Giant Reign 1 Review

Jun 4, 2012
by Richard Cunningham  
BY Richard Cunningham
Chris Powell smokes the chatter section at Ted Williams aboard the Giant. Powell claimed that, when pointed straight down the mountain, the bike could do no wrong. Ian Hylands photo

Giant’s Reign probably predates the term, ‘All-Mountain’ and when it was launched, it took a while for enthusiasts to understand why anyone would want a long-travel bike that was too heavy for cross-country and not quite muscular enough to qualify as a gravity sled. Today, however, the six-inch-travel Reign’s capable handling and technically-oriented geometry seems mainstream, and it has become popular among Super D and Enduro racers.

Pinkbike All Mountain Bike Shoot Out
  Giant Reign 1 Highlights:
-Frame: Hydro-formed aluminum tubes, tapered head tube, six inch travel, Maestro dual-link suspension.
-Fork:150mm stroke, RockShox Revelation RL Dual-Air, 15mm Maxle QR through-axle
-Shock:RockShox Monarch RT
-Shimano SLX three by ten drivetrain
-Sizes: Small, Medium, Large, X-Large
-Weight: 28.95 pounds (med)
-MSRP: $3000 USD
Ian Hylands photo

Our test bike is the $3000 Reign 1, which is surprisingly well appointed, with a dropper seatpost, a Shimano SLX drivetrain, and a RockShox Revelation RL Dual-Air fork and Monarch RT shock. Surprisingly, the mid-priced Reign 1’s shopping list doesn’t erode into the quality of its Maestro suspension frame. Giant produces its own tubes, from raw aluminum to the butted and shaped final product that Giant uses to construct the frame. ‘Vertical manufacturing’ allows Giant to throw the works into its more affordable models. The Reign 1 uses the same frame as the $4000 Reign 0, which helps keep the bike’s weight down to 28.95 pounds (13.16kg). The Reign 1 is offered in small, medium (tested), large and X-large sizes, and in red, orange or black colors.

Construction Notes

Giant’s factory takes great pride in its ability to hydroform aluminum tubing into wild shapes and there is not one straight tube in the Reign 1’s frame. The top and down tubes have sweeping bends and semi-rectangular profiles, and that theme is reflected in the rear suspension where the rectangular seat and chainstays are squeezed, looped and tapered to fit around 2.34-inch tires and to miss the spinning crank arms. The seat tube is bulged to brace the upper rocker link pivot and then bent to catch the Shimano direct-mount front derailleur.

Giant’s attention to detail goes beyond bend and bulges. The lower link of its Maestro suspension is offset to the left to provide a wider stance for the pivot bearings and thus, added stiffness in the rear. Nice-looking machined aluminum caps protect the pivot bearings on the linkage. Giant chose Shimano’s threadless, PressFit bottom bracket system, which provides for a wider shell and stiffer down tube. There are no chain-guide tabs on the bottom bracket shell. Cable routing is designed to be functional, with every hose and housing directed inside the front triangle where they are protected from brush-strikes and severe impacts, and guides for a dropper post are standard. The Reign’s standard rear dropouts predate the popularity of through-axles (Giant says a through-axle and ISCG tabs are planned for 2013).

Giant Reign 1 Geometry

Giant Reign 1geometry

Component Check

Giant’s Reign 1 featured the most complete component package of the five bikes in this series. The highlight is its Contact Switch R dropper seatpost – a must for anyone who wants to get the most from an all-mountain bike. The cockpit was filled out with Giant’s ‘Connect’ house-brand parts, with a 70mm stem 670mm x 19mm riser bar and lock-on grips. The 3 x 10 drivetrain was all Shimano SLX – which has been earning high marks worldwide. The wheels are laced up to DT Swiss E540 rims and roll on 2.35-inch Maxxis High Roller (R) and Minnion (F) tires. Stopping power was provided by Avid Elixir 5 disc brakes with a 180mm front and a 160mm rear rotor.

Rockshox fork Giant dropper post Maestro suspension
  Three home runs: RockShox suspension - the 150mm-travel Revelation RL fork and its counterpart, the Monarch RT shock can both be tuned to suit almost any riding style - and the Contact Switch R dropper seat post is a rare find at the $3000 price level. Ian Hylands photo

Suspension, as mentioned earlier, was top notch, with a 150-millimeter-stroke RockShox Revelation RL fork and Monarch RT shock that is outfitted with a high-volume air can. The fork’s dual-air function allows the user to fine tune the fork’s small-bump sensitivity by altering the pressure in its negative air spring. Up top, index detents in the ‘Motion Control’ compression/lockout dial allow on-trail tuning – riders can use the function to dial out brake dive on steep descents, or to soften up the fork to smooth out chatter bumps. The blue Motion Control function is moderated by the gold 'Flood Gate' dial which adjusts the blow-off threshold at full lockout and determines how much pedaling platform is available. The Monarch RT shock has a simpler floodgate dial to tune in more or less pedaling firmness the rear. The takeaway from the Reign 1’s suspension is that Giant chose a top-drawer fork and shock – both with multiple tuning options, which is a major plus for an experienced rider on a budget.

Giant Reign 1 Trail Test

Giant’s Maestro suspension can be run wide open, without the use of platform damping aids, and it will pedal quite firmly and still manage to suck up a lot of punishment. The fact that both fork and shock have platform functions was icing on the cake for the few times we faced an excruciating climb or road section. Setting up the Giant was quite easy, as the suspension is not super-sensitive to sag or damping adjustments. Rolling out, the Reign 1 feels smooth and grounded, with efficient pedaling action and the bike’s long-ish wheelbase, sticky Maxxis tires and dropper post make short work of steep descents and drops. Stay within the Reign’s comfort zone and it rides like it has an autopilot.

Pedaling/Acceleration: Everyone agreed that the Reign 1 was a good pedaler and when it was up to speed, maintaining that momentum was relatively easy. Acceleration was not snappy, but the bike really got out of corners well, as it can get going equally well from a seated or standing position and the transition out of the saddle feels seamless. No test rider used the Motion Control option for trail riding or downhill because the Maestro suspension, although it remained active over the bumps, did not hinder pedaling enough to warrant sacrificing full-time suspension performance. That said; Giant’s tire choice and smooth suspension action made for a slower rolling bike on asphalt. Yes, platform for the road, please.

