Black Market Roam - Revisions

Jan 6, 2011 at 21:45
Jan 6, 2011
by Tyler Maine  
 
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Just like the Killswitch before it, the Roam from Black Market Bikes has piqued a lot of interests from the AM crowd that likes to hang it out a little more when they ride. Carter and crew have been hard at work on this new bike and the most recent revisions show great promise.

Check out the current prototype and the newest CAD revisions of the Black Market Roam.



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134 Comments

  • + 8
 Im not knocking black market cause I've never heard anything bad about them. But if this bike had a cannondale or norco sticker on it everyone would say it looks like shit. But I think it's funny that black market has such a big hype that everyones gotta bust a nut when they see one.
  • + 4
 "...blah blah this bike looks SOOO AWESOME" That's a great point, and the bike is probably welded by the same person...the same guy sitting back and laughing at the ignorant state of frenzy that marketing hype promotes.
  • + 3
 why is everybody ripping this it looks sweet to me
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  • + 4
 This bike seems like it's confused. 66HA, but only 5.7 of travel? Needs just a little bit more travel a-la Mojo HD or Nomad in my opinion, even 6.7 to step on the feet of the Reign X or old SX. Glad BM is producing trail bikes now, though.
  • + 3
 that just means youd have to spec it with a talas
  • + 1
 although the bb would be really low with the talas all the way down. Lots of pedal strikes when climbing
  • + 0
 thats just half the fun Wink
  • + 1
 I would marry this bike if it was a 6.7 or even a 7 inch bike Big Grin please please please let there be more travel
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  • + 3
 its a single pivot bike. what makes it different from all the single pivots out there? i like the top tube though. its so low i think the stand over on this baby is one of the best in its class.
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  • + 1
 Looks like a good, dependable bike. Not sure about the micro-adjustable dropouts - I woulda gone for two sets of holes with centres 12mm apart and forget the chain tensioner - unless they are using the same dropouts on a different frame and therefore they are making one set of dropouts for multiple frames.
  • + 2
 On reflection, those dropouts would make sense on the Killswitch. Yes, indeed.
  • + 1
 What would be the point of having chain tugs on the dropouts on this bike? It's not possible to run it single speed (because of chain growth throughout the stroke) without a chain tensioner anyway... right?
  • + 2
 Yes, you are correct. There is quite a bit of chain growth with a high single pivot such as this, therefore you would need a tensioner. The tugs would allow for chainstay adjustment. Pull 'em out for a faster, more stable bike. Tug 'em in for a a tight, poppy bike.
  • + 3
 It's an overlap fit adjustable dropout. The bolts that move the dropout are there because the first prototype drops where hard to pull back and forth just with the two bolts. The adjuster bolt creates and easy fine adjustment without the "look" of having one. It has nothing to do with single speed tension. The drops will also come in a through axle/Maxle fit threads.

Pablo
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  • + 42
 That looks like the PERFECT whistler bike.
  • + 6
 looks nice. lets hope its as good as their street frames
  • + 7
 frame looks sick! Is a saint dh groupo a little heavy though for the frame style?
  • + 33
 Looks like it would be a great do-it-all bike. Is it just me or does the geo look almost more freeride?
  • + 1
 looks good!
  • + 7
 the graphic photos remind me of the corsair maelstrom
  • + 3
 Never thought they'd get into the full suspension market. Good looking bikes though. That killswitch is sick too
  • + 6
 great to see a bigger bike by them Big Grin
  • - 26
 rigodon777 i live in whistler and ride the park everyday this bike would get killed but on trail rides it would be sweet
  • + 14
 How are you making judgements on a bike that you havent even ridden? It looks bombproof to me. On what grounds would it get killed?
  • + 4
 That's right. "Damn" is spelled like "lamb"... Dambit!
  • + 1
 my friend rode his killswitch at whistler and was fine, i even tried it for a run and thought it was super fun
  • + 3
 Mm, I'm going to agree with you kevron711, saint looks a bit overkill, I guess there might be a couple of 'build kits' released like a few companies are doing now, so they might do a more freeride orientated one (setup above perhaps) for hitting parks with, but that taking up the hill wouldn't be impossible, then they might wang a load of SLX on one lighten it up a bit and make it a bit more of an all rounder Smile Looks sick whichever way you look at it!
  • - 32
 this bike looks good but the norco shore is the same build... id say they copied off norco tbh
  • + 3
 not a fan of that rear der cable routing on the chainstay. that houing is going to be beat to shit after one run unless they supply a durable protector over it.
  • - 3
 sure they will tbh. i jizzed when i saw those CAD pics
  • + 1
 reminds me of the Nukeproof Scalp. ..one way to get neg props haha
  • + 3
 Black Market actually make amazing bikes, wow Smile
  • + 3
 Shorewhore a simple tube wrap would do just fine..
  • + 3
 Its not so much that the saint groupo is overkill, maybe when they release it there will be saint with the coil version, and then slx or something with the air shock?

