MRP Stage Fork and Raze 2CR Shock - Eurobike 2013

Aug 28, 2013
by Mike Levy  

A New Long Travel Option

The list of desirable long-travel single crown forks, those offering between 150 and 170mm of travel, is relatively short these days, with only a few options from the major players. MRP, yes the MRP of chain guide fame, is looking to throw their hat into that ring with their new Stage fork, shown here at Eurobike for the first time. While there is most certainly some White Brothers DNA involved, the Stage will carry MRP branding, and will be available in both 26''/650B and 29'' compatible options. The former can be had with either 150, 160, or 170mm of travel, and can also be lowered to 140mm by way of some internal tinkering, an option that would likely create a potent mid-travel fork for a trail bike. The 29'' compatible Stage will come in 130, 140, or 160mm flavours, as well as the internal option of lowering it to 120mm.

MRP Stage Details

• Intended use: all-mountain/enduro
• 26''/650B travel: 150, 160, or 170mm
• 29'' travel: 130, 140, or 160mm
• 34mm stanchion tubes
• Air sprung
• Compression, rebound, and ramp-up adjustments
• Tapered steerer
• 15mm 'QtapeR' thru-axle
• Weight: 1950g (26''/650B), 1995g (29'')

The air sprung Stage can be filled via a schrader valve located at the bottom of the left leg, and MRP has incorporated a nifty bleed button at the center of the left side top cap that allows for micro-adjustments without risking the chance that lubrication oil might contaminate the disk by letting air out at the bottom of the leg. We gave the small button a push to release a few PSI and it works as advertised, much in the same way that a bleed button on a
shock pump functions. Damper adjustments include a magnetically controlled threshold valve similar to what is used on their Loop forks, but it requires less force to activate the fork to allow for a more active feel, and rebound can be adjusted via a knob at the bottom of the right leg. A dial atop the same leg allows riders to tweak the fork's progressivity as well.

MRP Stage fork




The Raze 2CR Shock

You're not going crazy, the shock pictured to the right looks familiar for a good reason: MRP recently purchased the rights, technology, and remaining units and supplies of Elka's Stage 5, thereby giving MRP a full fledged shock right out of the gate. At this point the Raze features all of the same adjustments as on the Stage 5, with low-speed rebound, and both high and low-speed compression tuneable externally. Riders who already own the shock will likely be happy to hear that MRP has spare parts in-house, and they also plan to assemble and service every Raze shock in their Colorado facility, a decision that should make for more of a one-on-one relationship with the customer given that MRP isn't nearly the size of the major suspension brands.

Prototype Air Shock

This yet to be named prototype was also on display in MRP's Eurobike booth, although it is still in the very early stages of its development and has yet to see action on the trail. And while its appearance might be somewhat retro, it sounds like there is some internal trickery hidden within its unassuming body. According to MRP ''it compresses air against a seal on the housing rather than on the piston - resulting in reduced friction,'' and it also makes use of MRP's magnetic compression valving that is designed to keep the shock from being affected by pedalling or body motion but still allows it to function when needed. Much like the Stage fork, the shock also utilizes MRP's 'Ramp Control' system that lets riders to adjust its ending stroke feel.


MRP Hb1 bar

When Wide is Really Wide

MRP's brand new Hb1 handlebar measures in at a staggering 830mm width, although it can obviously be cut down to suit a rider who prefers a more commonly accepted bar size. Manufactured from unidirectional carbon fiber, it features a 35mm diameter clamping zone (MRP also offers a matching aluminum stem), and 25mm of rise. MRP also went with a proven and comfortable 9° backsweek and a 5° upsweep.