Climbing: At 28 pounds and some change, the Reign weighs in on the lightweight end of the all-mountain spectrum, so it feels pretty good on the climbs. Its triple crankset has low enough gearing to grunt up steeps as long as traction is available, and that means you won’t have many excuses to push, because the Maxxis High Roller rear tire can find traction almost anywhere. Technical climbs are facilitated by the active feeling Maestro suspension, which manages to roll effortlessly over bothersome steps and roots, so the rider can concentrate on laying down power instead of dancing around the bike, trying to out-smart dirt.

Ken Wood rides a Giant Reign during the Pinkbike All Mountain Bike Shoot Out
  Ken Wood lands the Giant Reign 1 on point at Ted Williams. The Giant's extra length and more cross-country feel required a little more timing over larger jumps. Ian Hylands photo

Technical Handling: The Reign 1 feels more like a super-capable XC machine and less capable as a downhill bike when pushed beyond a certain point. All hail the dropper post – which gave us the confidence to roll into sketchy sections, often unseen. When pointed in a straight line, it can speed down some truly hairy stuff, but its tail end gets a bit flexible when the bike is pressed hard through a tight banked corner, or when landing slightly crossed up. Some riders attributed the flex to the Reign’s lack of a through-axle. The wheels remained tight and true and we tested tire pressures up to 40psi, so their observations may be correct. Where the Giant put in a stellar show was at speed through chattery rocks. Corner after corner on the descent of the AM/trail loop, the stable chassis and smooth suspension kept the Reign glued and hooked up where other bikes were bouncing and sliding around.

Downhill: On the DH course, the Giant got the job done, but not without some effort on the rider’s part. The highlight of its descending was that, in banked or arcing turns, the Reign always felt like we could have entered with more speed. Rounding tight left-right-left type sections, the long feeling wheelbase required riders to over correct to get the bike around quickly. Most felt that the rear suspension pushed through its travel too quickly over the bigger bumps – which could have been solved with a couple of clicks on the Flood Gate dial at the expense of some small-bump harshness. The bottom line was that the Reign did not shy from anything large or small on the DH course, but landing the larger jumps and pushing it around high-G turns required a level of commitment from the rider.

Ken Wood rides a Giant Reign during the Pinkbike All Mountain Bike Shoot Out
  Ken Wood at speed. A major advantage afforded by the Reign's Maestro rear suspension was its sensitivity when braking over rough ground. Ian Hylands photo

Suspension Action: The Reign felt like it settled towards the rear of the chassis when it was pushed hard, which may have been a product of the shock’s slow feeling rebound. Speeding up the shock’s rebound made the bike feel less stable, so we left it. When pressed to its maximum, the Giant rode smoothly over most bumps and bounces on the DH course, with a tendency to bottom the rear suspension during G-outs and some of the bigger hits.

On trail, the Reign’s suspension felt balanced and capable. Its composure over mid-sized bumps and chatter gave the impression that the bike was moving slower, when it was actually one or two gears faster than bikes we assumed to be speedier in the same sections. The rear end settles slightly while climbing steeps, and although we knew that dialing in the shock’s floodgate platform would address the settling and cause the shock to ride higher, we rarely remembered to do it.

Pinkbike All Mountain Bike Shoot Out
  Maxxis High Roller, Shimano SLX shifting, RockShox Monarch shock, intelligent cable routing - good. Triple crankset, with 30 overlapping gears - not so good. Less has proven to be more when gearing up for technical terrain. Ian Hylands photo

Component Report: The more we rode the Reign 1, the more we wished that every bike had a dropper seatpost. It allowed riders to erase the bike’s few limitations and enjoy riding almost any terrain. We all wished for wider handlebars – 670 millimeters was wide when the Reign was born, but something over 700mm would boost its handling and confidence at the DH side of its envelope. Oddly, Giant’s choice to use Avid Elixir 5 brakes, which are a couple of levels below other bikes in this series, was not an issue. Every rider liked the Giant’s performance under braking – partly due to the fact that the suspension kept the rear wheel on the ground while doing so – but the Reign’s stopping power never came into question. Extra love goes to Giant for spec’ing the two best tires to come from Maxxis – the Minion and High Roller. Oddly, Shimano’s SLX drivetrain is a PB favorite, but the 3 x 10’s overlapping gears did not play well in the more technical arena of an all-mountain bike. We get the fact that the Reign 1 must match the needs of a global market, but a low-geared 2 by 10 drivetrain would be a better match for the bike.

Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotesThere are two schools of all-mountain: The gravity-oriented rider who is searching for a mid-travel bike that is capable of climbing to downhill trails which are out of reach of a shuttle, and the XC/trail rider who wants a longer-travel bike to pump his technical game to the next level. Giant's Reign 1 is not enough bike to shred DH trails at the amplitude that many gravity riders attain. The mid-priced Reign is, however, an excellent choice for anyone who identifies with school number two. The Reign 1 earned the praise of our downhill test riders for its climbing, acceleration and handling on trail, and it scored high marks from trail riders for its ease of handling on technical descents - which was the Reign's intended purpose from the get-go. - RC

I checked out the test and I believe that Giant's Reign 1 could be a...

Five-Bike $3000 AM Tests:

1 - Cannondale Jekyll 4
2 - Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Comp
3 - Giant Reign 1
4 - Santa Cruz Butcher
5 - Norco Range 3

