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Kona Entourage Review

Feb 20, 2012
by Brad Walton  

WORDS Brad Walton

Evolution, Not Revolution: Withstanding the test of time is Kona's strongpoint. How many other mountain bike manufacturers have stuck with the same proven suspension design for the past 15 years? What began in 1996 as Kona's Walking Beam 4-Bar Linkage system has undergone vast technical refinements since the design's inception, but the bikes have always had the same ol' look, until now. Love it or hate it, the new appearance is minor compared to the advanced ride characteristics found in Kona's 2012 gravity lineup. Kona has gone new school with a sleek, low-slung, gravity getter that is aimed at charging the steeps and annihilating the bike park. The Entourage isn't a long-travel adventurer. Heck, it hardly even fits into the freeride category. Kona has positioned the Entourage as a short-travel downhill bike aimed to do one thing well: have a good time.

Frame Details

Some call the round tube old fashioned, but Kona claims it to be less susceptible to damage from impacts than a lot of the fancy new super-thin and highly-shaped framesets available today. And with the reputation in durability that we've come to expect from Kona's Stinky and Stab series, it's no wonder their claim is supported by a limited lifetime warranty that Kona prides itself on. The S-bend down tube is the distinguishable feature for the Entourage and its bigger brother, the Operator. Rest assured it's purposeful though, adding structual rigidity while knocking grams off its predecessor.

Kona Entourage - Note frame specification guide detailed on seat tube for easy reference. Tons of rear tire clearance.
  Kudos for the subtle frame spec detail on the bottom of the seat tube. Oversized bearings throughout the frame with huge tire clearance - a Kona standard.

The Entourage frame includes the stout construction featured in Kona's flagship Operator DH bike. A tapered head tube increases weld surface area up front. Massive 40mm main pivot bearings ride on 17mm axles for added rear end stiffness, while 30mm secondary rocker pivot bearings aligned in double shear prevent side loading. A downhill-specific 83mm bottom bracket shell and 12x150mm rear hub keep things sturdy under foot. Although specced with more than capable 2.5 Maxxis tires, the Entourage has plenty of tire clearance for bigger rubber, or it can be considered exceptional spacing in the mud shedding department. A brilliant bonus feature to the Entourage is a frame spec guide on the lower seat tube, informing its owner of required component and bearing sizes throughout the frame (we'd love to see this on more bikes). When you're finally ready to replace bearings or upgrade components, research, phone calls, or buying the wrong part is a thing of the past - there's your information, in writing, on the frame.

Kona Entourage

Entourage Component Check

For a sub three thousand dollar bike, the base model Entourage is relatively stacked. This thing is so solid that it feels like a giant BMX bike whose black and chrome finish left us riding like outlaw biker trash. Seriously though, it just feels so... tough. Tipping the scales at 39.74 lbs with a slight crusting of northwest dirt, our large sized Entourage offered a sense of security scarcely found in bikes double its price.

Kona value-packed the Entourage based on the rigors of DH punishment. Avid's Code R brakes are high on the list for best DH-level brakeset, offering superb modulation and power in the grittiest of conditions. Maxxis 2.5 rubber mounted to MTX rims make for a bomber wheelset. A well-proven Fox Van R rear shock offers reliability and easy setup with its simple rebound-only adjustment. Up front is a RockShox Domain R with 170mm travel and 20mm thru-axle. Call it simple, but the suspension on the Entourage is a no-brainer for setup, as well as for maintenance.

Kona Entourage - in-house stem and bar
Kona Entourage Gap crankset and e-thirteen guide.
Kona Entourage - Code R brakes
  TOP: Kona's in-house 50mm stem and 780mm DH bar. MID: Gravity Gap cranks with e.thirteen guide. ABOVE: Avid's Code R max-power stoppers.