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102 Comments

  • 220 15
 1997 called, they want their prototype air shock back.
  • 6 6
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  • 81 4
 Give them a chance
  • 1 0
 cloud 9 is magura right?
  • 3 1
 Nah that's some og cane creek technology right there! Ahaha

You read my mind @scandiumrider
  • 1 15
flag aedubber (Aug 28, 2013 at 13:22) (Below Threshold)
 haha more like they want their shock , handlebars, and fork back ...
  • 18 9
 As soon as I read 15mm axle, I stopped reading
  • 2 0
 S'ok guys not long now and im sure RS or someone will launch a new DH fork and claim we need 35mm axles. whose taking bets on it being the new boxxer chassis ? Razz
  • 3 0
 someone remembers the 30mm hub from the curnutt f1 fork?
  • 17 4
 hey guys give mrp a break, atleast they make suspension that will fit any bike. cough* cough* FOX cough*
  • 1 0
 Wonder if this shock is that English dude's shock that suddenly "disappeared" almost as soon as it started whoopin ass in BDS?
  • 1 0
 ^^If you mean the Millyard bike, that was a different concept altogether. That particular shock was designed by an engineer who worked with british defense. The Millyard shock was a downscaled version of the suspension designed for the Challenger main battle tank.
  • 1 0
 That's the one...what happened to that great concept?
  • 2 17
flag scottchris (Aug 28, 2013 at 17:20) (Below Threshold)
 That had got to be the gayest shock I have ever seen.....EVER!
  • 3 0
 More surface area = better heat dissipation.
Bigger air volume = less heat generated? (haven't thought that one all the way through yet)
Bigger diameter = less flex (discounting overlap)
Bigger diameter = stronger with less weight (same reason aluminium tubes on bikes are fat)

If it looks stupid and it works, it's not stupid. I've always dreamed of a Risse Terminator.

The only downside I can think of is greater seal area and therefore stiction, but at 180psi with a 2:1 leverage ratio, who is going to have trouble getting this puppy moving? Just run thinner oil and service your shock more.
  • 61 4
 lets see how many pinkbikers complain about the tapered steerer and 15QR. i'm going to guess a shitload.
  • 30 0
 Add me to the list
  • 11 25
flag Raggi-Boy (Aug 28, 2013 at 10:59) (Below Threshold)
 There is a good reason why... 15mm is really dumb and annoying. Taper steerer wont work with peoples old frames.
  • 17 1
 so then companies shouldnt make them because they dont fit older bikes? new products fit the newest trends, thats how it will always be.
  • 16 0
 ^ seriously, welcome to reality people. new shit will always replace old shit when it comes to consumer products in any industry.
  • 51 0
 "15mm is really dumb and annoying."

You put forward a good case. And to think people think Pinkbike is just a site full of immature kids...
  • 3 6
 Dammit hermit, yes you can obviously prkgress, shit I love progress but not at the cost of your customers, if they don't fit older frame god knows how many people who has a maybe, 1 year old frame with straight steer won't be able to buy it
  • 3 2
 oh im with you jesp, i agree new products should always be made to be compatible with older models. thats how it should be, but its not. i was just saying this isnt a new phenomenon. the bike industry is always pumping out new standards, and moving past the old ones.
  • 2 1
 I don't care about 15QR as my Crossmax wheels have an adapter for it, but I still don't see the reason for tapered steerer. I know that the trend in MTB is to make everything bigger but we already had 1.5" steerers before the tapered ones so what's the point in introducing a third "standard"?
  • 3 1
 so that we spend more money.
  • 18 0
 Whatt, no 1" threaded? Dude it won't even work with my frame!
  • 2 1
 Around 1992 aluminum builders started a trend called 1 1/4 or superoversize headtubes.... Good it didn't work. The day bikes standards become one it's the day girlfriends and wives will say "yes you're right"
  • 3 0
 i miss the term gooseneck - sounds dirty. 'stem' is such boring nomenclature.
  • 9 0
 Am I reading comments from years ago? Really.... complaining about tapered steerers? *Most* bikes in the travel range of this fork either have tapered head tubes, or have had 1.5" head tubes for years now, both of which will accept tapered forks. From what I've seen 1.5" steerers have all but disappeared ...being replaced by tapered.
  • 9 0
 It's pinkbike - we'll find any reason to complain no matter how trivial or irrelevant. You should know this by now.
  • 3 1
 Raggi-boy Dude that's like wanting to buy a playstation 4 and using it with f*cking Nintendo 64 games....
That's why they make taper forks for newer "tapered frames" not old ones.
  • 15 0
 WWait a sec. You mean, N64 cartridges don't fit into the disc slot on a playstation? This changes EVERYTHING
  • 2 1
 So, you are saying me that if I bought a frame without a tapered headtube in the last year, read YEAR or 365 days, I hafe to suck it up?
  • 3 0
 Wow you really want this fork don't you
  • 2 0
 If it is a 1.5" head tube you are fine, just need the upper headset reducer, or proper assembly.
  • 1 0
 The plug of my OLD Iphone4 don't fit with my NEW Iphone5 ... So sad... Come on keep movin