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  • 30 2
 anyone else laugh at the guys face in the first picture?
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 Looks like he just dumped a load.
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 hahaha i remember Smile
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 Chris Powell shreds. He's an accomplished pro Dual Slalom and 4X racer and is absolutely ice behind the handlebars on a DH course. RC
  • 8 0
 Doesn't change the fact his facial expression is amusing in the picture
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 He's nowhere near as funny as the hipster hillbilly further down. I was hoping he'd have a pipe mount or reading glass mount on the bike.
  • 14 2
 I own a Reign with exactly this geometry, but without dropper seat and with FOX suspension and I can say that it left me more than satisfied with the whole climbing-downhill-rolling efficiency pack. But the higher jumps do need some careful suspension trimming, often sacrificing comfort.
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 as a proud owner of a 2012 reign 2, (the cheapest model in the line), i got to say that the biggest and really only problem i have found with the bike, is that it can use up all the suspension wat to fast. on a 2 foot drop to flat, it will bottom out the shock, and if i raise the air pressure, then its a little to firm on the high speed bumps. but it climbs great, and for $2200, it is such a great deal, fox 32 fork, and a fox rp2 in the back.
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 I purchased a 2011 Giant Reign X2 last year and I have to say it was well worth it. It handles well on jumps, steep sections and in tight corners. Overall it is a great all round bike and can do pretty much anything you throw at it
  • 5 0
 To solve the problem of blowing through travel too quickly add an air volume changing shim to the rp32. Made loads of difference for me on the bigger jumps with out ruining the small bump compliance. In Canmore more there are plenty of rocks and roots to deal with but I still love to send the big jumps on it too. Great all around bike, but I did add wider bars and it's draw back in the tall front end on steep climbs. Front wheel can be a little vague unless your body position is on spot. Can be solved by changing stack height but it would benefit from a talas fork big time.
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flag Dmtb (Jun 4, 2012 at 19:48) (Below Threshold)
 @SeanTCampbell *CouBULLCRAPgh*
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 @lightningskull - i agree completely with you, i left mine completely stock, but i have to disagree about the vague front tire, the minion dh in the front is the greatest tire i have ever owned, it is the most stable cornering tire ever. i dont know what the 2011 came with.
  • 4 0
 Mine came with Kenda Nevegals, not so great. Changed them out for a big difference. Though I meant the tall front end on steep climbs gets vague because of geo, so a travel adjust fork would make the bike perfect.
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 @lightningskull I consider changing the tyres, mine also came with Nevegals, not so great, I agree. I'm thinking Schwalbe Muddy Mary. Could anyone tell me why wider bars would be a bad idea? I didn't get what you said about them. I generally want to upgrade my bike to be more Downhill-ish:P
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 wider bars are a problem in long steep climbs. when you pull on them, its not as stable to have your sholders so wide apart. thats why xc bikes generally have narrower bars - they do more climbing. my 2012 reign 2 came stock with 670 mm bars, and i have been happy with that set up. it depends on what you ride, if its a lot of down, and your willing to have a little more difficulty on the ups, then get the wider bars, they are alot more comfortable on the downs.
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 Hehe I did changed them after all, I got a great 800 mm Kore handlebar, and it did make it a little more difficult on the climbs, but the flexibility and agility it offers on the downhill made it worth the money. I suggest it, it's really comfortable, and it doesn't pretend you from pushing your body behind the saddle on difficult partsBig Grin
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 change* prevent*. Sorry:P
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 Zach Galifianakis returns for another bike test! Big Grin
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 or maybe it is ryan dunn?
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 too soon....
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 Not sure if you answer comments on these, but: how was the shock for the more aggressive riding? Obviously, you talked about it somewhat in the article, but what i'm really after is: If is was your bike, would you swap it out? I'm looking at another AM frame that carries it stock, and I'm a little worried about destroying it, since it seems to be more in the Trailbike/XC category looking at the RS website.
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flag CFOxtrot (Jun 4, 2012 at 9:12) (Below Threshold)
 What is "more aggressive riding"? How is "all mountain" automatically equal to "more aggressive riding"? By "aggressive" do you mean low-skills and plowing down a trail? Why are many of my riding buds on hardtail XC bikes quicker and smoother at technical descents than lots of folks on 6+6 travel $6k all-carbon wonderbikes?
  • 32 3
 Chill out CFO, who pissed on your cornflakes?
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flag SeanTCampbell (Jun 4, 2012 at 10:33) (Below Threshold)
 He speaks the truth. I can beat my friend down tech-nasty sections on my 130mm specialized stumpy while he's on a demo 8. Its all about line choice and control
  • 27 1
 Well yeah a better rider could take a piece of crap down a hill faster than me on a dh bike but that's not the point. groghunter wants a decent, fun all mountain bike and wants to know if the shock is any good. The response was inappropriate
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flag CFOxtrot (Jun 4, 2012 at 16:06) (Below Threshold)
 Nothing "inappropriate" about the response, dom. And nobody pissed in my cornflakes. And you're the one who seems angry!

Shocks don't care whether the rider calls himself "aggressive" and don't care whether the frame they are on is described by "journalists" as "aggressive" and they don't care if the trail you're on is one people may call "aggressive." The word "aggressive" doesn't connote anything magical about what a rear shock can handle. At all.

groghunter's "question" reads like a facebook post bragging to friends, like "I"m about to buy a bike but I am AGGRESSIVE" as if to suggest he needs something special in order to handle his massive "aggression."

Or maybe he's just not that good at communication.

I'd rather see pinkbike's discussion threads have a bit more wisdom in them, and a lot less bro-speak of latest industry cliches.

I'm pretty sure the review contains enough info to decide whether the Reign can handle groghunter's "aggressive" riding. Mainly because "aggressive" is an empty term.
  • 18 2
 Or you have an empty head, aggressive riding, a term which CFO does not understand.
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 Foxtrot--you pose some interesting questions. you imply that if we have more technical ability, we wouldn't need longer-travel bikes to cover our sloppy sins. maybe the wade simmons and thmas vanderham pb video backs up your ideas. I like the idea. Go w/ a lighter bike, up my technical game, and be faster on the ups and the downs.

at the very least, your propositions deserve some examination
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 @SeanTcampbell *CouBULLCRAPgh*
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 Did you ever think that maybe he IS actually just a fast riding, hard hitting rider? He wants a bike that WILL NOT BREAK, is that not ok?
  • 4 2
 True. And maybe he's fat.
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flag CFOxtrot (Jun 5, 2012 at 7:23) (Below Threshold)
 frijolemoreno -- that's exactly the point, and it gets obscured by marketing lingo, bro-speak, and "reviews" that are nothing more than sales fluff. There's no way someone describing himself as "aggressive" means anything. Compared to whom? Compared to what? Napoleon Dynamite was "aggressive" when he racked his balls doing that "sweet jump." Dig?

kjones -- okay, you "win" the e-rider contest by suggesting I'm not as good a rider as you, but I wonder how you'd fare in real life riding, and not hiding behind a keyboard. You consider yourself "aggressive," but what does that mean? That you break parts? That you crash hard? A good rider is easy on his bike and smooth on the trail even when hauling arse. You seem to think life is a Monster Energy image-fest. Go on, keep working on your e-rider profile!

ridenz -- what exactly is fast? what exactly is hard-hitting? compared to whom? compared to what? faster than you? big deal. harder hitting than me? big deal again. Is he actually a badly unfit 300 lbs person? Then he should go to his Giant Bikes dealer LBS and talk to them. What does he think RC can discern from a simple statement on the internet? It's like playing e-doctor with an internet "diagnosis" based on someone saying "my ankle hurts, what did I do?" Stupid, really.