Either way it does look amazing...and super slack!
  • + 1
 I run saint groupset on my 6 incher. Burly build for big stuff. Love the look of this frame.
  • + 4
 yeah looks like a great do-it-all freeride bike Big Grin dunno what ripperboy was on about this look perfect for whistler! imagine it on A-line Drool haha
  • + 2
 its almost like they tried to make a dh bike, but ended not having enough travel from the linkage.
  • + 3
 There was a Blkmrkt rep parked next to our tent at a local DH race, he let us ride this bike around, I seriously loved it! Very nimble and a nice amount of travel, the first time you swing your leg over it feels like its been your bike for 2 years!
  • + 0
 @kevron711 Saints are hollowtech so not too heavy Smile
  • + 2
 Yeah but what about something like slx or around that group for cranks
  • + 1
 yeah i have slx on my hardtail - its 44 pounds :S lol but they r amazing! really strong decent weight and look real nice Big Grin
  • + 3
 Its true, they aren't too heavy for their strengtht, but say theres a sorta 'required strength of kit' rating for kit on bikes, a DH bikes kit would need to be 9/10 and a halfords bike (Americans/Canadians dunno if you know halfords, they're mass produced toy bikes) would need to be 1. Are you going to be riding this bike to a 10/9 strength level, or actually to a 7/8 level tops, the SLX cranks are probably around 7/8 in the grand scheme of things, so why go for heavier burlier (and ultimately more expensive) cranks when they'll do the same job on that bike? Its just my opinion, hope I've explained it properly! haha Smile
  • + 1
 well explained. the only reason i can think of is that thats the top spec model for people who want the best (lets face it, its sexy) but i guess there will be equally capable lower spec models, like with domains and SLX/strokers rydes etc
  • + 1
 yeah ollyj thats true the slx might not be the lighest or the strongest but they fit between nicely enough to do most things - from xc to dh Razz i have them and pro bars from xmas still need to post pics though Big Grin
  • + 2
 low bb, medium travel,low COG and toptube, short chainsay, short wheel base this looks like one of the funnest bikes ever
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 joe i disagree it seems similar to a bottle rocket in that manor. Bottle rocket has 5.5in and a 67ha plus it seems like its more meant for someone that wants a bike that will be light and okay to climb but still be a blast dh
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  • + 1
 With a worthy pilot behind the bars,i've no doubt whatsoever that this bike could have endurance DH events the world over totally owned.Not to mention the Megavalanche,and related races.This is one of the best mountain bikes i've seen in a long while,just pure beautiful.
Gringo.Drool tup
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  • + 1
 like the look of it, the geo looks like fun as well

dont like the short stroke shock... 2" stroke seems short by todays standards for a 6inch bike would really work an air can on a long run,

something the change for the mk2 i guess.
  • + 1
 57mm stroke
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  • + 2
 Props to the S&M/Blackmarket peeps...lots of potential here! Makes me feel really good as I write this holding my beer in an S&M 20th Anniversary coozie around my beer and seeing the progression of S&M. Smile
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  • + 1
 Here are high quality renderings I left on the Black Market FB page. The ones here where actually just for Carter to check what the updates looked like.

