, but the most notable addition is their new entry-level Stamp 1 pedal that's got a reasonable price tag and looks good.

The entry-level Stamp 1 is made from a polycarbonate material or for the layman plastic comes in three colours blue red and black features two sizes like its more expensive Stamp brothers and will cost 49.99 or 49.99.
The entry-level Stamp 1 is made from a nylon composite material (or for the layman, plastic), comes in three colours (blue, red and black), features two sizes like its more expensive Stamp brothers and will cost $49.99 or €49.99.

Crankbrothers are dropping the 160mm travel Highline and replacing it with 2 models - 150mm amp 170mm travel variants. They also say they ve reduced insertion length by 20mm so the post should be compatible with more frames.
Crankbrothers are dropping the 160mm travel Highline and replacing it with 2 models - 150mm & 170mm travel variants. They also say they've reduced insertion length by 20mm, so the post should be compatible with more frames.

The Mallet E LS long spindle now comes in a black and silver colour way. It ll cost 169.
The Mallet E LS (long spindle) now comes in a black and silver colourway. It'll cost $169.
Crankbrother s Danny MacAskill signature Stamp pedal s design was chosen through a social media competition and this colour and model is a new addition to the lineup.
Crankbrother's Danny MacAskill signature Stamp pedal's design was chosen through a social media competition and this colour and model is a new addition to the lineup.





Tag Metals Racing

Tag Metals Racing are better known in the motocross world but are launching a solid range of MTB products very soon.

A full set of carbon wheels in either 27.5 and 29-inch will set you back 1099.99
A full set of carbon wheels (in either 27.5 and 29-inch) will set you back £1099.99
The T1 hub is laced on the Tag carbon rim.
The T1 hub is laced to the Tag carbon rim.

Of note, they're launching a full range of carbon and alloy wheels in both 275 and 29 inch versions that cost £1099.99 a set for the carbon and a meagre £399.99 for the alloy version. Talking of which, the alloy wheelset features an a-symmetrical rim design akin to Halo's Vapor. The carbon wheels come with laced to the higher spec T1 hubs, while the alloy ones are on the T2s. The carbon rims have a 28.6mm internal diameter, too.

Also new to the market is Tag's dropper post. At £209.99 for the 150mm drop and £239.99 for the 170mm version, it's coming in quite cheap. It's available in 31.6 and 30.9 diameters and has a claimed weight of 550g and a 0mm clamp offset.

Tag s dropper is fully serviceable and will comes in 150 and 170mm drops.
Tag's dropper is fully serviceable and will come in 150 and 170mm drops.

They're also launching aluminium and carbon bars. The carbon bars have levels of rise from 10 to 40mm that increase in 10mm increments. They weigh between 221g and 229g depending on the rise. The internal walls of the carbon bars have an oval cross-section in certain areas to help increase stiffness. The carbon bars will retail for £139.99.

The alloy version will cost £59.99 and has 20, 30 & 40mm rise variants. Tag hope to do limited colour runs in the future, so expect to see some variation on the black and silver models that will be available on launch.

The carbon bars feature 35mm clamps and will cost 139.99. The alloy version has both 31.8 and 35mm clamps and will cost 59.99.
The carbon bars feature 35mm clamps and will cost £139.99. The alloy version has both 31.8 and 35mm clamps and will cost £59.99.

Tag's metal and nylon pedals look burly! The metal pedals have a full-length axle, a 115X120mm body and will cost £109, while the nylon pedal has a 110X100mm platform and features replaceable pins. It's claimed to weigh 362g a pair.

The metal pedals have a full-length axle a 115X120mm body and will cost 109.
The nylon pedal has a 110X100mm platform and features replaceable pins. It s claimed to weigh 362g a pair.

