TESTED
GIANT
REIGN 1
BY Richard Cunningham
Chris Powell smokes the chatter section at Ted Williams aboard the Giant. Powell claimed that, when pointed straight down the mountain, the bike could do no wrong.
Ian Hylands photoGiant’s Reign probably predates the term, ‘All-Mountain’ and when it was launched, it took a while for enthusiasts to understand why anyone would want a long-travel bike that was too heavy for cross-country and not quite muscular enough to qualify as a gravity sled. Today, however, the six-inch-travel Reign’s capable handling and technically-oriented geometry seems mainstream, and it has become popular among Super D and Enduro racers.
Our test bike is the $3000 Reign 1, which is surprisingly well appointed, with a dropper seatpost, a Shimano SLX drivetrain, and a RockShox Revelation RL Dual-Air fork and Monarch RT shock. Surprisingly, the mid-priced Reign 1’s shopping list doesn’t erode into the quality of its Maestro suspension frame. Giant produces its own tubes, from raw aluminum to the butted and shaped final product that Giant uses to construct the frame. ‘Vertical manufacturing’ allows Giant to throw the works into its more affordable models. The Reign 1 uses the same frame as the $4000 Reign 0, which helps keep the bike’s weight down to 28.95 pounds (13.16kg). The Reign 1 is offered in small, medium
(tested), large and X-large sizes, and in red, orange or black colors.
Construction NotesGiant’s factory takes great pride in its ability to hydroform aluminum tubing into wild shapes and there is not one straight tube in the Reign 1’s frame. The top and down tubes have sweeping bends and semi-rectangular profiles, and that theme is reflected in the rear suspension where the rectangular seat and chainstays are squeezed, looped and tapered to fit around 2.34-inch tires and to miss the spinning crank arms. The seat tube is bulged to brace the upper rocker link pivot and then bent to catch the Shimano direct-mount front derailleur.
Giant’s attention to detail goes beyond bend and bulges. The lower link of its Maestro suspension is offset to the left to provide a wider stance for the pivot bearings and thus, added stiffness in the rear. Nice-looking machined aluminum caps protect the pivot bearings on the linkage. Giant chose Shimano’s threadless, PressFit bottom bracket system, which provides for a wider shell and stiffer down tube. There are no chain-guide tabs on the bottom bracket shell. Cable routing is designed to be functional, with every hose and housing directed inside the front triangle where they are protected from brush-strikes and severe impacts, and guides for a dropper post are standard. The Reign’s standard rear dropouts predate the popularity of through-axles
(Giant says a through-axle and ISCG tabs are planned for 2013).Giant Reign 1 GeometryComponent CheckGiant’s Reign 1 featured the most complete component package of the five bikes in this series. The highlight is its Contact Switch R dropper seatpost – a must for anyone who wants to get the most from an all-mountain bike. The cockpit was filled out with Giant’s ‘Connect’ house-brand parts, with a 70mm stem 670mm x 19mm riser bar and lock-on grips. The 3 x 10 drivetrain was all Shimano SLX – which has been earning high marks worldwide. The wheels are laced up to DT Swiss E540 rims and roll on 2.35-inch Maxxis High Roller (R) and Minnion (F) tires. Stopping power was provided by Avid Elixir 5 disc brakes with a 180mm front and a 160mm rear rotor.
Suspension, as mentioned earlier, was top notch, with a 150-millimeter-stroke RockShox Revelation RL fork and Monarch RT shock that is outfitted with a high-volume air can. The fork’s dual-air function allows the user to fine tune the fork’s small-bump sensitivity by altering the pressure in its negative air spring. Up top, index detents in the ‘Motion Control’ compression/lockout dial allow on-trail tuning – riders can use the function to dial out brake dive on steep descents, or to soften up the fork to smooth out chatter bumps. The blue Motion Control function is moderated by the gold 'Flood Gate' dial which adjusts the blow-off threshold at full lockout and determines how much pedaling platform is available. The Monarch RT shock has a simpler floodgate dial to tune in more or less pedaling firmness the rear. The takeaway from the Reign 1’s suspension is that Giant chose a top-drawer fork and shock – both with multiple tuning options, which is a major plus for an experienced rider on a budget.
