Prototype 650B Devinci Wilson

Feb 22, 2014
by Mike Levy  
Devinci Global Racing's Nick Beer was aboard a prototype 650B wheeled Wilson during last weekend's New Zealand National Championships, and his race run aboard the bike saw him place third, less than three seconds off of the winning time. Nick was understandably cautious about showing the bike off, wheeling it quickly out of sight when he wasn't up to speed on it, and the only look that we've had of it up until now were video screen grabs that revealed only a revised forward shock mount. There is more to be seen, though, as this photo from our man hiding in the bush clearly shows.

Prototype Devinci Wilson with 650B wheels

Nick Beer's prototype Wilson uses 650B wheels, as well as a different shock position, suspension detail, and is built out of aluminum.



The most obvious talking point, at least from looking at this photo, has to be the revised shock position that sees it attached to the rocker arm (Devinci refers to this as the 'Control Link') with a short extension. The Control Link still rotates concentrically around the bottom bracket via two massive sealed bearings, just as on the current 26" wheeled Wilson Carbon, but it differs in shape slightly compared to what is found on the standard bike, and its unfinished appearance also alludes to the fact that the design is far from being locked down. ''"This piece is really the heart of the stiffness of the chain stays, and also how the bike reacts to bumps", Dave Weagle, the bike's designer, explained to us when we first debuted that Wilson Carbon in 2012, and we wouldn't be surprised to learn that different versions of the Control Link have been and will be tested during the off-season. The shape of the control link also determines the suspension's leverage ratio throughout its travel, as does the position of the forward shock mount. This is where the short extension connecting the Control Link and the shock comes into play, as it lets the shock be located where required, while also allowing for a short, stiff shape to the link that delivers the correct leverage.

Devinci Wilson Carbon rear suspension

The production Wilson Carbon, pictured above, features a different shock position, 26'' wheels, and sees the shock connected directly to the Control Link



The other detail to notice is the bike's aluminum construction, something that isn't a surprise given that Nick's machine is clearly still in the prototype stage and may see changes before Devinci invests in what it takes to build it out of carbon fiber. It's not just the front triangle that uses aluminum, though, with the swing arm also being made from the same material. This definitely hints at completely different geometry compared to the 26" wheeled bike, with the slightly larger wheels requiring a different set up numbers to see the bike handle well. It's also easy to spot the difference in the seat mast area, with Nick's bike featuring a completely different shape to it.

bigquotesWe are always testing and developing bikes closely between our R&D department, test riders and DGR. Of the many bikes which are ridden and tested not all make it to production or see the showroom floor. Some of these bikes transform into other bikes, some are used to push limits. At this stage in the game we are working on lots of exciting projects which we hope see the light of day one day, as for the bike Nick was pictured with, this is a DGR development project and has no release date or production timeline. With the luxury of having the DGR racers we have, we are constantly experimenting with DH projects to help our riders rise above the competition. Of these projects most will never see production. - Gabe Fox, Marking Manager, Devinci

Will we see the Devinci Global Racing team aboard the 650B wheeled bike during the 2014 World Cup season? We'd guess that is very likely, with both Smith and Beer putting in some pre-season testing aboard the bike before the series kicks off in Pietermaritzburg, South Africa, in early April.