The Braap! grips are moto-inspired with a flange. They come in at 30A on the durometer scale and retail at £19.99

The Braap grips are inspired with a flange. They come in at 30A on the durometer scale and retail at 19.99


MENTIONS: @crankbrothers


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77 Comments
  • 101 2
 These products are worth considering if you are considering consuming more products as a consumer.
  • 7 0
 or as a considered consumer of consumerism...
  • 4 1
 $49 for a pair of flat plastic pedals with a huge hump over the axle and no concave equal what a pizza chit meng. Basically any pedal you see with no concave properties to it what so ever ( in this case its opposite concurve) go running to the next shop.
  • 2 0
 You tempt me ... maybe I should ride my bike instead, like an intervention.
  • 4 0
 @fecalmaster:
Or instead... Do what I did years ago and still do for flats days...
Get a pair of nice colorful poly BMX pedals for a lot less, and use and abuse them for grocery runs and crap, and save your real money for real parts.
Boom.
  • 2 0
 @togood2die: Exactly,,,that's what I do,,,,, thankyou danscomp!
  • 41 2
 B-b-b-but but but... Affordable, functional, well thought out products? Nothing overly controversial? Nothing to complain about?! Where's the mind-blown emoji when it's needed... I'll settle for Eek . I don't know what to do with myself! The comment section is pointless! I'll get offline and seek therapy...
  • 4 1
 P.S. Lest someone take that the wrong way, that's a good job shoutout to @alexcgevans, @crankbrothers , Tag, Boa, etc. Razz
  • 11 20
flag Axxe (Jul 8, 2018 at 20:55) (Below Threshold)
 It’s Crank Brothers so it is just pretty crap
  • 13 4
 @Axxe: Recent Mallet DH is the best clip in pedal I have ever owned.
  • 6 1
 @Axxe: Can't speak for the pedals, but my Highline was solid for the year I had it.
  • 4 8
flag Axxe (Jul 8, 2018 at 22:56) (Below Threshold)
 @ChristophColombo: It does work well for a dildo.
  • 1 7
flag Axxe (Jul 8, 2018 at 22:57) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: Heard many times before. Still always turns out to be crap.
  • 5 1
 @Axxe: I wanted to service them out of the box yet they had plenty of lube inside. For how great they feel I am fully prepared to change bushing every half of a year.
  • 3 7
flag Axxe (Jul 9, 2018 at 7:30) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: even perfect reliability, which would contrary to the entire history of this company which was founded on the principle of making pretty bits for people who don’t use them (and promptly replacing for the few who do) would not change the fundamental flaw in that “retension” mechanism. It opens on a strike. And wears out your shoes. And does not adjust when wears out.
I hope none of this will injure you. Even if it does not fly off the spindle as it was common.
I was fooled a few time long ago, when they promised drastic improvements. Never again.
  • 5 3
 @Axxe: pfff Shimano has a fundamental flaw that is you chose either clipping out unintentionally due to too little spring tension or if you tighten them up to the point where they don’t do it and then you can’t clip out. Yet 90% of pedals in the world use this or similar system. My Times failed when I hit a rock. Sorry,
  • 4 2
 @WAKIdesigns: If you have problems with SPD retention adjustments you are doing it wrong.
  • 1 0
 Tried SPDs once 15 years ago on the MTB. With the tension low you just blow straight out of them in corners etc. Crank the tension up and they are shit to release from. Put them on my roady and started to get knee pain and foot hotspots from the crap platform and lack of float.

Threw some Candy's on the roady as a bit of laugh and god dam they have a much nicer feel than Shimano. Almost tempting me away from flats into Mallet/E's on the MTB.

Yep, SPDs are in my top 3 all time overrated MTB products. Bring the down votes.
  • 1 2
 @slimjim1: if you can’t adjust SPD, you can’t be trusted with tools.
If you like fixed release with float, Look/Time makes pedals that are not crap and do not blow open on a strike.
  • 3 0
 @Axxe: your bias is obvious. I used SPD for almost 10 years so try this with somone else. Can’t adjust the tension, heh. That was cheap man. If you want an equally banal one from me I can give you that there is a reason why most pros use mallets Big Grin
  • 2 0
 @Axxe: If you can't write an unbiased comment, you're doing it wrong. Big Grin
  • 1 2
 @mtbikeaddict: You mistake truth for bias. Truth has no bias.
  • 1 0
 @Axxe: No problems with adjusting the tension of them. The lack of float in the system is the issue. Crap for dynamic riding (yep, DH pros and mallets) and crap for your knees if you rack up the kilometres.