isn't a part of evolution?
  • 2 2
 But the charger from my ancient android fits on my new s4, and I think you will agreemthat the new s4 is way more advanced than the old android from 3 years ago is better right? Anyway sorry to mess with the hive mind of pinkbike and having an opinion about the shit I want to buy
  • 1 2
 You're absolutly right! I have a totem 1.5 under my bed that will be unusable for the rest of my life...
  • 15 1
 Nice to see the Elka shocks back!
  • 3 0
 Kinda wish they kept the Elka name going though.
  • 1 0
 I'm interested to see what MRP has hiding up their sleeve. It's always cool to see another suspension product come out to try and test its worth!
  • 14 1
 am i the only one who thinks the air shock actually looks pretty cool?
  • 2 0
 You are not!
  • 8 1
 830mm... they will look hilarious going down the trail! ...but they'll be on every bike soon enough, and for the record the elka stage 5 coming back is awesome but damn that air shock is hideous (hopefully final product will look better)
  • 10 0
 830mm...lol Everytime I think we have reached the limit, we go wider.
  • 9 0
 its called the yard stick: (915mm)

superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=532

just 400g!!!!
  • 12 0
 MRP: "Yeah, you can cut it down, but we're still gonna charge you for the full 830mm of carbon."
  • 2 0
 'new Hb1 handlebar measures in at a staggering 830mm width' - c'mon, we had the 1000mm Syncros not that long ago Smile
Saying that, 830 is still way to wide for some riders or type of riding/bike.
  • 4 0
 Heh, but MRP is actually producing the 830, not like the Syncros prank...lol At this rate the Syncros will stop being a joke...
  • 3 2
 Who on earth uses these bars? You'd have to have arms like an orangutan.
I'm 6 ft tall and when I bought 780mm Thomson handlebar, first thing I did was cut it to 700 mm. Moreover I ride in a forest and in one part of the trail I have to pass through a gap between two trees which are about 80 cm from each other so with 780mm or wider handlebar I'd probably hit one of them.
  • 5 0
 Just for reference, bars on motocross bikes are 820mm and they're fine. Pretty sure mrp are aiming straight at the DH kids with those bars where niggly tree gaps aren't an issue....
  • 1 0
 I'm just under 5ft 9inches and got the Easton Havoc 800mm by 35mm. I love em so 830 is not that bad.
  • 5 0
 CUT TREES, NOT HANDLEBARS!
  • 8 0
 The 20 mm axles will be the new standard , as soon as we changed all to 15mm.
  • 14 1
 my vote goes to 17 mm. We still need a tweener axle after all
  • 1 0
 It'll come back sooner or later. That 160mm 29er fork will be taller than a Boxxer, single crown, 15mm dropouts, but as tall as a dual crown DH fork. That's going to be fun. . I'm expecting lightweight dual crown 29er forks to appear once these singles all start taking leave of their steerers like Travis 203 singles used to.
  • 3 0
 I guess MRP feels they need to diversify their offering to survive. But from my point of you, they need to bring innovation and not just stuff which is already on the market with more reknown brand names.
  • 9 1
 Who can spot the Rickyism?
  • 1 2
 "reknown" but Ricky does a lot more than just some misspelling... anyways that guy is french, they don't even speak english!