www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1533552902674&set=o.243406375312
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  • + 2
 It's the bike of my dreams, but it is still overly swoopy like an SX. Those are feminine lines....not something I want on my bike. The green and yellow CAD models look a lot better than the black.
  • + 1
 i completely missed this comment when I wrote a reply to the above... my thoughts exactly... however, I had an sx...
  • + 3
 I dunno, I don't think its anywhere near as swoopy, this looks quite sleek, like it just gives you more standover height without making an odd looking toptube and seat mast reinforcement thing. The new SX's (09 and newer) just look like they've been left in the sun too long Wink haha
  • + 2
 the point is that it's aesthetically out of place with the rest of the bike. the sx's are justified with their reasoning, and understandably so. turndown's and clearance, great pro's for a fr bike, why on an am bike that's meant for heavy use... the cad drawings were simple and clean.
  • + 2
 The first protos came with that awful bend at the top tube and was a mistake by the manufacture. It was never the intent to have the "swoop"
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  • + 1
 There are so many choices out there, this looks like it fits right in line with a Scratch, built and comfortable on free ride, but capable of AM. I would stick with the Scratch as my personal choice. Good looking bike though, but if it pedals like a new SX trail, it is not meant to go uphill, capable and meant to, are two different things.
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  • + 1
 That looks sooooo awesome! So simple yet. In the era of "not_sure_we_need_that_much_tech" bikes that looks spot on. As with killswitch: a capable bike-masterpiece pretender.