Shockingly Simple Spec: Kona's base-model Entourage features some pretty basic equipment in the shock-absorbing department. Without multiple complex bells and whistles like high and low speed compression, or boost valves with air pressure and volume adjustments, the Entourage's Fox Van R rear shock is primed from the factory to be at a happy medium for the average user. The same can be said for the RockShox Domain R fork, which is a good, rigid match for the Entourage frame. Bike manufacturers do a pretty good job of selecting the appropriate spring rate for the average person who will be riding a particular size of bike, so the Entourage will be ready to go right out of the box for most riders. Dial the rebound to where you don't bounce too much when riding off a curb, and you're set. This isn't a race bike, and it's not for techno-savvy geeks either. For those looking for the latest and greatest in gadgetry, look elsewhere - the Entourage is made for pure fun. This is the go-to steed for when the last thing you want to be thinking about is your bike. Grab bike, ride hard, hang it up wet, and it's ready for more. The simplicity of the bike is what made it such an enjoyable test bike for us.

Release Date 2012
Price $2799
Travel 170mm
Rear Shock Fox Van R
Fork Rock Shox Domain R CL 160mm w/20mm TA
Headset FSA Orbit 1.5B ZS
Cassette SRAM PG 950 11-32 9 spd
Crankarms FSA Moto FR
Chainguide E*13 FreeChucker
Bottom Bracket FSA
Pedals Kona Jackshit Primo
Chain SRAM PC-951
Rear Derailleur SRAM X-7
Shifter Pods SRAM X-5
Handlebar Kona DH
Stem Kona DH
Grips Kona G-LOG
Brakes Avid Code R
Hubs Formula
Spokes Sandvik Stainless 14g
Rim Sun MTX 33
Tires Maxxis Minion DHF 26x2.5 (front), Maxxis High Roller 26x2.5 (rear)
Seat WTB Devo Sport
Seatpost Kona DH

On Trail With The Entourage

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Low Slung High Roller: The Entourage is really set apart from its kin by its progressive geometry. It can really be summed up in one word: Low. The low center of gravity is felt immediately and lends an ease of use uncommon to bikes of less than strictly DH proportions. If you're accustomed to that 'in the bike feel', the Entourage offers a new definition to the term. Especially when combined with its relatively tall front end. The distance between rider foot and hand is the farthest apart on the Entourage of any bike tested. This lends to an especially comfortable Cadillac feel with hang-on-and-go intuition.

Newcomers will quickly welcome the Entourage's ability to effectively plow rough terrain with its back-seat geometry, but it comes at the price of pedal strikes during the adaptation phase. When lending out the bike for a test run, one rider was able to successfully remove all of the pins from one side of the pedal, and bend the other pedal's axle so badly that it would no longer turn. As stated, the lowness takes some getting used to. For this reason, the Entourage performs best airing out bike parks or on steep tracks where pedaling through rocky or rutted terrain is at a minimum.

Kevin riding the Kona Entourage at Blanchard Mtn
  Kevin Hall becomes a part of the Entourage on some off-piste rock scrambling.

Long And Stable: For having such short chainstays, the Entourage has a massive wheelbase. Some of this comes from the stability inducing 65° head angle, which rakes the front axle far out front. Some of it also comes from the fact that the large sized test bike is pretty long in the top tube area. We expected a more playful feel to the Entourage and felt it was slightly limited in maneuverability due to its very long front end which renders the bike a bit lazy. On the contrary, the bike definitely holds a line when pointed down a hill, which was largely Kona's goal with both the Entourage and Operator frames. Turning at snail speeds on technical features feels a bit floppy with the tall, raked front end, but once up to cruising pace the bike nearly stands on its own.

Kona Entourage self-portrait
  Entourage handles the steeps well thanks to its slack and low geo.

When it comes to cornering, really digging deep in the corners, the Entourage stays completely railed as long as you can keep the front end down by utilizing a counter intuitive aggressive riding position. The tall front end, while offering sublime comfort and confidence in nearly all aspects of intended use, is capable of washing out without enough forward weight over the bike. Dropping stem spacers helps some, but a lot of this characteristic is due to the backseat nature of the bike achieved with super short chainstays. What you really get out of the bike's defining characteristics - short stays, low BB, and slack front end - is a machine that is very stable at speed, in rough terrain, and on steeps.

