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Twenty6 Predator Pedal and F1.2 Stem - Interbike 2011

Sep 15, 2011 at 10:01
by Mike Levy  
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Predator pedal: Tyler Jarosz is the man behind Twenty6, a small operation out of Montana that produces some of the coolest looking gear out there, including his Prerunner pedals that many riders have lusted over. While the Prerunners had a large following, Tyler was pretty sure that he could still improve on them. Enter the new Predator pedal, a completely new design that Jarosz claims offers more traction, has a larger footprint and uses new traction pins that are better protected from pedal strikes.

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Big changes for more traction: Tyler made three important changes with the new Predator pedal in an effort to increase traction. First, the pedal body uses a reduced surface area that sits lower than the Prerunner did, meaning that the new traction pins are in more contact with the soles of your shoes instead of them resting on the pedal body itself. Next, the revised pin layout is much wider than previously used, increasing the pedal's area of active traction. It is easy to see the difference when just holding them in your hands, with the pin location extending out from the threaded end of the axle noticeably more than on other designs. The last change is a more pronounced concave to the pedal body that is exaggerated even more by raised leading and trailing pin locations.

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Twenty6 Predator pedal details:
• CNC'd 6061 T6 billet pedal bodies
• Enduro bearings and turcite bushings
• Quad O-ring seals
• New breakaway pin design
• More pronounced concave
• Titanium or cromoly axle options
• Weight: 320g (w/ ti axles), 390g (w/ cromo axles)
• MSRP $194.99 - $284.99 USD (depending on axle and color choice)

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Revised traction pins: The Predator's pins, now made from 7075-T6 aluminum, have had much thought put into them, both for more traction and to improve reliability. They now sit in raised locations and are better protected from damage by being nestled into the pedal body, with the wide collar offering more support from three different points of contact. The pins, which are made by Twenty6 in the same machine shop, also feature a breakaway point that allows them to shear off cleanly instead of bending over and damaging the pedal body. When you order your Predator pedals you can choose from the aluminum pins shown above (in nearly limitless color options), or more robust steel and even titanium versions.

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Twenty6 F1.2 stem: Twenty6 also had their F1.2 stem on display for everyone to drool over. The 50mm stem uses a wedge system to clamp the steerer tube, making for a smooth backside that will be less likely to put a hole in your knee if you slip a pedal. Available in many different color options, as well as a 1.5" version called the F1.5, the stem retails for $122.99 - $135.99 USD.

Visit the Twenty6 website to see their entire lineup.

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79 Comments
  • 13 0
 The last I heard twenty 6 was a one man show from belgrade, Montana. Now for this guy to be making this quality of a product by himself is amazing. I've had the pleasure of meeting him once and he's a really cool guy. Being a local here in montana I think its awsome to have a montana made mountain bike part and I've had the same pre runner ti axle pedals for two years now with no major problems. There has been a little issue with pins but I've had that with every pedal that I've ever owned where you could replace the pins. Overall I think Twenty 6 products are making some amazing things and are a great addition two any bike. And all those haters talkin crap about these pedals why don't you start your own buisness and crank out some pedals that are of this quality and lets see how much better your product is and what bad things people will say about them. Oh and I would love to see somebody make a product that looks this good with this kind of quality for cheaper cause I doubt it will happen. EVER
  • 8 0
 You're right, the quality is obviously top notch. However, people are questioning the need for such quality and price for a part that will look trashed in a year, when you could get something cheaper, uglier, and of lower quality, but you would save a lot of money. in the end, its gonna be replaced anyways, and for what it is, there are many other options that aren't going to drastically change your ride. It's beautiful, but i for one could not possibly rationalize dishing out almost $300 for pedals; when you could use that money and have a nicer drive train, or frame, or suspension... something that will have a much larger affect on the way you ride. IMO i think companies like twenty6 are more for enthusiasts, and i am happy they exist, but realistically I will never own anything made by them.
  • 4 2
 Im dropping out of school to buy these pedals.
  • 36 0
 good call, pedals are way more important than education.
  • 2 0
 Those are some Beautiful Pedals!! lots of machine time required.. They're much more expensive to make than any other pedal I've seen.. Being a designer, I can appreciate the level of detail that's gone into the design.. Well done, Tyler!