I wish I could like them cos they are bulletproof and cheap but unfortunately not.
  • 1 1
 @slimjim1: Float is why I switched to flats. Don’t get tired after a few hours.

But Crankbrothers are flat out dangerous crap.
  • 23 3
 Tag nylon pedals have been out for years called nukeproof electron 2. Crank brothers nylons look like they have a horrible full axle length lump.
  • 3 2
 The crankbrothers aremt actually nylon which is kinda odd. They chose polycarbonaye which can be mote shatter prone under direct impact. Personally i think its not the best choice in plastic as nylon would do much better under impact forces because its a softer plastic. I hooe those crankbrothers are good but considering their past and this odd cjoice in plastic i wouldnt be supprised if they turned out to be awful
  • 5 1
 100% agreed. Supposed to be concave in the middle. If that pedal gets wet your foot is going sliding off. That is a horrible design. Best plastic peddle out is the Oneup.
  • 1 0
 @krumpdancer101: maybe a piece of grip tape to go there..
  • 4 3
 @krumpdancer101: Deity and Raceface both have fine offerings; there is no reason for somebody to buy any other platforms!
  • 4 0
 The Tag nylon pedals look like the Fleabay Scudgood pedals which go for about $20. Have a pair and like them, but I only ride in dry conditions, so my experience is limited.
  • 4 0
 @blob425: Ewe arin know pose ishon two bee kritsizing eneething with phucking SPELLING lyke dat!!!!

Geezus dood hav sum selph respekt an doo a SPELLCHECK nekst thyme!
  • 1 0
 @krumpdancer101: agree the OneUp is good, but it's not concave. No sliding off
  • 2 0
 @krumpdancer101: I thought that - The CB plastic pedal has such a pronounced hump over the axle that's pretty much the only thing you will be standing on.
  • 4 0
 Yes, agreed.That lump is going to render those pins pointless.
  • 1 0
 @TomBasic: If they cost the same I would go with them, no doubt!
  • 2 0
 @blob425: they are indeed nylon, not polycarbonate.
  • 2 0
 @TomBasic: Yeah, I noticed that too. I use the Scudgoods and have been pretty happy with them in wet conditions. They need to be disassembled and greased, but once that is done they work just as well as the set of Chesters that I have on another bike. Durability seems adequate too
  • 1 0
 @Mr-Horse @TomBasic: Just ordered a pair of Scudgoods for the wifes bike off Fleabay. Wants to get into flats and I thought the price was right. We'll see........
  • 1 0
 @lightsgetdimmer: Make sure you periodically tighten the traction screws, they do go loose eventually.
  • 1 0
 @Mr-Horse: Thanks for the advice. I never greased mine, but I think I shouldn't assume anything about them. I'll put that on my to-do list.
  • 1 0
 @TomBasic: will do,thanks!
  • 1 0
 @krumpdancer101: That's funny, the oneup is convex...their main design point. The Tag pedal is concave. Tag makes simple, well-designed, long-lasting moto parts....not exactly what gets marketed in the mtb bling bling $$ world....
  • 12 1
 Dear all dropper posts. If you can't adjust your travel from 170- anything then just stop trying. 1up has all of you beat. Plain and simple
  • 9 1
 What sort of educated journalist confuses diameter with width, it's internal rim WIDTH ffs
  • 8 1
 consuming more products as a consumer would consume more of your consuming time.
  • 3 0
 "...carbon and alloy wheels in both 275 and 29 inch versions..."

I figured the next wheel size would be an incremental increase, maybe 30 or 31 inch, but 275 inches?! Go big or go home, I guess.


"The carbon rims have a 28.6mm internal diameter, too."