Kona Entourage self-portrait

Airtime: This bike has pop, for certain, and with such a big, sturdy chassis it flies straight in the air and lands confidently without any harshness. However, it's not as quick to maneuver in the air as expected. Again, we felt this trait was due to the long and tall front end. While the bike's geo does provide a good body position for maintaining a straight line, it's almost too relaxed for taking control in the air. This is one person's opinion however, and it's quite obvious that Kona's Graham Agassiz, who the Entourage was designed around, has absolutely no problem throwing down some huge aerial maneuvers aboard the bike. We simply felt that the size large Entourage was just a bit larger than most other size large bikes in its category, pushing it more towards DH ripper than airtime sender.

  Entourage takes a whipping. Photo by Javi Vega.

Suspension Performance: The only riders who the Entourage's 170mm of balanced travel won't be enough for is full out DH racers. We felt the bike to be more than capable of descending most any trail confidently. Out of the box, sag was nearly perfect both front and rear for a 200lb rider. Rear suspension ramps up nicely and proved to be supple enough to handle rough downhill, even with the inexpensive Fox Van R shock. We never noted a harsh bottom out, and would even go so far as to say that the Van R is a perfect match to this frame. The Entourage remained stiff in the corners under any location in its travel.

The RockShox Domain fork is structurally very stiff and does a good job of smoothing out the big hits. It's not the smoothest fork in the world, nor is it the most supple, although it does feel very good when new and we expect that with regular service intervals the Domain could maintain good performance for quite a while.

2012 Kona Entourage. Matt Juhasz photo.

Pedalling And Brake Jack: Okay, so the defining characteristic of a freeride bike, its versatility, is a bit hampered with the interrupted seat tube design of the Entourage. Kona admits that the bike is intended as a mini-DH bike, not a supercharged all-mountain machine. Nicknamed "The Stairmaster" by our riding cohorts, the Entourage pedals incredibly well for such a big bike that requires a standing position to climb. Without gobs of rear travel, the rider isn't sinking to the ground with every pedal stroke, which is important since the low bottom bracket height gets the feet awfully close to the ground when pedalling. Combined with the tall handlebar height, Kona's backseat geometry with the long front end is very comfortable to climb while standing. Steep fire road climbs are no big deal for the Entourage. Longer trail climbs will leave you wanting some sit and spin time in the saddle, though.

Brake jack is a term often synonymous with non-Horst link suspension. As common of a complaint as brake jack is in 4-bar designs, it was virtually non-existant in the Entourage. It could probably be measured with a periscope or whatever you would use to completely nerd out about the subject of brake jack, but we simply didn't notice any type of brake induced feedback in the Entourage suspension.

Spec standouts: The in-house components worked flawlessly as well. A 780mm handlebar is a rare find on a stock bike these days and, after some getting used to the drastically shaped 10° back sweep, the bar worked well for holding stability in rough terrain. FSA's Gap cranks felt solid and the bottom bracket bearings spin freely despite weeks of muddy abuse. The drivetrain spec was well suited to the intended capabilities of the Entourage, with a 11-32 cassette on a 34-tooth ring. Our 9 speed drivetrain never skipped a beat thanks to e.thirteen's chain guide.

While it's a tricky balance between the 'price is right' and the right spec, the Entourage is pretty well thought out in terms of performance per dollar. It wasn't all sunshine and unicorns, though. Our Sram X5 shifter died randomly on the first ride, without a crash or bump. A bottom of the barrel shifter doesn't seem like the place for a bike meant to handle repeated abuse. And the Domain fork became progressively more progressive over time, leading us to believe there could be oil migration issues. And lastly, the handlebar is kinda funky with it's 10° of back sweep. A great deal often comes with compromise, and for seasoned veteran riders, the Entourage Deluxe model adds piece of mind over the long haul with upgrades in every department. From the entry level rider to the advanced intermediate, the base model Entourage we tested delivers a shred-ready package like few others for the money.

2012 Kona Entourage
  Who says you can't teach a new dog old tricks? Note the very relaxed, upright riding position of the Entourage.