Giant Reign 1 Trail TestGiant’s Maestro suspension can be run wide open, without the use of platform damping aids, and it will pedal quite firmly and still manage to suck up a lot of punishment. The fact that both fork and shock have platform functions was icing on the cake for the few times we faced an excruciating climb or road section. Setting up the Giant was quite easy, as the suspension is not super-sensitive to sag or damping adjustments. Rolling out, the Reign 1 feels smooth and grounded, with efficient pedaling action and the bike’s long-ish wheelbase, sticky Maxxis tires and dropper post make short work of steep descents and drops. Stay within the Reign’s comfort zone and it rides like it has an autopilot.
Pedaling/Acceleration: Everyone agreed that the Reign 1 was a good pedaler and when it was up to speed, maintaining that momentum was relatively easy. Acceleration was not snappy, but the bike really got out of corners well, as it can get going equally well from a seated or standing position and the transition out of the saddle feels seamless. No test rider used the Motion Control option for trail riding or downhill because the Maestro suspension, although it remained active over the bumps, did not hinder pedaling enough to warrant sacrificing full-time suspension performance. That said; Giant’s tire choice and smooth suspension action made for a slower rolling bike on asphalt. Yes, platform for the road, please.
Climbing: At 28 pounds and some change, the Reign weighs in on the lightweight end of the all-mountain spectrum, so it feels pretty good on the climbs. Its triple crankset has low enough gearing to grunt up steeps as long as traction is available, and that means you won’t have many excuses to push, because the Maxxis High Roller rear tire can find traction almost anywhere. Technical climbs are facilitated by the active feeling Maestro suspension, which manages to roll effortlessly over bothersome steps and roots, so the rider can concentrate on laying down power instead of dancing around the bike, trying to out-smart dirt.
Technical Handling: The Reign 1 feels more like a super-capable XC machine and less capable as a downhill bike when pushed beyond a certain point. All hail the dropper post – which gave us the confidence to roll into sketchy sections, often unseen. When pointed in a straight line, it can speed down some truly hairy stuff, but its tail end gets a bit flexible when the bike is pressed hard through a tight banked corner, or when landing slightly crossed up. Some riders attributed the flex to the Reign’s lack of a through-axle. The wheels remained tight and true and we tested tire pressures up to 40psi, so their observations may be correct. Where the Giant put in a stellar show was at speed through chattery rocks. Corner after corner on the descent of the AM/trail loop, the stable chassis and smooth suspension kept the Reign glued and hooked up where other bikes were bouncing and sliding around.
Downhill: On the DH course, the Giant got the job done, but not without some effort on the rider’s part. The highlight of its descending was that, in banked or arcing turns, the Reign always felt like we could have entered with more speed. Rounding tight left-right-left type sections, the long feeling wheelbase required riders to over correct to get the bike around quickly. Most felt that the rear suspension pushed through its travel too quickly over the bigger bumps – which could have been solved with a couple of clicks on the Flood Gate dial at the expense of some small-bump harshness. The bottom line was that the Reign did not shy from anything large or small on the DH course, but landing the larger jumps and pushing it around high-G turns required a level of commitment from the rider.
Suspension Action: The Reign felt like it settled towards the rear of the chassis when it was pushed hard, which may have been a product of the shock’s slow feeling rebound. Speeding up the shock’s rebound made the bike feel less stable, so we left it. When pressed to its maximum, the Giant rode smoothly over most bumps and bounces on the DH course, with a tendency to bottom the rear suspension during G-outs and some of the bigger hits.
On trail, the Reign’s suspension felt balanced and capable. Its composure over mid-sized bumps and chatter gave the impression that the bike was moving slower, when it was actually one or two gears faster than bikes we assumed to be speedier in the same sections. The rear end settles slightly while climbing steeps, and although we knew that dialing in the shock’s floodgate platform would address the settling and cause the shock to ride higher, we rarely remembered to do it.