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134 Comments
  • 357 1
 Looks like Sony's on the 650b boat, gotta get my 26" TV while I can!
  • 12 1
 haha nice one
  • 56 21
 If 27.5 is known as 650b why is everyone saying 29er when there 700c ? Is 26 600a ? If theres anything to become standard out of all this please let it be the name and just called it 27.5 and not 650b were not french and we don't want to be haha
  • 33 65
flag deeeight (Feb 23, 2014 at 3:19) (Below Threshold)
 The 27.5 / 29er crap is purely american in original. The pioneers of the 29er (as in actually calling them that) were americans trying to explain how big the inflated tires were to be (everyone else would have been fine with 700c x 51 and just understood intuitively that it was gonna be a bigger tire and not needed to know precisely how big). 27.5 followed the same as explaining how 650B with a 2.3 width tire fell in between 26 and 29. In reality it was 27.55 for that particular tire and for some its as small as 27.2 and as large as 28.2 so far. Which is why its dumb to call it 27.5 simply to appeal to ignorant buyers.
  • 17 121
flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 23, 2014 at 4:18) (Below Threshold)
 So has Nick Beer enlarged his Wilson? By the way: Go Swedeeen!
  • 60 8
 Sorry, I have no choice but to negative prop you!
  • 20 29
flag beanandcheeseburrito (Feb 23, 2014 at 5:56) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah man I had to neg prop you too. You're pretty jerky on this thing all too often including here. Lighten up man and go ride whatever wheel size you want.
  • 61 3
 Deeeight - what do europeans (or any one using the metric system) call 26" wheels? Royal with cheese?
  • 33 3
 Go Sweden? The Canadian women could have beaten them!
  • 23 5
 i was trying to think of something witty to say about the constant argument of wheel size. while typing i realized there is no smart comment to make, only the obvious, why do we as people feel the need to argue, criticize, and troll about the advancements of our sport? through my eyes i see an industry expanding to more people and more places throughout the world, all the influx of new wheelsizes have created a new opportunity for everyone. more people are selling bikes to buy new 650b or 29"ers, leaving the 26" used bike market more affordable for begginners or someone who just wants to upgrade. fat bikes are relatively new to the public as well making snow riding wayy more fun, i dont see this many people knocking on them. just because a 650b or 29"er isnt right for you doesnt mean its not right for someone else, and it doesnt mean you cant benefit from it. the more people in this world ride bicycles, the better i feel about the future direction of human existance. when your out on the trail and you come across a 650b chances are your not gonna talk crap, your gonna ride with the guy and get his honest opinion on the topic. this turned into way more of a preach than i was going for, would now be a good time to ask when someones gonna make a 29er fat bike?!?!
  • 7 43
flag Jimmy0 FL (Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43) (Below Threshold)
 Please shut up. And you would ride a fat bike
  • 32 5
 its people like you that make this world a hostile environment for youthful generations. id like to see you have the same pair of balls to my face you narrowsighted cave man.
  • 6 1
 This comment made my day.
  • 7 5
 Nick Beer
  • 8 1
 I saw a poll that said the most used handlebar width on Pinkbike was something like 800mm. I think about 50-60% of PB userbase is gravity oriented. I'm sure if you went to some XC racing site, people would be embracing 29er and 650b.
  • 3 1
 @thepwnstar39 26 is obsolete in the XC world. Where I live is 90% XC oriented and is a pain in the ass to get anything for my 26er trail bike, I usually have to order... @Whitebullit balls on your face? Lol
  • 6 1
 sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
  • 12 2
 THIS HORSE IS DEAD ! stop flogging it, don't waste your time. Different sizes exist, as do different shock lengths. Make your pick, enjoy your choice and STFU !
  • 4 4
 everybody listen to this man ^^, he speaks the truth
  • 2 6
flag fiberglassguy27 (Feb 23, 2014 at 16:22) (Below Threshold)
 15 years ago everyone was running 15"-16" wheels on their cars and now everyone has at least dubs on their shit ! They make this shit because we WILL buy it! And somewhere in the near future, everyone will be clowning the dude who shows up on the old school 26er! Hahahaha can't wait for it! It's comming like it or not!
  • 2 2
 @whitebullit