Seems to me that you folks are using "aggressive" as a way to feel better about the status of "low skills, breaks parts, destroys bikes." In my world that spells HACK and not "aggressive."
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 ^Only part of that I enjoyed was the Napoleon Dynamite reference. Please, stop the competetiveness. Self deprecation is a much surer way to win an argument. As for 'agressiveness', watch the Val de Sol replay on pinkbike and compare the riding styles of Minaar and Hill. One is smooth, one is what I'd call agressive, both are very very fast. One probably breaks more parts than the other. Everyone has that riding buddy who just breaks things all the time. It's not industry bullshit or bro-speak (both of which I also hate), it's just a style
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flag CFOxtrot (Jun 5, 2012 at 11:07) (Below Threshold)
 Aggressive is not a style. It is a mindset! You may use the term as a shorthand to describe what you envision as aggression-in-practice, but that doesn't mean the word is properly used there. Aggression describes a quality of living beings. Therefore it's wrong to use it to describe a trail, a bike, a bike part, or a bike's geometry. None of those things can be aggressive because they are all inanimate objects.

I'm not competing with anyone in this thread and I'd ask you to stop projecting how YOU imagine I'm feeling or thinking. You're projecting inaccurately.

Go back to grog's first question, the one that prompted my first set of questions. How in Hades can describing one's self as "aggressive" --without any other information-- help someone recommend a bike? I know people whose pedaling power on climbs is impressive and looks "aggressive" to me. Do they need a burlier rear shock? What about someone who rides very actively but also is very smooth? If you asked the rider he'd say he feels "aggressive" but when you watch him ride he's smooth. Does he need a burlier shock?

There's no wisdom in this bro-speak crap of calling all sorts of things "aggressive". Dom, THAT is where the competition is! Men fluffing up their plumage to feel like powerful little birds in their mating displays.

"I'm an AGGRESSIVE rider! What should I get, RC?"

Nice plumage.

To answer grog's question, I'd ask "What makes you qualify with "aggressive" and what does that mean? Why are you focused on the rear shock handling "aggressive" riding? What are you looking for? What do you see in the Reign that makes you question its fitness for your intended riding?"
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 He's saying his riding style is not friendly to components. It's just communication. I understood it, you understood it. No-one's answered it. End ex
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 Foxtrot--you write brilliantly; you think critically; you're anti-big-hit bikes, and you're fast. I deduce that your ride a 29er.

...but I can't figure out how your PMS fits into the picture...prolly doesn't work well w/ lycra shorts
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 Wow, didn't know I spawned an epic flame war, kinda proud of myself. CFOxtrot, obviously my comment wasn't too unclear for everyone else, since they all got it, and the author of the article sent me a PM answering my question literally within 10 mins of me asking it, but to clarify: Rockshox doesn't portray the shock on this bike as being what you'd normally pick for an AM bike, they portray that you should pick the Monarch Plus or the Vivid Air for AM. since I've seen 2 bikes now (Titus El Guapo and this one, for reference) with this shock instead of one of the others, i was trying to gauge if this was spec'd because it's cheaper, or because it's enough for what the bike needs. Especially since they are clear at the end of the review that this bike is probably more for XC guys wanting to move to a bigger bike, than it is for DH guys looking for something pedal-able.

ridenz and frijolemoreno: got it in two, ya'll are UNCANNY.
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flag CFOxtrot (Jun 7, 2012 at 11:27) (Below Threshold)
 PMS! Hah! That's richer than Trump!

I better quit riding DH tracks on my XC bike. Clearly I can't be "AM" or "aggressive" on an XC bike. It's not allowed.
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I have a 2007 Giant Reign X with a fox float in the rear and (recently added) a Marzocchi 66 in the front. I have taken it off of a ten foot drop before, and it held up well. The longer wheelbase makes it slightly more difficult, but a longer bike helps with pedaling and it is still totally manageable on technical terrain.
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 Bought a 2011 Reign 0 this year (great price on brand new 2011 bike plus I like the component set and frame colour better in the 2011 series IMO) and the PB statement " for the XC/trail rider who wants a longer-travel bike to pump his technical game to the next level" is spot on and described exactly why I bought the bike. Previously had a Giant Trance X2 and needed a bike with a bit more bite when in the rocky/rooted ontario/quebec gnar and the Reign 0 didn't disappoint. Climbs extremely well and decends with confidence. Perfect bike for my domain! Highly recommended and would buy another without a second thought.
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 Awesome write up! On many of the bike reviews, I have been hoping for a brief paragraph about the differences from various tiers of the product. How does the Reign 1 stack up to the 0 or X0? Could you offer any more insight into whats gained by purchasing a higher level?
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 I think for the Reign 0, it has a Talas fork which is a beauty on the way up, changes the geo for a significantly easier climb, as well as a better shock, shifters, and brakes.
Reign XO is a bit more DH oriented, with a 160mm Fox 36(?) Talas fork, and 6.7 inches of travel in the back. Going with the review, the Reign would be for a trail/DH ratio of something like 60-40, while the XO would be more 40-60.
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 If you can afford it get the Reign 0. I got a Reign 2 and have spent my time ugrading to the equivalent of a 0. Found the stock wheels flexy and the handle bars too narrow. The bike would benefit hugely from a talas fork.
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 Ya, I have a 0 and I upgraded the bars, pedals, and chain rings, but otherwise, its perfect. LOVE the Talas!
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 Reign 1 with Stans tubeless, Bronson 2.3's, Race Face wide bars and XT brakes made a very good bike a great bike.
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 when testing the jekyll elixir 3 wasn't too weak, but here elixir 5 is??
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 This is a great buy and will be a awesome bike for some, no way its even in the same league as a Nomad or Enduro! Not sure why people are mentioning these other bikes? It is what it is!
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 I will agree that it is not in the same league as a Nomad. However, when it comes to the Enduro, having ridden both I will say that for me, the Reign embarrasses the Enduro in every way. The enduro is just too fidgety and unsettled both up and down.