Pinkbike's take:
The Entourage is definitively Kona: simple, sturdy, affordable. Its outlaw looks and rockstar performance pin the base model Entourage at the top of the list for beginner and intermediate riders looking for DH performance in a smaller, slightly more versatile package. This is perhaps the easiest to ride 'big bike' that we've ever thrown a leg over. Comfortable and relaxed like a walk in the park, but built trail tough for an awesome ride in the bike park. If a blindfold test was possible, this is the one bike that feels unique enough to differentiate from the herd. For gravity fed fun factor on a budget, the Kona Entourage takes the cake. - Brad Walton


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  • 85 4
 Man I loved the slow motion of the dog jumping at 1:56 can't wait till the summer to ride out with my doggy =D And the Kona is pretty nice tho. Nice article
  • 51 1
 The Entourage seems better in a straight line, but the dog had it beaten in the corners.
  • 26 13
 'the reputation in durability that we've come to expect from Kona's Stinky and Stab series, it's no wonder their claim is supported by a limited lifetime warranty' tehehehehehehe
  • 15 2
 haha i wasnt sure if the squeaking noises were coming from the brakes or the dog
  • 17 102
flag SamNesbit (Feb 20, 2012 at 19:03) (Below Threshold)
 Konas are gay
  • 36 3
 im guessing you have no friends?^
  • 4 19
flag pperini (Feb 21, 2012 at 8:25) (Below Threshold)
 nice bike..but no chain guide?..still a very nice bike..i like it
  • 10 1
 @pperini... look with your eyes open next time maybe? There IS a chainguide.
  • 3 1
 E thirteen to be precise.
  • 3 1
 well..i see a upper guide..but no lower roller...is that another system that i dont know maybe?
  • 1 0
 like the stealth black finish
  • 1 0
 It's the e13 ls1 but the lower section is missing.
  • 2 2
 With a good dérailleur you shouldn't need a bottom roller.
  • 31 5
 Hey guys, this is a rad write up on this bike. I was lucky enough to be one for the first guys to get one of these sick rigs and all i have to day about my bike is WOOOOO.

This bike go's so hard in the paint!!!

I have yet to find something that this thing cant do (except peddle) and to all you heaters out there that are guna say hey this bike is hella heavy its not mine is in the mid to upper 32s with coil suspension front and rear and no Ti spring.

check out mine all built up.........

  • 26 2
 One word on your build: WOW!
  • 5 2
 That is a sexy build, but it looks expensive. It seems like if it still doesn't pedal it isn't much of an improvement over buying an old stinky six and upgrading the kit. Does it really handle that much better than the previous ones?
  • 9 68
flag DIRTESANCHEZ433 (Feb 20, 2012 at 7:11) (Below Threshold)
 its a kona
  • 5 1
 yes it does handle better. I had an 09 stinky that I set up for DH and it weighed in right at 40lbs it was probably the best stinky ever once I got it set up. Then I made the mistake of selling that to get last year's operator. While that bike was good, I didn't have the love for it like I did the stinky. It was a bit long in the chainstay for me (fixed for 2012 though). But the weight was good at 39lbs and I think I could have gotten it lighter if I had wanted. But I got to do a few runs at the Kona Dealer Lauch party on the Entourage DL and it was amazing. That sucker had wicked pop and rode the dh quite well. I never really noticed the front being high like in the article, but I am also 6'4". Tires, stem and bars were totally underwhelming but easily switchable and I am a picky bastid. And I am not super stoked on the seat tube (like I was much the same with the operator), but i can live with it. Once I can get some $$$ together I will be building one up for sure. Its pretty much the perfect bike for me. And being able to build one up in the mid to low 30's is another bonus.
  • 15 12
 OOMMGGGZZZ LOLZ IT IZ A KONA SO IT WIL SNAP STRATE AWAY DEY R WACK. Boring, go hate something else because your mate told you he knows someone who was told on pinkbike that they're rubbish.
  • 2 1
 That bike of yours is beautiful. :')
  • 8 30
flag supr-ridr (Feb 20, 2012 at 16:05) (Below Threshold)
 @ eastofski I have seen the problems first hand that everyone talks about. From brakejack all the way to frames cracking and even snapping.
P.S. neg props, COME AT ME BRO! * takes shirt off
  • 2 0
 so how much were the batteries?
  • 3 1
 weight picture, somehow i dont believe the 32lbs. , damn nice bike though
  • 23 1
 I've been on my Entourage for a few months now and I absolutely love it. After owning several Stinkys and a Stab, this bike feels like the evolution of those bikes put together. The price is right too. Every time I ride it I'm impressed all over again, and unlike some of my past girlfriends it loves going down. An uppy-downy post makes it even better. Great article guys.
  • 5 0
 hahaaa that girlfriend comment was priceless duderr
  • 14 1
 the dog handles that track quite well wonder what sort of kit its running
  • 11 1
 Tioga Mud Dawg on the back and a Continental Caninus on the front. Chain device is a RooX Chain Dog. The dog is Old School.
  • 11 3
 Nice Review! I think this could be a perfect park bike, but I would prefer a frame only to build up. IMHO you could build a much nicer spec bike for not too much more money...
  • 12 7
 i fell like id be a lot sexier with golden stanchions
  • 6 0
 the thumbnail for the video made me think this puppy came fully loaded with a kickstand, then i realized it was a stick!
  • 11 1
 +1 for dog slow-mo... haha
  • 8 2
 ...measuring brake jack with a periscope...?...hahahahaha!....are you an octopus?.....
  • 2 0
 I think you might have confused 'octopus' with 'submarine'. Or maybe you know a very talented octopus... Kiddin' I thought the write-up was funny, too. ~
  • 7 1
 How come the dog didn't get a mention in the credits??????????