29er fatbikes do exist, they're calling them 29plus. Surly krampus is the first one that comes to mind.
  • 4 1
 In uk we use old n new money so we call them 26 inch wheels don't forget who's language and volume systems uve been corrupting over the years american
  • 3 3
 mattibart, be careful, without us, you'd be corrupting German.
  • 1 0
 29 plus is a marketing term created by surly just like they've now created 26 plus to generate interest in their tires, wheels and frames.
  • 1 0
 Or the Russians don't know which is better or worse nowadays with your snoopin nsa anyway imperial English measurements metric European lets face it bigger wheels roll better n go over stuff easier but heighten centre of gravity smaller better in whoops and tight stuff different people value each pro or con to their own spec but larger wheels all round better for xc but probe 27 ish is large enuf for dh fride n trail like comparing wheelbase really also
  • 2 0
 Whoa…put the coffee down for a minute. Does not using any punctuation count as corrupting a language? Never mind being coherent...
If you have a larger wheel and keep the BB height the same, it is lower relative to the axels and does not heighten the center of gravity. It actually is more stable, which is why 29ers are so stable at speed.
  • 1 1
 Not really the centrifugal force is higher up on both wheels plus lowering the bottom bracket plays into the hands of my comments about larger wheels for xc and smaller for downhill etc and this ain't no English exam also first and foremost id like to thank the raf secondly the genius that was Churchill and America was bribed into the war with British tech also bletchley park without that Intelligence all the American industrial might wouldn't have meant a thing in Europe or the pacific
  • 4 0
 The time of PB engineers is over. Wheel size debate has given birth to the new breed: the PB physicists. No hard feeling to anyone in particular, just general observation.
  • 1 2
 Yes fairplay wot are we like we've all got our possies an negs jus like our beloved wheelsizes enjoy your wheels people i guess the debate is for ourselves jus make sure u spend ure hard earned money on wot u want or think is best not based on sum one else
  • 1 2
 Soz for gettin all riled but the cheeseburger comment touched a nerve i guess if we rode as much as we talked shite we would be gee Atherton or john cowan lol
  • 2 2
 What about pinkbike historian aswell a double first
  • 41 3
 When i started riding we only just Had v brakes and people were skeptical. When discs arrived people slated them and said they were over kill and weren't needed.
Most bikes were rigid and people said 2inch of travel was enough.
A year later gt came out with the sts dh with 100mm of travel and people thought it was excessive.
Now even kids bikes have disc brakes, trail bikes have 7 inches of travel and still pedal.
Dh bikes are long and low and have double the travel.
You cant buy a 4 or 6 inch travel dh bike these days.
Is that a problem? No because 8 inch dh bikes have evolved to be fast as hell, planted and still pedal when you need to smash some cranks in on the straights. Wheel size will be the same. When 650b is the smallest available and is faster, people will be amped because they are travelling faster. The speed will translate to fun and people will just accept it like all the other stuff they scoffed at
  • 13 2
 I actually wouldn't mind riding v brakes and no suspension. As long as you are having fun on your bike everything is alright.
  • 15 0
 I can't believe how ungerman you were right now...
  • 5 14
flag jordache-keepers (Feb 23, 2014 at 8:30) (Below Threshold)
 The death of the 29er is approaching. And its approaching fast.
  • 5 2
 Silly rocky urban, if you believe that I dare not wonder what else you believe in.
  • 4 2
 Probably a creationist hahaha.
  • 1 0
 aidy, I am in full agreement with you. My comment was based on the same things you said, except I may have been a little more hash about the topic. Anyway, I just think it's funny how the same people who are fighting all of these new innovations all want the exactly opposite of what they argue, and that is more speed and performance. How do we achieve this without exploration and experimentation?
  • 43 18
