Time Announces New 'Speciale 8' Enduro Pedal

Feb 20, 2019 at 13:11
by timesport  

PRESS RELEASE: Time

A year ago, we launched our first Enduro pedal in aluminum, the Speciale 12, today, we launch its little sister the Speciale 8. The Speciale 8 is still as reliable but more compact, lighter and more affordable with a price of 149€.

The Speciale 8 is made with an aluminum body which is slightly more compact than the Speciale 12, two adjustable pins to optimize grip and a micrometric tension system to meet the demands of the most specific riders. Its easy engagement and closure system (ATAC) is well known and allows easy entry and exit even in the most difficult conditions.


Technical characteristics:
• Weight: 196g per pedal/ 392g per pair
• Dimension: Length: 90mm, Width : 64mm, Thickness: 21mm
• Body material: Aluminum
• Technologies: ATAC/ Self Cleaning/ Micrometric tightening
• Cleats: ATAC 13°/17°
• Hollow steel axis- Steel bearing
• Price: 149,99€


ATAC (Auto Tension Adjustment Concept)
ATAC technology was developed by our engineers to make the step-in and step-out easier in our mountain bike pedal range: enduro, cyclocross and cross-country. The step-in is made by 2 movements: one to the bottom of the pedal, and the second downward. Touring/casual cyclists will be familiar with the automatic pedals and racers looking for performance will be out in front when it comes to step-in.


Self-cleaning
Self-cleaning is characterized by an instantaneous cleaning at step-in. This technology is applied to our whole mountain bike range: enduro, cyclocross and cross-country.


Micrometrical adjustment
To make performance and biomechanics one and the same, we developed a system on our mountain bike pedals to adjust the spring tension. A touring cyclist looking for an easy step-out could choose the low tension position whereas a racer would opt for the high tension to have more security in extreme conditions.

The Speciale 8 is fully assembled in France in our factory in Never and, as you just watched, our ambassadors Remy Metailler and Nicolas Quéré have already tested and approved the SP8 in all conditions.



MENTIONS: @timesport



82 Comments

  • + 49
 That looks good. Possibly ny next pedal. Would love a larger platform though. Like CBros or HT
  • + 181
 ... are you ok? This is the most non-offensive, average, middle of the road opinion you’ve ever given. There’s help. Don’t give up.
  • + 6
 @Junk2016: Lmao hold this W
  • - 30
flag BEERandSPOKES (Feb 20, 2019 at 15:36) (Below Threshold)
 #stilllookslikeamavic
#stilleffingdumb
  • - 14
flag jaydawg69 (Feb 20, 2019 at 15:58) (Below Threshold)
 don't need a large platform for clips...
  • + 5
 @BEERandSPOKES: À propos f-cking dumb. The Mavic looked like Time rather, simply cause they were rebadged Time. Just as simple as that.