Star of the Vid!
  • 5 0
 It's Timmy!!! Its in the credits!
  • 1 0
 His assistant...I really want one now....hahaha
  • 5 0
  • 5 0
 Sick bike, Kona have really stepped it up with this and the Operator. Seeing Aggy pinning the hell out of both of them kinda helps as well! Smile
  • 3 0
 Looks like a great bike! I think its good to see reviews on bikes that pack in performance at a more reasonable price. My experience working in a bike shop is that many riders that would have liked to get into DH and FR simply didn't because they couldn't afford to. Bikes like the Entourage, Voltage FR, and the Specialized Status get me stoked because they provide a more affordable, but still reliable, option for those riders who can't afford $4000 or $6000 bikes.

And the dog in that video was amazing!
  • 3 1
 Exellent review - one of the best I've read in a while. Definitely got me excited about trying one out. Looks like a super fun and reliable steed. Kona seems to really be moving forward again. Brad, you're a regular renaissance man - bad-ass builder, bad-ass rider, bad-ass photographer, bad-ass writer. Soon you'll be working for BIKE too!
  • 3 1
 It can't be pure coincidence they've basically used the same font as the TV series, can it? t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR38kFoXNRK9lGiC7jpPeJ2pTx5HA8-wl2eqrSgI2b0NWshMZEvIg
  • 4 0
 Is it normal that when I click on the first pic, I get directed to a scott?
A new way for publicity?
  • 1 0
 same here lol
  • 3 1
 Awesome review, sounds like a very capable ride. I'd consider it for pike park shredding. Dual crowns just aren't as much fun. Awesome song choice!!! Restless feat. Josh Homme - UNKLE
  • 1 0
 unlike the thread says if you want something more racy or with more quality parts and adjustments dont find a diff bike just step it up to the deluxe version, in my opinion the deluxe looks better and has a wicked spec list thats sure to satisfy anyone
  • 1 0
 "like a giant BMX bike"
I like whole idea!

Kona cruses... I like how they continue to adapt to the environment....

Rock Shox Domain R CL 160mm w/20mm TA. I love the basic Rock Shox. It gets the job done..... Im interested!

I dont believe in the prices anymore.. I like Kona and understand they are trying to survive.... I will buy used...
  • 1 0
 First of all...that dog RULES!!!