Are they a top down extrusion, or machined from a solid piece?

I'm a one person design company too.. it's a struggle getting making it happen, but looks like you're doing it right! congrats.
Let me know if you want to trade for some FishClips.. www.shrockie.com (would have to be a LOT of them! hahahaha.. =)
  • 1 0
 Tyler's a great dude to deal with; I'm always happy to support a company like Twenty6. My only real complaint about the pedals (and the true reason I haven't bought a set...and it's not the $$$): they're really too pretty to ride. Silly reason, I know, but there is such a thing as "too boutique." Love my F1 stem and matching end-plugs.
  • 10 2
 But you will never slip off your pedals and if they meet your shin you got some trophies to show people you ride a bike and they are made in America
  • 13 2
 Though Twenty6 seem to be uber nice pedals with thought, attention to and quality behind them. That is not necessarily the result of being "Made in America." That used to be the case, 20 - 30 years ago when large companies globalized to Asia to keep costs really cheap. But as the Asia became more industrialized (as they are today, one of the most industrialized regions on the planet), The "Made in America" philosophy of better quality no longer holds the level of truth that it used to.

That said, Supporting the North American economy by Small business support from consumers, (free enterprise) is what ultimately created great wealth for the United States. But I digress.
  • 2 6
flag aflo661 (Sep 16, 2011 at 10:18) (Below Threshold)
 I would rather buy a low quality and expensive product made in North America or Europe than a high quality affordable product made in the far East. They may be industrialized but they are far from ideal as a source of manufacturing. Do some research on mass industry in china and you'll be shocked.
  • 6 0
 Hey aflo your norco is welded in Taiwan or china.
  • 1 0
 aflo, you make a good point that there are sometimes unethical political,employee and sometimes human rights ramifications of a global economy in emerging industrial nations. I won't debate that with you. My point is the "American Quality" cliche' is no longer relevennt

But at the end of the day, it makes sense from a business standpoint; that once you have reached critical mass, you can longer manufacture locally because the demand will be too high, more employees will be required to produce higher quantities of product and the cost will go up to the end consumer in order to pay for the extra labor (at American standards). Then you will probably sell less because of the higher prices and be unable to compete with brands with oversea manufacturing.

90% of the cycling industry is produced in Asia. If you were to boycott Asian manufacturing your options in cycling would not only be limited but very expensive.
  • 9 2
 Quality never goes out of style...but $284.99 USD for pedals...really?
  • 4 1
 Thats top grade axle and options. 194 is a good amount less...
  • 27 2
 You know what. Flat pedals probably take the most amount of abuse on any bike. And its such a shame that companies OVER ENGINEER them. I don't care about floating titanium sealed axle quad anodised O rings or whatever Don't get me wrong. They look amazing as do others brands like this, but normally they are silly money and in 2 years of hard riding they will be looking rough and you will be looking at your self saying. I wish I hadn't spent that much. And you will be lucky to get any way near what you paid for them if you want to sell them on.
  • 9 0
 kitch bicycle jewelry for people with too little problems, and capital surplus with a slight weight drop to feel a bit better about it? or is it just me?