Component Report: The more we rode the Reign 1, the more we wished that every bike had a dropper seatpost. It allowed riders to erase the bike’s few limitations and enjoy riding almost any terrain. We all wished for wider handlebars – 670 millimeters was wide when the Reign was born, but something over 700mm would boost its handling and confidence at the DH side of its envelope. Oddly, Giant’s choice to use Avid Elixir 5 brakes, which are a couple of levels below other bikes in this series, was not an issue. Every rider liked the Giant’s performance under braking – partly due to the fact that the suspension kept the rear wheel on the ground while doing so – but the Reign’s stopping power never came into question. Extra love goes to Giant for spec’ing the two best tires to come from Maxxis – the Minion and High Roller. Oddly, Shimano’s SLX drivetrain is a PB favorite, but the 3 x 10’s overlapping gears did not play well in the more technical arena of an all-mountain bike. We get the fact that the Reign 1 must match the needs of a global market, but a low-geared 2 by 10 drivetrain would be a better match for the bike.
Pinkbike's Take:  | There are two schools of all-mountain: The gravity-oriented rider who is searching for a mid-travel bike that is capable of climbing to downhill trails which are out of reach of a shuttle, and the XC/trail rider who wants a longer-travel bike to pump his technical game to the next level. Giant's Reign 1 is not enough bike to shred DH trails at the amplitude that many gravity riders attain. The mid-priced Reign is, however, an excellent choice for anyone who identifies with school number two. The Reign 1 earned the praise of our downhill test riders for its climbing, acceleration and handling on trail, and it scored high marks from trail riders for its ease of handling on technical descents - which was the Reign's intended purpose from the get-go. - RC |
Five-Bike $3000 AM Tests:
1 - Cannondale Jekyll 4
2 - Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Comp
3 - Giant Reign 1
4 - Santa Cruz Butcher
5 - Norco Range 3
Shocks don't care whether the rider calls himself "aggressive" and don't care whether the frame they are on is described by "journalists" as "aggressive" and they don't care if the trail you're on is one people may call "aggressive." The word "aggressive" doesn't connote anything magical about what a rear shock can handle. At all.
groghunter's "question" reads like a facebook post bragging to friends, like "I"m about to buy a bike but I am AGGRESSIVE" as if to suggest he needs something special in order to handle his massive "aggression."
Or maybe he's just not that good at communication.
I'd rather see pinkbike's discussion threads have a bit more wisdom in them, and a lot less bro-speak of latest industry cliches.
I'm pretty sure the review contains enough info to decide whether the Reign can handle groghunter's "aggressive" riding. Mainly because "aggressive" is an empty term.
at the very least, your propositions deserve some examination
kjones -- okay, you "win" the e-rider contest by suggesting I'm not as good a rider as you, but I wonder how you'd fare in real life riding, and not hiding behind a keyboard. You consider yourself "aggressive," but what does that mean? That you break parts? That you crash hard? A good rider is easy on his bike and smooth on the trail even when hauling arse. You seem to think life is a Monster Energy image-fest. Go on, keep working on your e-rider profile!
ridenz -- what exactly is fast? what exactly is hard-hitting? compared to whom? compared to what? faster than you? big deal. harder hitting than me? big deal again. Is he actually a badly unfit 300 lbs person? Then he should go to his Giant Bikes dealer LBS and talk to them. What does he think RC can discern from a simple statement on the internet? It's like playing e-doctor with an internet "diagnosis" based on someone saying "my ankle hurts, what did I do?" Stupid, really.
Seems to me that you folks are using "aggressive" as a way to feel better about the status of "low skills, breaks parts, destroys bikes." In my world that spells HACK and not "aggressive."
I'm not competing with anyone in this thread and I'd ask you to stop projecting how YOU imagine I'm feeling or thinking. You're projecting inaccurately.
Go back to grog's first question, the one that prompted my first set of questions. How in Hades can describing one's self as "aggressive" --without any other information-- help someone recommend a bike? I know people whose pedaling power on climbs is impressive and looks "aggressive" to me. Do they need a burlier rear shock? What about someone who rides very actively but also is very smooth? If you asked the rider he'd say he feels "aggressive" but when you watch him ride he's smooth. Does he need a burlier shock?