Talking apples to apples, the Reign X and Nomad are comparable bikes and here again I would pick the giant. However I will admit that I am extremely partial to Parallel Link designs over VP, so my opinion is heavily biased (I also own a Reign XO). If I did more climbing than decending I would trade my Reign X0 for a Nomad faster than Sam Hill finishes a WC race.

As always, its about preference. The reign is a great bike, so are many other bikes. Ive owned 2 Santa Cruz's and 4 Giants. I prefer the giants. My riding buddies prefer the SC's.
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 The current Enduro stuffs the Nomad and the Reign for two reasons. Geometry and suspension rate. A Reign is a 6" XC bike. Useless.
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 jclnv, thats just a biased opinion as I HATE FSR and the Endos geo!
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 Your comments don't add up. You say it's "fidgety" when it has the longest wheelbase and slackest head angle of the three bikes you mention.
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 when comparing bikes that are in the same category (AM), beware the price, nomad, depending on the kit, could be a $8000 bike. this series is about $3000 bikes. in the world of biking, things may be over priced, but you pay for what you get. if your a cheapskate, dont expect your whip to perform like a carbon nomad.
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flag CFOxtrot (Jun 5, 2012 at 7:37) (Below Threshold)
 jclnv, you'll find a lot of people throwing around terms like "fidgety" in meaningless or contradictory fashion. It's all part of posing on the internet.

"Maybe if I sound like I know what I'm talking about, people will think the guy behind my e-handle is a badass!"
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 "... but landing the larger jumps and pushing it around high-G turns required a level of commitment from the rider."

I pity people who don't commit themselves to larger jumps or high-G turns. Nobody should rely on the bike to get them through such things.
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 I have a 2012 Reign 2, with the money I saved I brought some tallas forks Smile I think I'll convert to 1x10 soon, not having iscg is a pain though. I disagree completely with " Giant's Reign 1 is not enough bike to shred DH trails at the amplitude that many gravity riders attain" Maybe they should try a shorter stem, because this bike absolutely rocks the dh.
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 When I lived in NorCal I had two different Reigns and they were the perfect bike for that area. It is the perfect bike for trails where there is a long climb followed by a technical descent such as Mr Toad's Wild Ride (Saxon Creek Trail), Oat Hill Mine Trail. It was also perfect for technical areas where you have to earn your turns such as the Whistler Valley and Annadel State Park. I've taken it to parks and it went down everything but I wouldn't recommend it.

I think that for ANY money, you can't get a better AM bike, only a bike that is different. For the price, I doubt there is a better AM bike than a Reign. The Maestro platform is fantastic.
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 You missed an important 'type' of rider who'll find the Reign an excellent choice. It makes an great 'xc' whip for someone who's a downhiller at heart. Save the DH rig for the shuttle or chair and the Reign makes a very capable pedaller for someone who wants to hang it out there on the AM trails.
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 Wow. That CFO dude needs to get off his bike and into some poor girl's pants. Or maybe change the bike world one comment thread at a time.
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 I have a 2011 Reign 2 and did these mods: 170mm Lyrik RC2DH Soloair, DHX Air 5 with 2,25", 2012 XT trail brakes, shifters and rear and front derailleurs, 70mm stem, Mavic crossmax sx wheels with UST tyres, race face 36/24 cranks + 2x10 setup, Kind Shock 100mm seat post. Does somebody think this bike is not downhill capable? Smile
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 so i own this reign. Can someone give me a slight inside as to what it is?

i believe its the reign 2006?

or what is it?

edit: I just ordered a brand new set of 2012 X Fusion Vengeance HLR to go on it, lets see how it shreds then
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 The pierced downtube was big news for Giant across the line when the bike first came out, but a tussle with Specialized ( I believe, Giant was making a bunch of Specialized models at the time) over who owned the rights to the pierced DT forced Giant to redesign the downtube to what it is today.
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 so which reign is this?
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 Good thing they did, lightened the frames, removed pivot hardware, simplified everything. The new Giants dont pop the same way the old ones did but Ill take it for added reliability and decreased weight. It is a 2009 or earlier reign. Cant tell from your dark picture if it is an X, but I think not.
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 i think its the 2007, but cheers anyway! i have to say, reading the above the review quite a few of those points apply to my bike, but at the same time few of those negatives i haven't really noticed at all. I mean i can stand up and pedal my head off but i guess i am running a RP23 and fox van so that could be why. But the comments of it going through its travel too quickly are spot on
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 georgy291, if memory serves me correctly the first two digits after the 'G' on the BB number is the year it is made.

The model (0, 1, 2 etc) should be part of the graphic on the side of the frame. Since you have a frame it doesn't matter as the frames were all the same, only the shocks differ between models. The Reign 0 came with an RP23 if that helps, and went down from there. It is hard to tell in your photo as the source of light is behind the frame.
If your frame doesn't have a number on the side of it it was bought as 'frame only'.
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 looks either a 2006 or 2007. i wish you took better pictures where we can see the decals.
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thats the thing though, its got no decals else i would have looked it up from there
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 i have the 2007 and it looks very similar. i actually don't know the difference between the 2006 and 2007 other than the decals. sorry mate.
  • 1 0
 look at the shock position, the 2006 kinda has a open hole where the shock goes, the 2007 they closed it up with the sexy carbon. I guess its 2007 thanks everyone
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 Great bike for the money, i just tested last week as well, now i'm selling my Stumpy to buy Giant Reign 0 or 1Smile )
Please don't compare with $6000 bikes!!!
  • 2 0
 How about a review of one of the high end diamondback line? How's he mission pro? Is the sortie 29er a contender? Giant, specialized, trek and cannondale get enough press already.
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 Mission Pro incoming. Stay tuned.
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 Great review and a great bike. What I love about my (2007) Reign is that it's so versatile. It's light and efficient enough for serious climbs, while it is more than capable enough for some serious fun while going down the hill. Of course it is NOT a downhill bike, but just put in a 160mm fork with drop-down capabilities (2 Step Air or TALAS type of fork) and it will even shred harder on the descents. And in that case the alternative is the Reigns older brother Reign X.
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 "The Reign’s standard rear dropouts predate the popularity of through-axles (Giant says a through-axle and ISCG tabs are planned for 2013)." - this means i'll just have to wait for 2013 then. or get me this instead:
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 A warning on that Giant Switch seatpost - at the very bottom of the seat-tube you will see an aluminum plate with holes in it that threads into the main tube. This plate slowly undoes itself - shove a bit of locktite on the thread.
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 I have had every Reign since they were introduced, currently ride an X0 that has only a stock frame, is super light (27lbs -) full 6" travel and is the most amazing rig I have owned (since 1975) durable for our free ride/ all mountain lines, light for our XC style rides, Have hucked it off of stuff I shouldn't have and pedaled it up trails I don't like to have walk up. 5 stars....
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Founds this French website with pictures of some of the 2013 Giant's including the reign.