 Who else is bothered by the fact that 650B is just right in the middle of 26 inch and 29 inch wheels? If they are really trying to make the best wheel size shouldn't they take what they know and apply it to make the perfect wheel size through engineering not just someone having the bright idea " there is a 26 inch wheel and a 29 inch wheel the best size must be right in the middle".....
  • 47 6
 This makes so much sense. But I almost disagree with it because in a way it encourages a fourth wheel size.
  • 43 5
 Except it's not actually right in the middle, it's closer to 26". According to Bike Radar, 650b is 25mm larger in diameter than 26" and 38mm smaller than 700c/29ers. Google it for the source, I don't think you're allowed to post links here.
  • 4 3
 Hahaha I think that would cause to much of a ruckus.
  • 4 3
 Then they will realise that having a fourth wheel size is old and say having different wheels sizes on the same bike helps increase your speed, traction and froth factor by 117%
  • 13 6
 650b is as big is it should get for a downhill bike.... lets keep it like that
  • 4 29
flag Davidsym FL (Feb 22, 2014 at 22:43) (Below Threshold)
 aceospades1250 is right. Although also called 27.5 it is acctually exactly 27.5 inches.
  • 11 0
 A fourth wheel size will provoke unprecedented levels of internet forum wrath, and attract thousands of disgruntled trolls to Pinkbike and other similar forums, where they will encounter new streams of advertising, which will aid in the spread of the new wheel size. You're all falling into a trap.
  • 9 0
 Put a 26" bike up to a friends 650b and there was literally 11mm difference in diameter with the 650b wheel only having a 0.2" smaller dia' tyre (2.1/2.3"). Really not much in it!
  • 22 5
 pretty sure its just marketing now
  • 3 10
flag mfbeast12 (Feb 22, 2014 at 23:37) (Below Threshold)
 aceospades1250 you can post whatever you want, don't know where you're getting that from haha
  • 10 2
 @superxi6- I'm not bothered at all. If thats what rattles you in life...first world problems. Just pick your bike, ride it, and have fun. I mean really why the hell would you care? I think somewhere we forgot that its biking It's recreational, ie fun. All PB users talk about now is now is b*tch,b*tch,b*tch, marketing this, wheel size that. Why not be constructive instead of complain. I for one am grateful for an industry that is progressive and keeps innovating new ideas. I have a 27.5 and have spent time on 29's, had several 26" bikes and you know what I learned, riding bikes is fun. If it really bother's you, sack up and go produce something.
  • 5 2
 Thats the thing, there not exactly inbetween 26" and 29"! its all marketing! 27.5" is actually in-between. 650B is all marketing
  • 5 2
 2 years ago I helped a college student make some fixtures and testing equipment to find what is the best overall wheel size. With variables that incorporated both xc and downhill and a bunch of data he concluded that a wheel size of 26.6 is the best all around wheel size. Obviously 29 was better for xc type objectives. And yes tire size was all calculated in as a factor.
  • 8 1
 mfbeast12...I can't say too much because you're 14, so I don't think you have developed your critical or logical thinking skills yet, but aceospades is right. The numbers in 650B refer the the nominal outside diameter of the tire the rim was designed for. 26" rims have a diameter of 559mm. 650B rims are 584mm, and 29"/700C rims are 622mm. That means the difference between 26" and 650B is 25mm. The difference between 650B and 29" is 38mm. 27.5" is just a generic term to describe a wheel size that is in between 26" and 29", not literally 27.5".
  • 5 0
 Although science can prove a lot… it is also rider feel, confidence and mental state - if a rider is confident on say a 27.5er for xc and not on a 29er then they should go for the 27.5. Riding can have science applied to it but after all it is the rider that completes the bicycle and having the correct mental state/feel will make a greater rider over one who isn't confident or just doesn't like the wheel size. In the end, just ride your bike and be happy.
  • 8 15
flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 23, 2014 at 5:34) (Below Threshold)
 Science can prove a lot, yes, like render obsolete lots of older scientific research Smile
  • 3 2
 It's all marketing!!!
If it was marketing, would the defending WC champion move to a wheel-size that was slower? It's not like he had a huge lead over 2nd place where he could afford a disadvantage?
The next thing I am waiting to hear is 650b is wrong because it's not in the Bible.