Having ridden an Operator and the last couple of versions of the Stab (much more quiet and cornered insanely better), I can only imagine the Entourage blows the Stinky out of the water. Good they tested the base model - as mentioned earlier, we know how the high-end parts will make it work but how does the frame in it's most basic settings work?
  • 4 2
 Solid review. The Entourage is a great bike. I have a pal who rides one and they are the ultimate medium of DH and FR with a proper build.
  • 3 0
 that was one funny vid.. awesome dogg.. i dunno if mine could hold up for so long.. Blank Stare
  • 3 1
 Would be better with marz 66 in front (even basic rcv model) - they will be more durable than Domains imo.
Nonetheless it's a sick bike, looks pretty versatile Smile
  • 2 1
 I've never seen a problem with a domain in the durability department. Quite the opposite: all strength and no much performance. but if mine did fail I'd want to deal with rockshox before Marz. RS will replace it in a heartbeat and mars will give you the runaround and leave you sitting for a month of the season.
  • 4 1
 Even in a test above you can read that Domain's performance was getting worse over time (and it was just few weeks I guess). 66s with it's simple, open bath build doesn't need to be maintain for a long period and still performs well. And that's what I like to see in a freeride bike - you just grab it and go for a ride any day Smile
  • 1 1
 Makes sense, but what is the service life on the marz? Domains don't need much for maintenance. Oil change every 55hrs of riding is recommended. I know. I have ridden one for the last year. Also a lot of guys I ride with have had them for years with an annual oil change and biannual seal replacement they stay fresh, soaking up the big drops and jumps like nothing. The problem is they can't handle chatter, causing them to lose traction. That is probably what lead to the washouts he mentions.
  • 3 1
 yup- the Domain is an awesome fork (especially the higher spec 318 with Motion Control) and unbeatable value for money, its also the toughest fork in the RS lineup no doubt!

but even on the 318 fork, the damper gets "choked" at high speeds or on rougher terrain causing the fork to pack up and start punching the handlebars. the MoCo damper cannot flow as much oil / control the oil flow under heavy compressions as the Mission Control on Lyric or Totem.

I know this because I had to buy Domain 318 as a "standby fork" whilst going through months of warranty problems with totems and lyrics - both Lyric and Totem had the edge on performance, WHEN THEY WORKED!!!

the Domain was going strong with minimal maintenance whilst the Totems and Lyrics were going back and forth to SRAM for repeated warranty claims

I sold my Domain onto a french buddy who rode it in the Alps for 2 seasons with any servicing and eventually had a service in Season 3 when it started weeping oil
  • 1 3
 u kidding me? a marz will die after only a few weeks. Ive blown up two 2010 66s, my 2005 888, and my 1008 55 each one in less than a season of riding. My domain is as good as ever
  • 2 0
 Every rider has his own opinion Smile
I trust my old 2007 66rv. It didn't have easy life with me: all the harsh bottom-outs, crashes, hitting trees, belated oil changes... and it never let me down for over 2 years of hard abuse. So for me, it will be the ultimate freeride fork.
Yes, it also has sometimes similiar problems with "punching the handlebars" that hampsteadbandit was writing about, but come on - it's not an advanced dh fork that cost around 1/2 the price of Entourage...
  • 3 0
 hilarious with the dog following him, i have the same deal going down with my dog lol.
  • 1 0
 For a second I thought it was Rodie until I realized he wasn't under the guy's wheels.
  • 2 0
 the dog is sooooooo cute!! Big Grin
luv the vid!
...wait wasnt the article about a bike?... or something??
well, w/e the dog wuz ssssssoooooooo cute!! Big Grin
  • 2 0
 "How many other mountain bike manufacturers have stuck with the same proven suspension design for the past 15 years?" Specialized FSR, since 1994.
  • 2 2
 because that one works...and works well
  • 2 1
 So does the Kona design.
  • 1 1
 Awesome! I love how in the video as the music gets more intense, so does the riding! Oh and BTW it sounds like you shoved a hornets nest up that dogs ass.... It was running like hell and making all kinds a noises...

Does anyone know what camera they used or something similar? Im looking something that's got good slomo capability in HD but won't cost a billion dollars.
  • 2 0
 great blend of rad photos riding and edit. Brad, you are a trail crusher (and so is your hairy dog). Faved the vid no hesitation. That's what I call a product review.
  • 1 0
 There are many typers who didn't follow "Keep it civil!" disclaimer. drewfis has a pretty, bad bike. The by-product was a wildy entertaining and pretty informative breakdown and review of shimano and sram. well-held by all.
  • 2 1
 Give it three more years and everyone is going to be doing their own take on the TR250, hopefully in carbon. I like the way it's going. 6-7" travel, 65 degree head angle, long and low. Giant, are you listening?
  • 2 2
 Pinkbike needs to stop showing us information that we can already access. Lengthy paragraphs about the spec is just reproducing what is advertised on the website. Greater description about how the bike rides would be far more useful.
  • 2 3
 I had to watch the video about 3 times to finally concentrate on the bike itself Big Grin