If you hold your cursor over the photo it brings up the name of the file which is the type of bike it is.
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 This bikes reminds me of the Yeti 575 and Trek's Remedy. Long travel XC bikes that one would argue it's way more trail oriented than AM like Giant's own Reign X, Nomads and several other bikes with 6+ travel.
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 I'm not sure if I'm reading your comment correctly but I can attest to the fact that the Reign frame is a great platform for AM riding. I started off with a stock standard 2008 Reign 2 and, while it climbed great for a 6" travel bike, it was (mainly) held back on the descents by a less than stellar fork.

I've since changed the fork and equipped a shorter stem (90mm -> 50mm) and wider handlebars (685mm -> 710mm) which has allowed me to descent as well as anyone I know with a Reign X or Nomad while maintaining the climbing advantage.
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 Pretending that "AM" is different riding than "XC" is absurd. It's marketing speak, not the voice of experience.

"All mountain" is an IMAGE, it's not a type of riding. It's the MTB equivalent of owning an SUV for driving on pavement.

One person's "XC" is another person's "AM" and one person's "AM" is another person's "FR" or "DH". They are meaningless categories used to sell more bikes.

Get to know yourself and what you like as a rider, and pick a bike accordingly -- regardless of how it's labelled.

Or, pick a bike based on the current fad in industry bro-speak, so that when you pull up to the trailhead and begin the day's posing adventure, you can imagine everyone being impressed by your ____________ (insert category) bike.
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 ^^ So true Razz
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 Okay, it's been a couple of days since I've logged into Pinkbike and yes I'm late to this but I'd still like to comment.

--->Pretending that "AM" is different riding than "XC" is absurd. It's marketing speak, not the voice of experience.

While I agree that the abilities (focusing on climbing and descending) of the bikes in these two categories are very similar I don't believe that it's just marketing speak. XC bikes have less suspension (sometimes being hard tails) and generally use lighter, less robust components. AM bikes have more suspension travel and generally use heavier, more robust components.

--->"All mountain" is an IMAGE, it's not a type of riding. It's the MTB equivalent of owning an SUV for driving on pavement.

Unfortunately I have to disagree completely. AM bikes are targeted at those who need/want (need in my case) one bike to satisfy all of their biking needs. Someone who wants to go for a XC ride but then also wants to ride DH or hit the bike park for the weekend. Yes, you could do it on an "XC" bike but it would not stand up to the abuse as well. You could also do it on a road/cyclocross bike but that'd be like taking a _____ (insert sports car manufacturer name here) on a 4x4 trail. Probably not the best idea.

--->Get to know yourself and what you like as a rider, and pick a bike accordingly -- regardless of how it's labeled.

I fully agree with this. I've figured out that I am an AM rider and I've picked accordingly (lucky for me as I bought the bike before I knew). If you mainly like to ride on the road then get a ROAD bike (or perhaps a cyclocross bike if you want to do a bit of trail riding too). If you like to mainly ride downhill then get a DH bike. Live close to a bike park? Maybe you should consider a FR bike. My point is this: the labels may not be important for a person such as yourself but, for the rest of us, these labels help us figure out what bike should be use for what type of riding.
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 I'm already aware of those category labels chuchillo. Everyone in the bro-speak "industry" keeps using them, as if they are the landscape, as if they actually describe reality.

Ask yourself why Rocky Mountain's new Element 29er is a "BC XC". Ask yourself why XC riding in some places is rocky, rutty, rooty and challenging, while in others it's a dirt sidewalk.

Go look at the comments after the Simmons/Vanderham "shred their XC bikes" video that was a front-pager here several weeks back. People say things like "that would be DH where I come from." Why? Why is that?

If I own 2 mtn bikes and one is a 29er HT set up closer to what upper-level XC racers use, and the other is a 26er FS set up for long alpine rides, am I prohibited from riding DH, FR or AM on the hardtail bike? Am I required to stay "in category"?

Why do people not understand this categorizing and labelling isn't useful for real purposes? It seems to have lots more utility in internet discussions where people can feel burlier or more "aggressive" or whatever because they "support" or own or occasionally ride what they call "all mountain." Is that because Francis Cebedo called the MTBR AM forum "more than XC, less than FR"? Is that silly phrase the whole landscape? Are we all required to follow Francis on that one?

Don't ask these questions. You'll just confuse people, who will think you're angry and "competitive" on the internet.