One thing though. Top tube looks pretty short. Good for FR and miniDH but one might feel a bit crumped when the time comes to put some power down or have some good pressure on the front on tech trails. But well maybe downward movement was the main thought.
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  • + 2
 So sick!! This thing has Pablo's signature details all over it. That guy is a mad genius. This frame couldn't be any sweeter!
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  • + 1
 That looks pretty sick but......please morph that muverfugger into a DH monster!.....in that wild green color used in the first 2 CAD drawings!! :p
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  • + 1
 I think that the seat tube is kind of long.I personally will want something like 16 inches for M size,like the Banshee Spitfire sizing.
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  • + 2
 only so long until they add 3 inches and hey presto, they have a downhill bike
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  • + 3
 This. Is. Awesome. 'nuff said
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  • + 4
 lovin' the flat black
  • + 0
 umm, do you mean matt black?
  • + 1
 umm, do you mean matte black?
  • + 0
 umm, do you wanna stfu and admire this work of art while jizzing all over?
  • + 1
 matte and flat...... same shit
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  • + 1
 that thing would look wicked with the s-post slamed into the seat tube and my a$$ on top of it, it would prob rub a full compress but wth
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  • + 0
 Looks sweet! Although what's the purpose of the adjustable dropouts? At first glance they don't make sense to me unless the dropouts were horizontal and the frame would work with a single speed setup.
  • + 4
 Adjusting Chainstay length
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  • + 2
 How much are the ROAM'S going retail at ?
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  • + 1
 It will be really hard to keep those CNC parts clean... Bike looks very good.
  • + 1
 Probably gonna put a protective cover like the older Giants had/have. I
  • + 1
 damn that cover is a good idea! what do you use for that?
  • + 1
 They are made of a carbon fibre just fit over the hole, screw at the top one on each side.
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  • + 1
 chainstay length makes a huge difference in ride characteristic, even if it is only .2"
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  • + 1
 If and when my Sx breaks ,i will consider this option.I wonder how the warranty is.
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  • + 1
 Anybody know when these are availiable in the UK and how much for a complete build? Looks sweet
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  • + 1
 Anyone know when this frame will actually come out? Would like to get me one ASAP! Big Grin
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  • + 1
 cant wait - never owned a full sus befor but i sense a change in the wind.......
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  • + 1
 Goddamnit, I cant decide between a Bottlerocket and the Roam. What do you guys think?
  • + 4
 be a badass and get the roam.
  • - 1
 get the roam, bottlerockets feel like garbage unless you have them absoutely dialed. plus the roam looks badass
  • + 3
 But I can probably get a much better deal on a Bottlerocket.
  • + 3
 BottleRockets are awesome. Owned one for 3 years. Not so great at the up,however fan bloody tastic at the downs and on jumps. Take a little getting used to if you move from a proper DH bike. If you are mainly doing shuttles/lifts then go the Rocket.
  • + 2
 The Bottle Rocket is more simple. The whole big CNC part of the Roam looks like it will hold all the dirt from the trail. The hammer link, is just another single pivot design. And physically, there is no reason for those curved top- and downtube (for all frames).
  • + 1
 Downtube maybe, but top tube could theoretically be for stand over hight, slightly lower center of gravity and trick-ability.
  • + 1
 Trick-ability isnt a valid property.
  • + 2
 I mean It's probably easier to get your leg over the top tube; good for tail whips, can-cans ect. Don't know how many guys will be whipping it, but whatever.
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  • + 1
 This is just one of those bikes, where you just by looking at the picture, can feel the rush of a rockgarden in Whistler
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  • + 1
 this looks pretty nice. good to see the hammer link being adapted to the AM market.
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  • - 2
 Bullshit;
-taper HS (1.5 !!)
-missing mounts on TT for the adj.seatpost
-ETE should be at least 216
-i hope thru-axle dropouts are available
-wheelbase , tt, reach data ?
-rear triangle looks friendly for some derailleur/disc protectors (check out lapierre...)
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  • + 1
 anyone know any figures for buying this sick looking machine?
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  • + 1
 nice i want to try one of these !
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  • + 1
 Any word on price point? Also is this 4130 or aluminum?
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  • + 1
 IMO Dartmoor shine looks nicer
  • + 1
 IMO Shine also has far less travel.
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  • + 0
 Meh...another single pivot bike....yay...NOT. (and yes, I do have a hate on for SP bikes!)
  • + 2
 So much hate you called yourself Bullit-dan, and own a Santacruz Bullit?????.........OK THEN.
  • + 1
 I USED to own a Bullit. Was great, till I rode a true 4 bar. eyes opened!!! But for some reason I cant change my screen name...do you know how?
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  • + 1
 norco 6ish... killswitch way better
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  • + 1
 The rear triangle has a totally different look from the front
  • + 2
 yeah, the cad drawing's look way better than the production run. the swooping front triangle looks out of place. the computerized rendition looks sick though.
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  • + 1
 This thing just looks so freak cool!
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  • + 1
 Does anybody have any idea of a release date? Early, mid, late 2011?
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  • + 1
 sweet, as soon as they make a dh bike, im buying it.
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  • + 1
 Anyone know where Black Market produces their frames?
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  • + 0
 mannnnnn i want that... its sooooooo sik the perfect dh look
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  • + 1
 that sandover is awesome
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  • - 1
 was it just me who noticed the 3D graphic pictures of the frame had relitively strait tubing and the picture of the actual machine had swoopy tubing?
  • + 2
 yeah the straight lines one looks amaaaazing and i don't much the like actual photo. i reckon the photo is either small or xsmall so the bigger sizes could have straighter top tubes. i want it!!
  • + 1
 the actual photo was the early prototype the CAD drawings are the new revised version they haven't actually built it yet
  • + 2
 hense the name of the article
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  • - 1
 it's the killswitchs big sister (because the killswitch goes huge on ss and this is am)
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  • + 1
 that bike looks SICK!!
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  • + 0
 It looks the the All Mountain bike that you could easily tailwhip.
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  • + 0
 thats so sick! but i think it needs a bit of a bigger rear shock
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  • - 2
 Also there is no need for the top tube to be so low just under the seatpost... its should be lower where you need it to be lower (check the new Demo)
  • + 2
 Angry much? Maybe this bike isn't for you . You seem to spend alot of time shitting all over people's rides based on your posting history.
  • + 1
 its just a shame the bike is a compromise like many others and not the full package, the best most upgradeable platform available
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