Fk... waiting for Karl Lagerfeld to design pedals
  • 3 0
 @whipless: You ever looked at how much XTR chainrings cost?
  • 10 0
 Dont know why people fuss. These are expensive, yeah. They are also gorgeous and I enjoy looking at the photos. Im glad they exist quite frankly, just like Im glad Porsche makes the GT2. I cant afford one of those either but a man can dream.
  • 2 0
 Thats the irony of an automobile like that. Those who could truly enjoy the prowess of such a beast cannot afford to.
  • 1 0
 The pedals and the stem look great. I really appreciate the aesthetics, but they will not provide an increase in performance relative to their cost versus other products out there. I can justify expensive parts like brakes or suspension because you get a dramatic increase in performance when you spend more. Not the case with stems and pedals. But they look sick.
  • 3 0
 Maybe I don't know any better, but I'm sold on the Wellgo MG-1's. I'm on my 2nd pair, way more grip than 50/50's, and I just splurged and spent the extra money for the Ti version. So for about $80 I have great grip that weighs 286 grams, that's less than my CB Candy pedals. True they only come in black or white, but they get destroyed so quickly in the East that buying a cool anodized color would make me cry over every rock strike.
  • 1 1
 Love them too, but I don't know what you're saying about only black and white. Check Ebay. I also just took some rustoleum to some ugly blue MG-1s and now they have a kickass charcoal color with cool texture. MG-OOOOOOOOne!
  • 1 1
 My wife runs the ti Wellgos too. I got them of ebay for less than $100 delivered. Great pedals and have last 3 years.
  • 1 0
 I run ti wellgo...Love em, I'm sure these pedals are great but I really have no desire to spend 300 on pedals at least for right now.
  • 1 0
 I happened to be lucky last year and bought a set of Prerunners leftover from Last year's Interbike show table. Tyler sold about 50 pairs on PB's Buy- Sell/ pedals . Although the colors were all crazy flourescant green or orange or yellow. My trusty Dremel tool helped with that. For you guys looking to get a good price on some Prerunners and it's interbike season now, you might want to keep an eye peeled in the Pedals catagory for some possible good deals. I also got a great deal on some BIing brake levers. 20.00. By the way, they are the lightest and most comfortable flat pedal I have ever owned with no mechanical issues at all. The foot surface is HUGE1
  • 1 0
 Not only available in black and white, bought my MG-1 pedals in red, had other colours too where I bought mine.
  • 1 1
 I think the TI version are only black and white, the regular MG-1's come in colors, and those are under $50 shipped. Great deal for sure.
  • 2 0
 If you're bragging about spray-painting your Wellgos, you're clearly not the target market for these pedals. Are you sure you don't actually ride a Huffy?
  • 1 0
 No one said they were spray painting their pedals.
  • 1 0
 Actually, I did (say I spray painted my wellgos). Yeah, I could probably afford $300 pedals, but the Wellgos with the spray paint do the trick. And yes, I have ridden the 26s.