I'm happy they show a cheaper alternative to the Special 12. I don't give a dam about the platform size because your shoe should have only minimal contact with the pedal, otherwise unclipping gets dodgy.
  • + 6
 @EnduroManiac: I had Times MX4 and I am a huge fan of their system. Their 17degrees of float as well as click in/out feedback are my favorite of all. But I must give it to Crank Bros and the Mallet DH that the platform is fantastic. Size, concave and the fact that you can change the bricks under it so the shoe sits against them. I have not much more problem clipping out of them than from Mx4 other than for float angle alone which for CB is 5degrees wider. The thing I don’t like about Times MX4 is the lack of support for the shoe. It simply makes no sense what so ever to have any platform when it is recessed so much. So if you don’t like your clipped in shoe resting on anything, you may as well skip this mess and buy yourself regular ATACs. You save weight and money
  • + 2
 i hav been searching the ideal clippedal for 20 years now and failed so many times. i bought ht x2 with a longer axle off troys bike last year and after i finally removed all pins last month, it is the best pedal i have ever owned . very supportive plattform, very firm grip, easy to get in and out (with pins installed not so much)
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: the sole of the shoes should be rigid enough for not having to rest on anything, but it's just my opinion. I'm on MX4 (or the Mavic equivalent) and like them a lot, to the point I pretty much given up riding flats. Not too much experience with CB as I disliked them too quickly Smile
Having a minimal amount of platform is a must for me for those unclipped moments. They don't happen so much, but I doubt any shoes would roughly stay in place unclipped on these pedals. Unless they have a very soft sole (cf start of this comment Big Grin ). Other nice thing of the Time Special(s): adjustable tension.
  • + 5
 @EnduroManiac: i personally hate it if you have the feeling of standing on a tiny metal platform, or should i say spot. as long as the platform has no pins and your shoe matches the pedal in and unclipping should be fine.
  • + 1
 @EnduroManiac: shoe sole has little if anything to do with it. It is about standing on a platform that does not make your shoe wiggle side to side as if you were walking in high heels. Can you do a split squat standing on cleat alone? yes you can. But should you? Side to side stability is really important for the balance on the bike. it does not matter how stiff the sole is, you could have it made of 2cm thick iron. It will still feel weird to balance on if you place a lump under it. It feels kind of Ok in Shimano or HT pedals if you tighten the spring a lot, because then your she is fixed very well but in Times and CB the cleat itself floats a lot in all directions. I have no idea what purpose does the platform in MX4 serve. I loved them for the mechanism. Platform imho was unnecessary.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: my shoes do slightly contact the rear of the platform and that seems to be enough. I never felt any kind of instability and do appreciate the controlled side to side play.
What I'd love to see are cleats that could be laterally adjusted à la Shimano or CB to be able to slighly adjust the stance.
  • + 1
 @EnduroManiac: I mean in Mallets you can still have float sideways and the foot rotates (as long as you don't screw out the pins too much), like you would have with TImes. It's just that the shoe doesn't tilt with them. My perfect pedal would be Time mechanism in Mallet cage that rotates like old Shimano PD 424 Big Grin .
  • + 1
 Nothing but issues with Mallets not unclipping properly and cleats wearing so quickly. Went with XT and don't notice the less platform. The only time you feel the difference would be in you're not clipped in which defeats the purpose of clips
  • + 1
 @jaydawg69: i still cant imagine how pros keep their feet in mallets such a soft and wonky mechanism. Shimano still has not enough tension and platform for me
  • + 2
 @optimumnotmaximum: since so many run them, I guess they are doing fine. Mallets and HTs are the most popular on the DH circuit. Not many on Shimanos and Times. Considering pedals are so personal I could not give a tiniest damn. Just run what you like and avoid what you hate
  • + 1
 @optimumnotmaximum: Because they don’t rely on the pedals for upwards pull. If you’re pulling your feet out the mechanism on crankbrothers pedals, its because of poor technique, relying on the pedals for upwards pull on hops etc. The way I see mallet dh is they give the support and feel of a flat pedal, while using the mechanism to hold your foot in place, rather than just the traction of pins. I think its a bit of a misconception that the platform on clipless pedals is for unclipped moments. That’s why the mallet dh works so well with shoes that have a large flat sole, such as the hellcat pro, chamber II, afton vectal etc.
  • + 1
 @jawa: exactly. I also miss how recessed the cleatmounts were on old Hellcats and old Shimanos. If someone uses stiff XC ballerinas, then yeah, no point in having a platform. Especially one that is flushed with the mechanism base.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: just a few posts above you’ve "demonstrated" me the plaform has nothing to do with the shoe stiffness and the interest of the plaform was to control the sideway float. But now it’s all ok with stiff shoes?
  • + 1
 @EnduroManiac: if you ride a xc shoe with xc undersole which we know what it looks like, it will not rest that well on any platform. A “freeride”, DH shoe has a flat undersole that sits against the platform much better. Just like a flat pedal shoe sitting against a flat pedal. Even the stiffer kind of dh shoe like Impact VXi clipless is evidently flexier and has a thinner sole than a XC shoe, hence better feel against the platform. Xc shoe will always feel wobblier. They have their place, I have nothing against them, but I personally (and many more) like a plated feel of flat pedal shoe, both for descending and climbing. I personally use clips only for descending rockgardens at speed.it allows me to be more forward over the bike without worrying about my feet falling off pedals. I don’t care about supposed potential power delivery or efficiency benefits. I climb better on flats but that’s another can of worms
  • + 1
 @jawa: i never unclipped with them while pulling up, i also do bunnyhops correctly most of the time. I always got blown out though while cornering or getting a hit while cornering. I find it quite hard to twist your body without your foot beeing kept in place. I know this is also due to my poor technique but still can not imagine how you can hold your foot straigth during hard cornering.
  • + 1
 @optimumnotmaximum: I stopped riding Shimanos because I would unclip in corners with rocks in them. My choice was either to max out the tension and pray to not need to put my foot out in a loose corners, or ease of ff the tension to around 70% and pray everytime my rear wheel would get bumped up in the middle of a rough corner so that when I land sideways my outside foot won't clip out. I am told it is quite similar with HT pedals. I never had that issue with Times or Crankbros and I must say I appreciate rotational float a lot for cornering, to the point when I get on flat pedals for the winter period and my knees start hurting from twisting over the bike while feet stay totally planted.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: it happens to me with every pedal, shimano ist the worst but cb was also not good. With ht you can crank up the tension to 11. I experimented with them and now run the extra firm x2 cleat with minimum tension, like they originally came from mr. Brosnans bike. Now i am finally happy with my clip setup.
  • + 1
 @optimumnotmaximum: I mean when cleats wear out, it’s totally understandable. The worst thing that happened to me was when I hit a rock with my Time MX4 in Hafjell and kept unclipping later on, once mid flight. It turned out, one of springs broke, so sometimes it was keeping the cleat in, and sometimes it was opening itself.