@ ctd07 - why don't you try that experiment again, with the same tire. not exactly science your doing over there...
  • 4 1
 @Erikthefatty...you do understand that 29" is also just a generic term to describe a 700C wheel with a wide tire right? And that 26" is just a generic term for a 559mm rim with a wide tire.
  • 3 0
 just clarifying- when I said I didn't know where he was "getting that from," I was not referring to aceospades' argument about rim diameter, I am referring to what he said about posting links, sorry for the confusion!
  • 3 1
 The car industry throws boatloads of engineers at cars, yet they have wheel sizes that are all over the map.

Why don't all performance cars use the same size wheels?

things that make you go hmmmm...
  • 6 1
 I've ridden all three wheel sizes and found that they all have their own strengths and weaknesses. I don't understand why people get so crazy about this whole wheel size thing. I guess if you're trying to attack companies or an industry for using a new standard to generate more revenue and you think that marketing something is evil then perhaps you have larger problems on your mind then just wheel sizes. The rest of us mountain bikers, those who just ride our fucken bikes and enjoy it, should ignore the internet trolls and stick to trying things for ourselves. You should keep in mind that wheel size is just one factor of how a bike 'feels' and performs. I've ridden 29ers that feel like I'm riding wagon wheels and I've ridden 29ers that feel like 26ers in a way. Look at the big picture, don't just focus on the details.
  • 3 0
 So let me get this straight.. The 650 b is only 25 mm or 1" larger in diameter than a 26" wheel. That's only 1/2" difference in radius which means the difference at which the tire hits the ground is only 1/4 " greater than a 26" wheel ( less than the thickness of your pinky finger). How exactly is this such a great improvement?
  • 1 0
 BeerguzlinFool- It is not which is why we all go fucking nuts on this subject. The syncophants rattle on about how we all should just go on with our lives while Rome burns and the mfg's leave us hanging for no good godamn reason other than they want to maximize their ROI and kill off the other wheel sizes. Today 26 is declared dead. I guarantee 29 is next.
  • 1 2
 In a sport where seconds matter... a tire diameter change that makes you even 1/60th faster... equals a worthwhile change when over 4 minutes of racing, that's 4 seconds. Until everyone adopts it, its going to mean the early converts get an advantage over the hold outs. In XC racing 1/60th means minutes when since races are a couple hours long.
  • 3 0
 deeeight - since when are you fighting for seconds to care?
  • 1 0
 @BEER

What does "the difference at which the tire hits the ground is only 1/4 greater" mean?

What exactly are you measuring?
  • 2 1
 Apparently his pinky... or whatever his girlfriend calls it.
  • 1 0
 Ha! Pseudo science! Quackery!
  • 1 0
 Oh! It just struck me. Contact patch area. Tires with the same sidewall stiffness and air pressure will have the same contact area, regardless of wheel diameter. However, the contact patch will be longer and narrower on bigger wheels.
  • 1 0
 Actually besides getting longer the actual contact patch does increase in size, just not as much as people want to believe. The difference between a 26er and a 29er of equal width is only about 5%. Which is why most folks who can't afford a fat bike, but already own a 26er and a 29er will choose the 29er for snow riding unless the 26er allows massively wider (but still not fat width) tires. In the game of floatation every little bit helps.
  • 5 0
 when Moses came down the mountain, he was on a 26er
  • 1 1
 That's because someone else took the 29er and the 650B before he got to the bike rack.
  • 1 0
 Hllclmbr. I was referring to the angle of contact due to the difference in radius.
  • 1 0
 @deeight how in the world did you become a mod? talking about the size of someones johnson is not exactly the behaviour you would expect to see from someone who we should look up to as a leader of pink bike. Just saying….
  • 1 0
 Well at the time it was because of how active I posted, my tenure here (12 years now), my tenure on the internet as far as bicycle discussion forums sites and newsgroups (since 1994) and that they didn't have anyone else who had the time to waste dealing with idiots especially all the scams that fill up the buysell forum each days. Mods are volunteers.. they aren't paid, they don't get free schwag, and they all have lives outside this site.