Kona on the other hand... I really don't appreciate the frame design and the weakness it portrays. However, surprisingly the review lifted my hopes up a bit about Kona.
  • 3 0
 man, your dog need some oil change
  • 6 7
 I would like to see the Supreme Operator or the Entourage Deluxe tested. I find it frustrating when the low end model of a bike is tested and the testers tend to complain about the part specs. Its lower end, therefore the parts are not as good. That's why the price is cheaper. The same frame with higher end parts on it is going to be a better ride provided it is set up properly. I know that some people like that they don't have to worry about set up but others prefer to be able to fine tune the bike and therefore will only be interested in the higher end model. I think the article would have been more informative if they tested and reviewed both the base Entourage and the Entourage Deluxe in the same article separately and then compared them back to back and discussed the strengths and weaknesses of both. Then riders have a better idea of how to get the best of both worlds as far as performance, part spec and price. It would also help us get a better understanding as to which is the best to buy, the low end model, the high end model or buy the frame and custom build it.
  • 10 0
 I think lots of younger folks are looking at this bike and want to know how the low end one works out. Most bikes covered in high end parts are going to be pretty good. So it's god to see how the entry level one works in the real world for all the riders on a tight budget.
  • 6 0
 I think testing the base model is alot better than the top model; like lightingskull said "most bikes with high end parts are going to be pretty good". When testing a bike its more about seeing how the frames suspension design and geo performs than the parts. Many parts will work well in different disciplines (e.g sram xo cranks for DH & XC) but if the suspension design and geo doesn't work well for a riders type of riding all the best parts in the world arn't going to make as much of a difference as a another frame with the right design for it would. Plus I think most riders who plan on buying the higher end model or building their own already know what they want for parts and set up.