X2 cleat?
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: cb cleats wear in sevonds though. I like to push up and ride down a lot that maybe why i did not get along with the cb very well. I remember that with new cleats they were quite ok. Ht offers different cleats for its pedals, my cleat is the x2, i think it is the firmest and has very little if any float.
  • + 20
 Time doesn't exist, Clocks exist
  • + 1
 Can't wait to see Clocks' pedals on next-years Walmart and Canadian Tire bikes.
  • + 3
 Our measurement of time is an invention and relative to our planet, but time exists -- events happen in sequence, not all at once.
  • + 2
 I'll second that.
  • + 8
 I've been using Time pedals for about 15 years now and they're truly incredible! Extremely long lasting and ATAC works really well. Now I'm on MX2 and they're more than great wiht very good price tag and cheap look Big Grin If I had any complaines I would say that the pedal body should be a little bigger. Other than that I have no issues with them.

Speciale are looking very speciale but If you're on a budget trust me that with MX2 you will be more than fine Smile
  • + 12
 It’s about time!
  • + 7
 Been riding the Speciale 12 for a year and LOVE them. Awesome to see a more affordable version for the non-surgeons out there! ????????
  • + 11
 Bold move calling yourself out as a surgeon on Pinkbike. Bold move, Cotton.
  • - 1
 @OriginalDonk: i know surgeons and they all suck at mountainbiking. always that :"uuh my precious hands" Wink
  • + 1
 @larnomx I loved the MX I had but they were too thick....do you know if they are as slim as Mallet E/DH?
Have they been bulletproof?
  • + 1
 @mizzter-b: Not sure how they compare with the Mallet E/DH but I can measure the MX and the Speciale 12 tonight as I have both at home. Bulletproof for sure!

@OriginalDonk -- it shoud read "for us non-surgeons out there" Smile
  • + 2
 can confirm. I've had my speciale 12's for about a year and I am not giving them up for anything
  • + 1
 I’m a surgeon and didn’t spring for the Speciale 12s at their insane price... Now if only my Mallet E’s would die I’d try these but I can’t seem to kill them.
  • + 1
 Can you measure the dimensions of the 12 since I can’t find them anywhere on the web and I’m debating the 8 vs the 12 yet no where do they give the 12 dimensions to compare.
  • + 3
 After 4 full seasons on Shimano SPDs, I switched to TIME Z pedals 9 years ago for gravity riding and the only different pedal "system" I'd ever consider are FLATs. TIME Z pedals allow so much micromovement for your cleats and such wide angles for your foot to and ankle to work in that the only alternative really is only flats which I now consider to switch to in order to learn correctly ride the bike.
  • + 1
 I quite do not understand such promotional videos for bicycle products. Does this mean that I will ride as hard as the guy in the video when I will have those pedals on my bicycle?
Talking about the enduro pedal and then an E-bike for most half of the video??

Only interesting parts were drawings of the pedal assembly and then clipping in. In total 2s were product related.