  • 1 0
 good to know… one day ill be just like you hahaha
  • 19 2
 Just when I though Stevie couldn't get any faster.
  • 18 3
 Maybe he could use a square wheel to make it a little more even for everyone...
  • 5 1
 I agree… but his 650b at RSA World Champs isn't the best omen… then again he doesn't have to rely on luck like us mere mortals.
  • 10 3
 I like what some companies are doing big wheels big burly bikes, but someone hit the nail on the head recently and mentioned that DH is becoming a bit of a joke with its trend towards none DH bikes and courses not being as aggressive as they should be. The UCI banned Skinsuits because they didn't look good for the sport (even thou the worlds best were wearing them and one of those sporting it was on the board that helped get it banned), surly this has the exact same feeling it does to me!?!. If I win lotto this week im starting my own team and doing a breakaway world cup series that includes Champery, Fort Bill, Vallnord, Val Di Sole, Mont-Sainte-Anne, Nevegal, and so on where these shorter travel big wheels bikes are not welcome.
  • 4 1
 It's really just a testament to how capable these current trail bikes are. Nothing more, nothing less. Just innovation.
  • 1 0
 Graves- World champs. enough said.
  • 1 0
 Hell yeah downhills turning into an elevated skate park soon you'll b able to compete on your roller blades or skateboard wat u want is a natural style more orientated to mountain goats
  • 6 0
 Now that we have everything else sorted out, I think riders are really pining for a press-fit handlebar grips - of course once worn out these would render your bars useless. Good news though - 2% conceptual increase in comfort to stiffness profiles. A MUST for enduro.
  • 1 0
 How about bars with different end diameters so that Enduro riders can tailor their bar choice to match their Enduro specific hand sizes!?
  • 1 0
 or spd gloves/grips? may increase climbing efficiency by 0.004%
  • 5 0
 I think the worlds gone mad every one always comparing ! Sick of hereing on trails comparing wheels when they should be focusing on giving it the beans ! Haha I'm just remembering the old days when some one rocked up on a 24 rear !
  • 5 0
 Here we go again-another wheel size debate..........I have said it before and I will say it again-watch and wait because sooner or later we will have bigger front wheels and smaller rear wheels-on the same bike. That Adrian Martin from that great vid "130 steps" was on to something with his 24 inch wheel and a 26 inch front wheel.Bomb proof rear with another inch or two of travel and a bigger front wheel to roll over roots and shit. I'm no frame builder but the shorter chainstays will allow a slacker head angle.....not sure what would happen to bottom bracket being lower or if that it is desirable. I note chain reaction has a few 24 inch wheels going cheap......interested to see what the boffins out there think. Why do we need two wheels the same diameter anyway......just saying.
  • 1 0
 Wasn't that done 10-12 years ago on the first big hit? Can't be too many advantages buddy or the big S would have kept it on their other designs moving forward
  • 3 0
 Seems like a great idea to me. Anyways all the guys saying 27.5 offers no advantage for dh are nuts. I don't think it's a big difference but simply being able to drop the BB 25mm in relation to axle height while keeping the same ground clearance is going to offer some improvement in handling. Probably won't make much difference for weekend warriors like myself and I could really care less, but if the world cup racing elite feel that it makes them faster why should it matter to us anyways. Worst thing that could happen is we end up with faster bikes some day.
  • 3 0
 I'm pretty sure builders can make whatever head angle they want regardless of chainstay length.
I owned a 24/26 Big Hit DH back in the day. I often got the sensation of the 24" wheel maxing out at terminal velocity, like it just couldn't go any faster. It was a weird feeling I never got on dual 26" DH bikes. Mind you, this was only on open fireroad sections of the bike park and didn't really come up when riding trails/jumps/berms/features.