All in all what I'm saying is the points made on how well the frame suspension design and geo handle its intended purpose is more useful than the parts that come on it :p
  • 2 0
 I'm glad to see a review of the entry-level bike, since it's more affordable and more accessible. And a review should focus on the weaker components, so that you go in knowing what will likely need an upgrade. It's also good to get a review of basic frame handling and suspension platform performance, independent of components (as best as possible), since that will not be getting swapped out.
  • 3 0
 was anyone else just watching the dog...
  • 1 0
 is it just me or does the wheelbase on this thing look huuuuuuuuuuge! i haven't looked at the specs yet though so i could be wrong.
  • 2 0
 oh im blind theres the specs ha!
  • 2 0
 that dog can handle the steeps and insane slow-mo jump across those roots at 1:56, LOL!
  • 1 0
 cool review i have an entourage dlx frame that i built up with a totem and vivir air and sait its only 35 and theres was speced at 39 thats crazy
  • 2 1
 I see what you did there, you took the Stinky a few years back, and have changed the name a few times until people forgot the negative stigma attached with it, brilliant.
  • 3 1
 great bike but,poor name choice, as the name "Entourage" now really means douch***. thanks HBO
  • 1 0
 it always has
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  • 1 0
 Man loved the video, and the dog was ace too! I really liked the part where the dog got its slow motion shot! The trail looked awesome, and like it would be a lot of fun.
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 I Just think that this bike is a little expensive.. To campare: A Kona supreme Operator costs 2799 too.. Wich would you like moore he??
  • 2 1
 round here, the operator supreme is 2x the price of this entourage and then some...
  • 2 1
 I mean the Black and Gold one...
  • 2 1
 ah yeah okay. i've never ridden one properly set up for me, but i love my mates operator.
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 Seems like it would have to be cheaper since you can get a 2010 coilair that is better equipped for the same or cheaper. Bike companies for get they are competing with themselves.
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 Hehe the dog is so fluffy Smile
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 I'm not a kona hater. I see them as reliable bikes with an understated design. I know a racer that loves his old dawg and my brother rocked a stinky 6 and coiler for FR for years with no problems which is saying something since he's a clyde. Still, it doesn't peddle great and it weighs 6 tons stock. It is a sick little FR bike, but I don't see it as something really new or special. I will say that aside from the suspension (Domains have not high speed compression so washout isn't rare) this is a well outfitted bike. Might as well drop the same money on a 2010 coilair with topnotch kit.
  • 2 1
 First Kona I'd consider owning! Great geometry, PROPS for the 16.3 chainstays, thanks for posting the stack and reach!!
  • 2 0
 Was this a review or endorsement? :S
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 I have only one problem here - money
  • 1 0
 not much of a kona fan myself but this one... this one is nice like really nice 1st one i've liked at all
  • 2 0
 does the dog come with it?
  • 1 1
 Does everyone that has commented about this thread really like the look of this kona? I must just have very different taste because i dont like it at all.
  • 2 0
 yeee ! sick video and the dog was fucking pinned !!
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 i like the part where the dog chased him
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 the ultimate downhill dog!!! also a very nice bike but a little bit expensive for nowdays!
  • 2 1
 That's a sick dog, choosing its own lines and everything.
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 Hella uglee
  • 2 1
 The dog have more pro-lines. Big Grin
  • 2 1
 i think i like the dog better than the bike haha.....
  • 1 0
 the dog shreds just as gd as the rider did lol
  • 1 0
 FFFFF... spent the whole vid watching the dog
  • 2 1
 That Dog is rad! the bike too!
  • 1 0
 does the dog come with the bike?
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 Lol Lassie eat your heart out. Good vid! Fun looking trail too !
  • 2 1
 Props for the great review!
  • 1 0
 That is a fun looking trail! Anybody know where it is?
  • 1 0
 Such a sick bike but the dulux version looks soooo much nicer! Wink
  • 1 0
 Is the frame set available?
  • 1 0
 hey and yes the frame set is available, but only in the delux one its the raw and it comes with a fox dhx rc2 rear shox for 1700 depending on the shop . i recently bought the frame and i love it if you want top check out some picks of one i have a few on my page
  • 1 1
 great vid ,love the trail ,and the dog he knew all the shortcuts so funny
  • 2 1
 Top notch review. Keep up the good work Pinkbike.
  • 1 1
 i typically dont like kona but this is... lets just say... i REALLY WANT ONE!!!
  • 1 0
 omfg, i want a dog like that!
  • 1 0
 Awesome work once again Brad!
  • 1 0
 lol it's bike I dreamt about...
  • 1 0
 Ya, got to get me one of those.
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 Timmy Kicks @SS!! Good dog! The Entourage looks great too. lol
  • 2 1
 cute shelty
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 Looks like a fun bike!
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 bike definitely is cool, but... i like that dog more than that bike Wink
  • 2 2
 like the dog, not sure about the bike.
  • 1 0
 Lessi can shred? WOW
  • 1 1
 Gotta love Timmy :p And what a nice bike!
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 this is the second edit i have seen with a dog and i have to say they are class! something different! nice bike aswel
  • 2 2
 looks ligter than the stinky but it has a pretty similar look
  • 1 0
 Doggie got a workout in.
  • 1 1
 is it just me or are all bikes starting to look the same?
  • 1 1
 I really liked the geometry on the dog and the suspension was spot on.
  • 1 1
 love this bike but only in the raw build
  • 1 1
 I have the fluffy dog, now i just need the kona....
  • 1 1
 what's the size of the rotors ? 203 mm in front and 185 rear ?
  • 1 0
 That dogs a total pinn'r
  • 1 0
 dream bike
  • 1 0
 chubby kamikaze dog ftw
  • 1 1
 did i just see that dog scrub a jump at 2:01 in the video? EPIC!!!! O.o
  • 1 1
 defiantly paying more attention to the dog than the bike.
  • 1 1
 Look everywone wants that bike, also the dog want it Smile
  • 1 0
 i must have this
  • 1 1
 sick dog!!
  • 2 2
 kona is the best!
  • 1 2
 nice lil mermaid tat
  • 2 3
 this bike is sick!!
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