Haters gonna hate my comment. Sorry for that.
  • + 1
 Neat! I just went back to Time pedals after a 6 year stint on CB, stoked to be back on Time. Very solid product. Running MX6. Only occasional issue is difficulty trying to unclip. I’ll take that any day over coming unclipped when you don’t want to, like mid-air! Landing with 1 leg is sketchy!
  • + 5
 sneaky E-mtb worming it's way in to the edit
  • + 0
 trying not to offend any minorities here but riding an ebike clipped in is the gayest thing I'll see today.
  • + 2
 @colincolin: trying not to, and then continuing to use a demeaning term is the douchiest thing i've seen all day
  • + 1
 @lognar: well, you're not wrong. would it be ok if I were gay myself?
  • + 1
 @colincolin: not really. And if you were gay, wouldnt that imply you love ebikes?
  • + 1
 If Time is listening... I used your atacs for years, love the system, then had two sets of pedals in a row where the press fit cleat retainer spring axle came out. I tried to warranty them with no success. I hope these are better built (Imo pedals at this level should be using bolts, not pressfit nonsense). Id love to try them, but won't. My xts do not perform as well, but they have never left me with one foot unclipped mid ride, so there is that.
  • + 0
 So am I the only one thinking no one knows how to write a tech article anymore? You say the platform is slightly smaller than the 12 and proceed to give the dimensions of the 8 at 90x64x21 but that means nothing when you have nothing 12 dimensions to compare against. To make matters worse I go back to you speciale 12 review and no specs there. I’ve literally searched everywhere and every article is the same about the 8 “slightly smaller” and proceeds to list the 8’s spec with nothing to compare against. This doesn’t help a potential buyer who’s been on the fence about buyin the 12 or waiting for the cheaper alternative, now the cheaper alternative is here yet I have no idea how it compares to the 12. Why even list the 8 dimensions without what it is comparing against?
  • + 1
 Make them with steel cleats so the cleat doesn't wear so fast like the current brass ones.........then I might be interested.
  • + 1
 The brass cleat is a crucial part of the system, it reduces friction on the cleat/pedal interface and is required for the float that distinguishes Time.
  • + 1
 @timesport
What is Q factor please?
What is thickness and how do you define? (it says the 21mm above and 17mm on your website)
Cheers
  • + 1
 I done dumb and answered wrong question. I don't know either answer and I'm sorry for wasting everyone's time.
  • + 1
 Seems like kind of a dangerous place to put a tiny adjustment bolt, but with the price coming out of the stratosphere I’m curious to try these...
  • + 3
 You had me up until e-bike.
  • + 1
 Oooo, been waiting for this, was hoping they would go larger in the platform though. Smaller seems like they might as well just add pins to the MX8.
  • + 2
 They’re still bigger than the mx8. The mx8 measure about 80mm long x (I didn’t measure width) x 21 thick. Unfortunately they didn’t list the 12 specs so we have no clue how they compare to the 12.
  • + 1
 Anybody know if crank brother cleats work with these pedals or vice versa? I would like to try a pair out on a bike, but use the same shoes for several bikes.
  • + 1
 Wanted a set of the 12's but couldn't justify the price, I'll be on these ASAP!
  • + 2
 Black or Orange, surely not, we need COLOURS!!
  • + 1
 No e-bike dedicated model? I will pass...
  • + 1
 How are these better than Time Atac MX2 pedals?
  • + 1
 look ace....when can you buy them
  • + 1
 HT just copied this and selling for same price!
  • + 12
 Except they don't have the angular float of the Times. As far as I know, Time is the only brand to offer that amount of float combined with proven technology and reliability. That's why I've used exclusively Time pedals for the last 25 years.
  • + 2
 @cool3: how does time compared to cb pedals?
  • + 5
 @ugez: I finally gave up on my Crank Bros and went back to Times. The CBs just didn't hold up over time. Also the aluminum they were made of snagged rocks and made little knife edges that would slash me every time I pushed my bike. I know the answer was to get fitter and quit pushing but I am 60, lazy and too fat. You could say that at my TIME of life, I have made a choice.
  • + 6
 @ugez: Let's put it this way. I'm still running a set of Time pedals from back in the days when CB didn't even make pedals. My newest set is over 10 years old and I just move them from bike to bike and replace the cleats when they wear out.
  • + 6
 The biggest downside to Time pedals is they last so long that I'm riding several generation old sets. The biggest benefit to CB pedals is they are light enough that bringing a spare set only weighs as much as regular pedals. You will need this spare set because CB pedals will blow up and ruin your ride too often.
  • + 3
 @ugez: CB are known for not lasting very long, from what I've heard. On the other hand, I have Time pedals lasting for 10+ years without even changing a bearing.
  • + 3
 This. Running a set of ATACs that are so old I can’t remember when I got them. They’ve been on several bikes in all conditions, still no issues.
  • + 2
 @drivereight Huh? You mean the T1 that was out for a couple years before time did and "enduro" pedal?
  • + 1
 And you make them in black, the deal is seal!
  • + 1
 It seems that they'll be offered in black indeed, based on the last picture of the pedals above.
  • + 1
 crap, I just bought a set of Nukeproof Horizons.
  • + 1
 So glad they work on eBikes phew
  • + 1
 i have no time of it.
  • - 1
 Time pedals are great if you like blowing out of your pedals unexpectedly and/or buying cleats all the time.
  • - 3
 If I keep having issues with the new XTR pedals, I'm definitely going to give these a try!
  • + 1
 Have ridden the new XTR. That said, I have a set of 25 year old XT M-series that are almost perfect
  • + 1
 What issues? Trail or normal?

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