There's no wisdom in this bro-speak crap of calling all sorts of things "aggressive". Dom, THAT is where the competition is! Men fluffing up their plumage to feel like powerful little birds in their mating displays.
"I'm an AGGRESSIVE rider! What should I get, RC?"
Nice plumage.
To answer grog's question, I'd ask "What makes you qualify with "aggressive" and what does that mean? Why are you focused on the rear shock handling "aggressive" riding? What are you looking for? What do you see in the Reign that makes you question its fitness for your intended riding?"
...but I can't figure out how your PMS fits into the picture...prolly doesn't work well w/ lycra shorts
ridenz and frijolemoreno: got it in two, ya'll are UNCANNY.
I better quit riding DH tracks on my XC bike. Clearly I can't be "AM" or "aggressive" on an XC bike. It's not allowed.
I have a 2007 Giant Reign X with a fox float in the rear and (recently added) a Marzocchi 66 in the front. I have taken it off of a ten foot drop before, and it held up well. The longer wheelbase makes it slightly more difficult, but a longer bike helps with pedaling and it is still totally manageable on technical terrain.
Reign XO is a bit more DH oriented, with a 160mm Fox 36(?) Talas fork, and 6.7 inches of travel in the back. Going with the review, the Reign would be for a trail/DH ratio of something like 60-40, while the XO would be more 40-60.
Talking apples to apples, the Reign X and Nomad are comparable bikes and here again I would pick the giant. However I will admit that I am extremely partial to Parallel Link designs over VP, so my opinion is heavily biased (I also own a Reign XO). If I did more climbing than decending I would trade my Reign X0 for a Nomad faster than Sam Hill finishes a WC race.
As always, its about preference. The reign is a great bike, so are many other bikes. Ive owned 2 Santa Cruz's and 4 Giants. I prefer the giants. My riding buddies prefer the SC's.
"Maybe if I sound like I know what I'm talking about, people will think the guy behind my e-handle is a badass!"
I pity people who don't commit themselves to larger jumps or high-G turns. Nobody should rely on the bike to get them through such things.
I think that for ANY money, you can't get a better AM bike, only a bike that is different. For the price, I doubt there is a better AM bike than a Reign. The Maestro platform is fantastic.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/7524388
i believe its the reign 2006?
or what is it?
edit: I just ordered a brand new set of 2012 X Fusion Vengeance HLR to go on it, lets see how it shreds then
RC
The model (0, 1, 2 etc) should be part of the graphic on the side of the frame. Since you have a frame it doesn't matter as the frames were all the same, only the shocks differ between models. The Reign 0 came with an RP23 if that helps, and went down from there. It is hard to tell in your photo as the source of light is behind the frame.
If your frame doesn't have a number on the side of it it was bought as 'frame only'.
thats the thing though, its got no decals else i would have looked it up from there
Please don't compare with $6000 bikes!!!
Founds this French website with pictures of some of the 2013 Giant's including the reign.
If you hold your cursor over the photo it brings up the name of the file which is the type of bike it is.
I've since changed the fork and equipped a shorter stem (90mm -> 50mm) and wider handlebars (685mm -> 710mm) which has allowed me to descent as well as anyone I know with a Reign X or Nomad while maintaining the climbing advantage.
"All mountain" is an IMAGE, it's not a type of riding. It's the MTB equivalent of owning an SUV for driving on pavement.
One person's "XC" is another person's "AM" and one person's "AM" is another person's "FR" or "DH". They are meaningless categories used to sell more bikes.
Get to know yourself and what you like as a rider, and pick a bike accordingly -- regardless of how it's labelled.
Or, pick a bike based on the current fad in industry bro-speak, so that when you pull up to the trailhead and begin the day's posing adventure, you can imagine everyone being impressed by your ____________ (insert category) bike.
--->Pretending that "AM" is different riding than "XC" is absurd. It's marketing speak, not the voice of experience.
While I agree that the abilities (focusing on climbing and descending) of the bikes in these two categories are very similar I don't believe that it's just marketing speak. XC bikes have less suspension (sometimes being hard tails) and generally use lighter, less robust components. AM bikes have more suspension travel and generally use heavier, more robust components.