It never ceases to amaze me how many people don't know what the word diameter means.
  • 1 0
 I really like the crankborthers Stamp because i can adjust the pins to create the perfect concave but it seems like the plastic has a raised middle so no concave? not thinking ill be buying those! hopefully its just a bad angle!
  • 1 1
 Been mtn biking for 30 years. Currently I only ride park, have a XC bike that I barely use. Please explain the dropper seat thing. My seat is quick release, have people become too lazy to get off their bike and adjust the seat. Have a drink of water, look around at the trees.... I really don’t get it. All you are doing is adding weight and complexity. Someone set me straight...........
  • 1 0
 I personally love the idea of dropper posts. Stopping is nice, but not always feasible. Same goes for reaching down to pull the qr seat clamp.
  • 4 0
 @Rrshredthegnar: If it has to be explained to you, you won't understand.
  • 4 0
 droppers are the sweetness. I might I adjust the seat height as often as I shift gears. You push the seat down and out of the way when you spot a jump coming up, it takes a fraction of a second. Then, when you come to a little climb, you prop up your butt, downshift, spin up, and let the ol' knees take it easy for a minute.
  • 2 0
 Been running Poly / Nylon pedals for years. DMR V6 usually. Awesome, Light, Cheap.
  • 2 0
 MIPS and the neck brace.........
  • 2 0
 loving the "speed bump" in the middle of those pedals. brilliant!
  • 2 1
 Still looking for the affordable dropper in this article, i mean, i see them all over the place, just not in this article
  • 4 2
 "$49.99 or €49.99."

f*ck off??
  • 1 0
 Isn't tag metals the parent company of sunline? Sounds like re-branded sunline products?
  • 1 0
 We need a “budget pedal shootout”- see how these two rate against the Race Face Chester
  • 1 0
 Tag Metals...great stuff, but where to get more information?? Website is not working yet. Frown
  • 1 0
 When and where can I order those grips? My DMR Brendogs are worn out, these look like a good replacement to try
  • 2 1
 Dammit, another new standard, '28.6mm internal diameter'
  • 1 0
 Happy about BOA integrating with MIPS.
  • 1 0
 TAG from moto catalog brand to mtb cataglog brand
  • 1 0
 What Team are you on?? Tag Team!! ;p
  • 1 0
 Where the e bikes at?
  • 8 11
 Why do they keep on trying to market mips!? I won’t pay 30$ more on a helmet and get less ventilation for unproven marketing bs.
  • 16 4
 You do you bud. Some of us like our heads.
  • 2 0
 I just recently purchased a new TLD A1 helmet with MIPS, to replace a non-MIPS A1. The MIPS version might actually have slightly more airflow...
  • 3 2
 yup... Kali helmets have the best protection.
  • 7 2
 MIPS is bullshit. I’d like to think well maybe it ain’t perfect but at least they’re trying...but as long as they can lean on this pseudo protection bollox we’re actually not getting any closer to better protection. It is gimmick first.
  • 3 2
 @iqbal-achieve: on what basis is it bullshit or a gimmick? Honest question, currently considering upgrading my helmet and am intrigued by this technology.
  • 5 0
 @Ktron: What a lot of helmet manufacturers are finding that when testing MIPS, the force of the impact and resulting friction between head and sliding layer prevents the MIPS layer from sliding like it should. Other brands are using different density foams (instead of a plastic layer) that slide/shear regardless of impact force, which is looking like a far better solution.
  • 1 0
 @ka-brap: Do you refer to POC and Leatt or what brands have that density foam?
  • 3 0
 @Startgas: POC, Kali, and Giro are all working on alternatives to traditional MIPS that uses foams/shearing layers that allow the rotational aspect to function under heavy loads (i.e. impacts). All of their impact testing claims to be well above the ASTM & CE standards, so they have that going for them at least.
  • 1 0
 I have a smith mips lid, but the 6d ODS lid looks like it would probably provide better protection in the kind of crash MIPS is supposed to make a difference in.
  • 1 1
 Junk brothers







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