I've got a 650b DH bike on the way so we'll see what happens. It might be that 26/650b is the perfect combination.
  • 3 0
 I like riding different wheels on the same bike. I've run 24x3 rear with a 26x2.5 on the front and am currently running a 650bx2.35 front with a 2.35x26 rear. I think both setups have their pros and cons.
  • 6 2
 I really do not like the fact that all these company's are coming out with 650b bikes.. 26 offers a fun and playful platform that needs to stick around.. when the day comes that all downhill bikes are 650b! there will be no advantage's.
  • 3 0
 I bet if they make a fourth wheelsize it would be even more enduraaaahh than 650b, which is quite enduraaahh. I'm soon trading in my Banshee Paradox (29'ers are so gay, let the flaming begin) for a 650B hardtail, more playful yet still carrying the wagonwheel momentum. I'm from a country without mountains, so the momentum gain in bigger wheels gives more speed, more speed reminds me of whistler i.e. having fun. Maybe one day, we'll all end up on 26" inch wheels again, we are like young teenagers experimenting with small, medium and large wheels.
Try out only doing it missionary style, and see how you like it.
  • 4 0
 I only care about my bike because that's the one I have access to, not yours and certainly not a pro's. What makes you think that I care about the wheelsize of your bike?

I ride MY bike for me.
  • 5 0
 Look like an old Sunn Rad...
  • 5 0
 look like sunn radical Smile
  • 1 0
 Hey don't we all like a debate / argument at the mo i got a Kona dawg,Kona kula and a keewee chromozone they all roll on 26/royal with cheese wheels depending on wot tyres there runnin and i tell you wot any of them will get me down the pub tonite and in style i must admit a foutth bike is on the cards and in likin the look of 27.5 all mountain/trail and in pretty sure that will get me to the pub too comin home while that's another story
  • 4 0
 dont want to jinx his luck, but please dont pull a south africa this time around ?
  • 2 0
 You know he may not make it to south africa after injuring himself yesterday in NZ and flying home for apparent surgery
  • 3 2
 Am I the only one who would like smaller size wheels? I would like 24", but seems rare now. Smaller tires are so fun and so maneuverable. Big might be fast, but are sloppy and aesthetically not attractive (my opinion). When I watch 26" dj bikes in park and street it does not looks smooth like bmx, because of the bigger tires...
Makes sense if you are a big guy and have an xl or xxl frame to have 29er.

24" mtb wheels please! SO FUN and looks good. Every bump is fun. Smile
  • 1 0
 I hate that I just bought a brand new 2014 bike and now it is outdated just because next years model will only be offered in 650b. It happened last year too when I bought a intense 951. I've ridden some 27.5s and they just aren't as playful so I'll stick with the 26" bikes.
  • 4 1
 Hopefully they aren't too shy about showing off this bike as Sony clearly will want to get their money's worth.
  • 2 0
 for those of you still on about the size issue, you clearly haven't seen this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYt6IqaHk_Q
36er4lyfe!! hahaha
  • 3 1
 So... is this where everyone starts to love 650b because Devinci Global Racing i.e. (Stevie Smith, and NIck Beer) will be racing on them?
  • 2 0
 Do you guys ever get tired of talking about wheel size? Just go ride. Nothing original has been said in months on the issue.
  • 2 0
 The DW virtual pivot of the old Wilson now seems to be a very complex single pivot in 27.5, time to search for an old frame for me ( dream bike)
  • 1 0
 As far as DW goes, Wilson has always been split pivot, which is actuated single pivot with floating brake. I think only the Phoenix has rocked the DW Link in recent years on DH bike, though perhaps there's a Turner too
  • 3 0
 this is same shit what sunn radical was!!!!
  • 2 1
 Is Nz like the place for 650b because everyone is coming out with them here khs, tre, and now devinci? is it like the sea otter of dh?
  • 5 0
 Alot of things from Ski's in the winter to bikes and cars get tested (and teams train) in the southern hemisphere because of the seasonal flip - it means the companies can do earlier testing and potentially be ahead a year on their testing and subsequent launch....... In the mountaineering & hiking retail game where i worked many moons ago we used to even get the finished new product seasons before the northerner's. ( and sometimes a year late) ......................that and the place is ...." not bad" Wink
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 Thanks!
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 Nukeproof also made a 27.5 Pulse for sam hill
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 shock design looks pretty much like a sunn radical... very nice by the way
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 Will be this year any prototype of a downhill bike without 650b wheels?! ...I´m gettin scared
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 Hey... pendant que vous tchatchez à vous demander quelle taille de roue utiliser... moi je suis déjà arrivé en-bas avec mon klunker...
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 NEWSFLASH 650B EASTON HAVOCS
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 Choose your wheel size and be a dick about it...
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 Would have clear the gap at ease with 26.
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 Pretty sure he was on a 26" when he cased the gap
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 Is it only me, or does this bike really use a shorter shock??? :O
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 I guess they'll ride in PMB the protos they had ridden there for Worlds. My bet.
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 not a big fan of 650b, but I like where Devinci is going!
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 hahaahhaha id ask dave garland about wheel sizes and bmxers
@dee eight
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 Awh yes the time of year again when pinkbike has DH newsSmile
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 Meh I just get on my bike regardless of wheel size
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 The governemnt wants our money thats the reason for all of this
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 650B-soon in BMX too. Really,stop this shit. I will like more new bikes/geometries and not bigger wheel sizes.
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 BMX riders wouldn't care about a new wheel size the slightest compared to the OMG sky is falling crap that happens here. BMX bikes start out at 12" wheels and you keep going up in size with age/class. There's five sizes accepted for BMX racing.
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 It's aluminum?
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 I have a picture of Stevie's full bike
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 lets see it
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 No, just NO
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 If steve rode a 26in he never broke his ankle. 26 for ever







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