--->"All mountain" is an IMAGE, it's not a type of riding. It's the MTB equivalent of owning an SUV for driving on pavement.
Unfortunately I have to disagree completely. AM bikes are targeted at those who need/want (need in my case) one bike to satisfy all of their biking needs. Someone who wants to go for a XC ride but then also wants to ride DH or hit the bike park for the weekend. Yes, you could do it on an "XC" bike but it would not stand up to the abuse as well. You could also do it on a road/cyclocross bike but that'd be like taking a _____ (insert sports car manufacturer name here) on a 4x4 trail. Probably not the best idea.
--->Get to know yourself and what you like as a rider, and pick a bike accordingly -- regardless of how it's labeled.
I fully agree with this. I've figured out that I am an AM rider and I've picked accordingly (lucky for me as I bought the bike before I knew). If you mainly like to ride on the road then get a ROAD bike (or perhaps a cyclocross bike if you want to do a bit of trail riding too). If you like to mainly ride downhill then get a DH bike. Live close to a bike park? Maybe you should consider a FR bike. My point is this: the labels may not be important for a person such as yourself but, for the rest of us, these labels help us figure out what bike should be use for what type of riding.
Ask yourself why Rocky Mountain's new Element 29er is a "BC XC". Ask yourself why XC riding in some places is rocky, rutty, rooty and challenging, while in others it's a dirt sidewalk.
Go look at the comments after the Simmons/Vanderham "shred their XC bikes" video that was a front-pager here several weeks back. People say things like "that would be DH where I come from." Why? Why is that?
If I own 2 mtn bikes and one is a 29er HT set up closer to what upper-level XC racers use, and the other is a 26er FS set up for long alpine rides, am I prohibited from riding DH, FR or AM on the hardtail bike? Am I required to stay "in category"?
Why do people not understand this categorizing and labelling isn't useful for real purposes? It seems to have lots more utility in internet discussions where people can feel burlier or more "aggressive" or whatever because they "support" or own or occasionally ride what they call "all mountain." Is that because Francis Cebedo called the MTBR AM forum "more than XC, less than FR"? Is that silly phrase the whole landscape? Are we all required to follow Francis on that one?
Don't ask these questions. You'll just confuse people, who will think you're angry and "competitive" on the internet.
/confused.
One man's XC is another man's DH and yet another man's FR and still another man's AM.
The SC equivalents of Reign is Blur LT and Butcher
I do feel the shorter TT..and wheel base but definitely works better for tech trails and jumps while I dont feel too much of a difference for pedaling
does not dive into mid travel. Feels more composed, though I haven't ridden new one with coil shock only with air.
"Nomads of all versions in comparison to most AM bikes have short TTs to be more playful on downhills and on jumps."
No, they have short TT for people with short torso and/or short arms. Being "playful" has to do with how the rider sees things, and not how long a top tube measures.
Sheesh.
Please do us all a treat and write a mail to Joe Graney of Santa Cruz Bikes and express your appreciation that Nomad along with shortish Blur LT and Heckler are designed specificaly for riders with short torso and short hands. Then promise to post here his answer. You may ask him if he has a short torso and long legs himself.
They forgot to add it on website hihi: Nomad the best bike on the market for people of unusual shape
Session603, thanks for appreciating! Some folks are able to see I'm not angry and competing with anyone. I guess more people like vanilla humor. Sorry, I can't do Will Ferrell. Besides, he's not even funny.
I am serious about "playful" though. But even if I give WAKI some slack on the use of "playful" as he does it, a short TT isn't "playful" if you have a short torso and long spidermonkey arms. It's more like wearing a straitjacket.
Ninjas on the lawn? I heard that Seargant General has put it on the official list of side effects of taking LSD. If you do it consciously God bless you, if you don't - check the ingredients label on your corn flakes
both bikes fits to me but Gt is better equip .... so im not sure which would you recommend more?
thx a lot ...
Trail bike +1
You might also find a white BMW M6 parked perpendicularly taking three parkings spots, with Ibis Mojo on top
RC