Stop being a 1%-er dick. Not everyone can afford annodization.
  • 5 0
 Haha, is it me or is "They now sit in raised locations and are better protected from damage by being nestled into the pedal body..." a bit of a contradiction?
  • 5 1
 they are alu.. will ripp off more easy than steel.. and i think they are wayyy to exspensive.. Frown
  • 1 1
 "When you order your Predator pedals you can choose from the aluminum pins shown above (in nearly limitless color options), or more robust steel and even titanium versions." 7075 aluminum is much stronger than 6061-T6 and has a tensil strength camparable to some grades of titanium.
  • 2 0
 Steel ones will surely damage the threads on the pedal body?
  • 1 2
 The shouldered body and shear groove in the pin should and,from what I've seen, will discourage pedal body damage...unless you hit something that would kill ANY pedalSmile
  • 3 1
 theres alot of expensive pedals out why? i can see the engineering involved in brake systems, and drivetrains, but pedals come on really over 100 quid depending on the current exchange rate, just no not at all. I dont care if they're light either because i could loose more weight by having a hair cut.
  • 1 0
 But if you got you hair cut and had these pedals think of how much faster you could be.
  • 3 1
 Been running Twenty6 stuff for a few years...also a local here in Montana and have run into Tyler a few times. He is a good guy, rips it hard on his bike and makes great stuff. His stuff is expensive, but its worth the money. Cant wait to get a set of the new pedals.
  • 5 0
 price is more than a crankset of saint Big Grin
  • 1 0
 they look nice but I can't justify spending THAT much on a pair....for that price I could buy a new frame or wheelset even...and oftheTwenty6 pedals I've seen for sale used on PB here they're all bent up in one way or another...sorry...but I want something more robust and long lasting..I'll stick to my $50 pedals..they're only pedals...and no one is gonna see them when you're riding.
  • 2 2
 Id never buy 26 peddles again , the pin snap idea on the pre runners was a fail . My peddles after the first ride had broken eyelets . The pins were so crap, snapped of even if touching wood and became very blunt and slip y and dangerous and expensive . The never needed maintenance ? . My axels had big chunks of rust after 12 months .
Twenty six ! give up on the snap pins and build a decent peddle . I can only assume that these new pedals are also to close to the crankarm to save weight ? well that sux too .
  • 1 0
 My Prerunners were great. But, they are too expensive and delicate for everyday riding. I consider them to be a race pedal. Mine are doing great although I have to replace pins all the time. The newer pins break away in just the right spot. I was in a quest to get my 2010 Cove Shocker as light as possible w/ DH parts. Got her down to 37.5 #, and these pedals saved 250g over my Specialized Lo Pros...
  • 1 0
 @woollahra I'll take your advice when I can understand your post
  • 1 0
 I hope these guys make some clipless pedals my mallets are always broken in some way and shimano has an acquired feel that some like some hate. I'd love a set of clipless in commencal blue
  • 2 0
 Mmmhmmmmm!!!! I'll take the green and purple color scheme with titanium axles PLEASE and THANKS!
  • 1 0
 Will normal screws not fit the pedal again? Twenty6 make great pedals but those pins in prerunners were a problem after a few pedal strikes.
  • 1 0
 If you look closely at the pin "landing/shoulder" on the pin, you will see they are way more supported than the Prerunner pedal. The design also helps maintain friction on the pin so it does not loosen and rattle out. The pin mounting tabs are now almost as thick as the pedal body, so no more busted tabs with the Predator.
  • 1 0
 The 2011 prerunners had strong enough tabs imho but threaded pins work better on brake bumps type of obstacles and make it harder for you to get kicked off the pedals. Great pedals but for dh threaded pins work a bit better. Though yeah I would gladly try them.
  • 2 0
 I understand now. These pedals, due to the size I believe, are fantastic for keeping your foot on when pedaling over chop or when you miss a shift! And when you have to dab, it is much easier to replant your foot comfortably. I wasn't expecting the Predator to function better than my Prerunners, but they really do and will be staying on my bike even though the colors don't matchSmile . Tyler did a great job with finding the best pin placement platform and then designing the body around that function. So function came before form and the pedals turned out stellar!
  • 1 0
 Imho size has less to do with your feet staying on the pedals unless your pedals are 2003 small (prerunners were quite big). The pins are. These are still non threaded and that is why I see place for improvement (well that and the fact that I was never a fan of non standard parts). Threaded provide that little extra upwards friction
  • 1 0
 Must be the size and pin placement combo, but all works well...very well! I hear ya loud and clear though on interchangeable goods.
  • 2 0
 i agree with a few others.....over 200 for a friggin set of pedals....where and when will it stop ???
  • 3 0
 they look sweet as hell but i'm stickin with straitline
  • 1 0
 +1
ow and 5050's
  • 2 1
 They're soooo raaad ! The absolute cream of the cream right there ! Got a pair of 6foe on my DH and Prerunners on my XC bike. Those might go on my next full rigid 29er.
  • 3 1
 I remembered what Arnold said to the predator, back in 1987: you are an ugly m.......
  • 1 0
 I have that exact stem, i just changed it cause i have to re a-line it every ride ... tomorrow i am trying the chromag ranger, this one is for sale! anyone?
  • 2 0
 Wedge clamp stems suck balls, They always have, and always will. Good idea that never works.
  • 2 0
 those look like they would hurt if they hit you... but still really cool
  • 1 0
 love the pedals, looks great but too ouchy if slipped. after all, the price count..
  • 1 0
 200 for flats!? They better pedal the bike for me at that price... waste of money.
  • 1 0
 those are the koolest looking pedals i have ever seen
  • 1 0
 green and purple is hot. those pedals look radioactive!!
  • 1 1
 Seriously Expensive indeed, however. Quality stuff never is cheap. Light too at the weight quoted.
  • 2 1
 Amazing! I love how TI looks when it gets anodized
  • 1 0
 I don't know if they're any good or not but that's art.
  • 2 1
 Don't even care if those pedals work well, I gotta get some! Drool
  • 1 0
 Anyone interested in a used pair of green prerunners??? >Wink
  • 1 0
 ahhh all these sick stems coming out just as im after one
  • 1 0
 FUCK YA TYLER!!!
  • 1 1
 taking function out of the equation, these look awesome!
  • 1 0
 STUNNING!!!!
  • 2 2
 bling..............and nothing else
  • 1 2
 those pedals look abit funky
  • 8 0
 a bit funky there f*cking amazing i wont them Smile
  • 1 0
 Pretty sick stuff! Smile
  • 1 0
 sexy
  • 1 0
 make some nice clipless pedals! These are so nice, but useless for me Frown
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