One man's XC is another man's DH and yet another man's FR and still another man's AM.
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 Some people say "AM", and some say "bro-speak", both irritate the crap out of me. I might say I become very "aggressive" when I hear these terms.
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 Best real am bike ever made then and now. I already had one, now working on get another. This is the first frame i ever considered buying twice, ya its that good. Dirt jumps, slope style, dh, xc and even blast past roadies. This is also my secret snow weapon. Everyone sliding out and walking while i flying thru snow jumps and uphills. The nomad a good bike but the geo not as aggressive or suited for tech jumping as the reign. My whole crew has reign or nomad. I would take a reign any day over nomad but they both good. Nomad better for taller riders but that huge whale hump top tube look stupid.
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 Shishka... Nomads of all versions in comparison to most AM bikes have short TTs to be more playful on downhills and on jumps. Nomad is a bike of a higher caliber like Reign X1, that feels more comfortable on big mountain than on trails, equipped with 170+ fork it can become a capable mini DH bike, what cannot be done to such extent with Reign. At the same time Nomad and Reign X are a bit of elephants in porcelain shop on XC trails - I tried, I've put light NNics on Nomad and it just doesn't work, you can't turn a bear into a mountain goat

The SC equivalents of Reign is Blur LT and Butcher
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 That's great that you like your bike Shishka and I hope you continue to enjoy doing so, however, I think your comparison of the Reign and Nomad are a bit off. 1) You state the geometry of the Nomad as "not as aggressive." This is simply wrong. The nomad has a slacker head tube angle (67), slacker seat tube angle (71.5) and is designed around a larger travel fork. Chainstays are marginally shorter on the Reign. 2) The "huge whale hump" is a couple nomads ago (though if we are talking "aggressive", that design is often argued to be more "aggressive" than the current.) I loved my Nomad and am beginning to love my new slash.
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 Giants are great bikes shiska but comparing apples to steaks is not a real comparison at all.
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 I had a 2010 reign XO which I believe it`s same as 2012...and now have a alu nomad 2....Nomad is way better that the xo and those could be on the same category I`d I just cant imagine it to compare the reign 1. withthe nomad..

I do feel the shorter TT..and wheel base but definitely works better for tech trails and jumps while I dont feel too much of a difference for pedaling
  • 1 0
 The geos on old and new Nomads are nearly the same, what you can notice a bit more (still no big difference) that older suspension was more downhillish. You feel more encouraged to smash the old one into rockgardens, really pound it into ground with feeling of limitless travel, rather than trying to stay on top of stuff. The new one though, especially in carbon version provides better and less wobly platform for pedalling. It accelerates better and
does not dive into mid travel. Feels more composed, though I haven't ridden new one with coil shock only with air.
  • 1 0
 I have a nomad 2.. 2010 I many alu models are after this one?
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flag CFOxtrot (Jun 5, 2012 at 7:35) (Below Threshold)
 poor WAKI...

"Nomads of all versions in comparison to most AM bikes have short TTs to be more playful on downhills and on jumps."

No, they have short TT for people with short torso and/or short arms. Being "playful" has to do with how the rider sees things, and not how long a top tube measures.

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Please do us all a treat and write a mail to Joe Graney of Santa Cruz Bikes and express your appreciation that Nomad along with shortish Blur LT and Heckler are designed specificaly for riders with short torso and short hands. Then promise to post here his answer. You may ask him if he has a short torso and long legs himself.

They forgot to add it on website hihi: Nomad the best bike on the market for people of unusual shape
  • 4 0
 Waki and foxtrot.... you two are perfect for eachother. keep it up.
  • 1 3
 Graney has more time on his hands since hbcut... went stale.

Session603, thanks for appreciating! Some folks are able to see I'm not angry and competing with anyone. I guess more people like vanilla humor. Sorry, I can't do Will Ferrell. Besides, he's not even funny.

I am serious about "playful" though. But even if I give WAKI some slack on the use of "playful" as he does it, a short TT isn't "playful" if you have a short torso and long spidermonkey arms. It's more like wearing a straitjacket.
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 I still hate you, too many too long comments: that was my part...
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 I love you both. This website would be significantly less hilarious without you.
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 I'll try to pack more punch into short comments, WAKI. You can keep writing novels.
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 The reign and nomad very capable on various terrain. My experience on a reign x was passing roadies non stop, xc riders not keeping up at all, and even the big bike riders sweat trying to catch up, and dj peeps scratching head . That bike a rocket, buy one and get ready to wait for people at the trails. Best snow bike ever.
  • 1 0
 Fk the bike then, give me your tips on strength and cardio training! even if you exaggerated stuff only 2x Big Grin
  • 1 0
 If anything i under exagerating, all that above could happen in one day. No time for flappin b.s. to people, if i tell you a bike is good you can bank on it. Not thinking too much about cardio is the secret to having a good one. And blaze some piff to open lungs then go unleash on people.
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 shishka - I've done it as well, I passed a rodie once on 2,5" tyres, I did hold on to one for a couple of km another time - I did wore out a guy on XC bike more than once, I also rode sketchy stuff on HT with 100mm fork that many riders in my town will not ride even on 6" bikes. But it doesn't matter. The point of having a 6" bike is to have fun an be able to fully comfortably do lots of different stuff with one bike, not to seek gratitude in beating wooses on specialized bikes - every slightly fit person would outride you on a road bike with not exceeding 120BPM heart rate and every average XCer would leave you behind on uphill if on proper XC bike.
  • 2 0
 WAKI and shishka - One time I took down a whole clan of ninjas that had throwing stars and everything..AND I did it from a wheelchair. I've also been known to grease up and wrestle crocodiles to death.....with one hand tied behind my back. But that's not what matters. The point is I have a huge internet dick too. I would leave you both in the dust on a climb if I had a helicopter. I love you guys.. never change. I'm off to "blaze some piff" and ride my Specialized bike.
  • 1 0
 You saw that ninja in the park!! Not too many people see him and live to tell about it. Thought he left town by now to go fight crime somewhere else. We going to let you pass on the specialized because they burn it down like giant.
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 Session - I meant specialized bikes not Specialized bikes... I like that you appreciate the size of my I-Johnson.

Ninjas on the lawn? I heard that Seargant General has put it on the official list of side effects of taking LSD. If you do it consciously God bless you, if you don't - check the ingredients label on your corn flakes
  • 1 0
 Hahahahah pinkbike would suck without you guys
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 670mm? why such a narrow handlebar?? Is anyone using less than 700 these days?
  • 2 4
 no, absolutely NOBODY is using anything shorter than 900mm. get with it and get a broomstick!
  • 1 0
 Just look at the 2013 Regin1 (I'm considering between Reign1 and a Stumpy Evo or Enduro Comp) and see how Giant have improved the model: 2x10, dropper, 15mm thru-axle front and rear, ISCG and the cable routing is not under the down tube.
  • 2 0
 I have a vanilla 160 and dhx coil on my reign 1 and it shreds as good as my buddies nomad , throw a fox 150 rl and rp 23 on a nomad and see how crappy it rides.
  • 2 0
 great bike for the price...the Nomad might be a better AM bike but for the price this bike is the one to buy...IMO.
  • 2 0
 i would just try and get hold of last years models, same frame and all but had fox suspension front and rear...
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 I like these bike reviews, keep them coming.
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 I'm just glad to see an XL which is actually bigger than the L.
  • 1 0
 I still shred my 2008 reign x1 and I love it. Upgraded rear shock w 550# spring van 36 w heavy spring, dh bars and stem, dh tyres. I love that bike.
  • 1 0
 Hi what would you choose? This Giant 1 or GT force 1 2011...
both bikes fits to me but Gt is better equip .... so im not sure which would you recommend more?
thx a lot ...
  • 1 0
 What were the other bikes tested in the "5-bike all mountain for under $3000 series".
  • 3 0
 Cannondale Jekyll, Santa Cruz Butcher, Norco Range, and Specialized Stumpjumper (I can't remember which model)
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  • 1 0
 I have the 2010 stumpjumper comp and I love it. But it's only got 130mm of travel which really throws it to the xc side but for me it does everything really well. I usually downhill with it and you just pump the shocks up a bit more for a more aggressive feel on jumps. You just have to have good line choice through rough sections. Also the new stumpys have 140 mm with I would still place on the more xc side so for a more am feel go with the EVO model that's slacker and has 150mm... Or an enduro. I rode one once and loved that too
  • 1 1
 Should have reviewed the Nickel instead of the Butcher. I feel like 150mm is way more bike than anything else you're reviewing. The Nickel has 130mm of travel and almost the same geometry as the Blur TRc and the older Blur 4X.
  • 1 0
 Put the 160mm fork, 2.25' stroke shock, 40mm stem and 760mm bars on and than it's ready to shred.
  • 2 0
 That's a Reign X...
  • 2 0
 its a shame all reigns are sold out from giant, im wanting one so bad
  • 2 0
 again more money than i can afford.... why did i pick and expensive hobby?
  • 1 0
 Zak Galafanakus is looking slimmed down.Didnt realize he had time to test bikes.
  • 1 0
 So if the Reign is for the XC rider looking for a longer travel AM bike, then who is the Trance X bike targeted at ?
  • 2 0
 I believe the term is 'trail riding', as opposed to 'all mountain'. Having owned Reigns and Trances, I'd agree.
  • 1 0
 I owns a trance x,but it seems that Reign would be a better choice for me, but in mainland China Reigns are hard to get.
Trail bike +1
  • 2 0
 the gaint reign 2012 1 is a great bike for every thing
  • 1 0
 We've got the 2011 version as a rental bike and with a 755mm bar it feels sweet as...
  • 1 0
 Completely mind blowing that giant can pull of a 28 lb bike with all slx... That's crazy!!
  • 1 0
 I had one but the lack of ISCG tabs and many dropped chains meant it left pretty quickly.
  • 1 0
 Red hat, red gloves, red beard, yeah I like it. La la la la..
  • 1 0
 and red bike. He wouldn't have it any other way
  • 1 0
 650b and I'd buy it now...
  • 1 0
 Votes for best bike for school #1 (from "Pinkbike's take" at the end)?
  • 1 0
 Lovin the red hair, red bike, red gloves + red helmet! red hot!
  • 1 0
 How would this Giant compare to a Scott Genius 30?
  • 1 0
 nice comprehensive review!
  • 1 0
 Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
  • 8 8
 The giant reign is the king of AM bikes.
  • 17 4
 Such heresy deserves stoning of genitals!
  • 6 0
 haha sorry waki. the nomad is a pretty serious competitor for the throne too. feel better?
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flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 4, 2012 at 6:33) (Below Threshold)
 screw Nomad I can think of many other bikes that are way more serious pretenders to be the king of AM. Great value but huh... the king? A duke maybe
  • 3 0
 A kick-ass Duke? Or maybe "the leader formerly known as King?"
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 Yea say it to Yeti SB-66, SC Blur LT, Specialized Enduro, Trek Remedy, Turner 5.5 and few more... All I would call Giant Reign would be a cunning Duke of Valueshire
  • 10 1
 Keep in mind when doing your comparisons that this is a $3000 bike, it's easy to compare it to a $5000 or $6000 bike but it's not a fair comparison.
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 I do like the "cunning duke of valueshire" . Store for future use one day Smile
  • 3 1
 I agree, but we talked of kings - While you can buy a BMW 6 and show some VW Golf that his place is on the second lane, then as soon as you come to your golf club - you won't just go bragging about your new car being the king of roads, knowing that a Ferrari or Porsche GT might park next to it anytime Wink

You might also find a white BMW M6 parked perpendicularly taking three parkings spots, with Ibis Mojo on top Big Grin
  • 6 0
 Let's get the name of this article changed to "Giant Reign 1 aka The Cunning Duke of Valueshire - Tested"
  • 1 0
 We need COD. That comment could be the first one
  • 2 0
 Definitely, COD! RC
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 I don't see this as being the king. The fork will always hold it back. 150mm should simply not have 32mm stants. The big ring needs to come off. The other components are sweet for a sub $3000 rig but the frame with no tabs diesn't hold up. I'd take the diamondback mission frame with tabs and thru axle over this. Of course I am partial to DB but I have seen too many broken giants to take a reign too seriously beyond the xc category.
  • 2 0
 Sweet bike, rode one for quite a few months on a long term demo, just wished it had ISCG tabs and a wider bar (750mm) as stock. The Giant Anthem comes with wider bars! If the revised reign rumours for 2013 are true I will definitely consider buying one.
  • 1 0
 Ryan Dunn is alive....!
  • 1 0
 3.4" tires? Woo hoo!
  • 2 0
 Good catch bikeboardorblade. You are the: Pinkbike Detective of the Day.
  • 1 3
 If anyone is interested in a 2011 Reign X1 for ~2900 please let me know! Southern California.
  • 1 3
 I'm waiting for the review of the Yeti ASR-5 or 575 Enduro kit only $2800 and blows all of these away.
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 Then why are you waiting for the review?
  • 1 2
 I have one, more people need to know.
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 GT Force or Sanction.......
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