"This has got to be the best idea I ever had. I mean think about it, dope goes for way more awesomer prices in jail, supply and command."
  • 3 0
 The rickyism would actually be "from my point of you". And being from the province where TPB is filmed, I can appreciate it.
  • 2 0
 think we need to ref*ckulate that air can tbh. dont get me wrong if it works it works but it aint pretty Razz
  • 6 2
 Wtf is it with the damn 15mm axles?!?!?! Come on bike industry, why wont you listening to your customers$$$$ 20mm options AT LEAST!!!
  • 2 1
 Nice but WTH are manufactures trying to kill 20mm market screw this no 20mm ESP up to 170mm then not on my list this segment to hitting up and getting very competitive with stellar stuff from XFusion, Suntour for crikeys sake, DVO though they just failed this axle test imo and no inverted either 15mm for XC and roadies give us some meat between out legs and tires, listen to what we want not what you want us to buy! Dont want gimmicks want performance, 20mm or nothing or at lest optional lowers and who ever outsells the other wins, rant rant!
  • 1 0
 Most of you guys were not born yet, others were riding hardtails... But this air shock looks just like a FOX ALPS shock (the ancestor of the Fox air-vanilla R, ancestor of the Fox Float, ancestor of the 'newer' float platform). My little finger tells me they assemble them in a bin filled with oil, so they don't need to bleed them in the end (That's how Alps were serviced).

On another note, I really hope the sticker on the Raze will say 'designed in Canada'. I worked hard on that thing.
  • 3 0
 I like the look of the air shock, buuut... looks doesn't always mean I want to have it on my bike.
  • 4 0
 LOVE the feature of adjustable ramp up on the fork!
  • 4 0
 Where is the tab on that shock?…I am thirsty and I hope it is hoppy.
  • 2 0
 wait so whats the deal with two fork brands under the MRP group brand again...? why not just make it white brothers so as to not confuse the shit outta people?
  • 1 0
 I'd guess either the White Brothers brand is going away, or else they're going to use MRP for all the gravity/enduro stuff, and leave the White brand for XC.
  • 1 0
 I was wondering the same thing, I've loved my White Bros Fluid forks, and of course the DH 2.0 inverted fork!
  • 3 0
 The White Brothers brand name is being discontinued, all new suspension products will carry the MRP brand name.
  • 3 0
 The White Bros Q taper is awesome. I'm assuming it's the same system on the MRP.
  • 3 0
 Great news. More companies in the suspension game will definitelly benefit us, the riders.
  • 1 1
 Dont get why all these mt bike companies are pushing huge travel and large diameter axles. My dirt bike has a 20 mm axle and 8 inch travel but also has a 150+ rider ,156 pound chasis and way more air/flatlandings. They need to do more with less.
  • 3 0
 i was literally like WTF when i first saw the MRP on a FORK.
  • 1 0
 Is it possibly that white and mrp are now 1 company and that mrp doesn't seem as offensive as "white brothers" and mrp probably carries a better reputation
  • 3 1
 Does that mean Elka will not support my Stage 5 anymore?
  • 1 0
 well seeing how MRP now owns Elka, and has spare parts in house, maybe they'll do it insteat... you should ask them...
  • 5 0
 When did Elka stop the Stage 5? Have I been under a rock?
  • 1 0
 MRP does NOT own Elka. MRP bought the bicycle division only. MRP will be supporting the existing Elka customers. Elka will be supporting MRP.
  • 3 0
 that's right... they purchased the rights, technology, and remaining units and supplies of Elka's Stage 5, not the company itself... my mistake.
  • 1 0
 It seems Elka have already washed their hands of the stage 5 shock. I contacted them today about servicing a stage 5 and they gave me a email address for MRP saying they no longer deal with the shocks. I think Canadians that already own Elka shocks will be slightly screwed here if they have to send everything to the USA for servicing. MRP's website doesn't even have any information regarding servicing or anything either.
You would think there should be some type of transitional period at least? Where Elka would still do servicing of the shocks while MRP was up and running.
  • 1 0
 The way I understand it is that the only support that Elka is offering is to MRP. All customers are to be serviced by MRP. Agree about the border thing, but better a border than a dead division and no support. This way we have continuing development, sales and support.
  • 1 0
 Well that leaves me up s^it creek without a paddle. It is bad enough that we have difficulty finding reasonable deals in Canada (thin market i suppose). Now i need ro send my Elkas to the US? No thanks. Maybe someone in Canada will start tuning Elkas...
  • 2 0
 Is this the final, drawn out death of White Brothers suspension?
  • 3 0
 R.I.P. White Brothers
  • 1 0
 Bit of a shame if it is. Showing my age now, but years ago I had a White Brothers UD150 fork and, although it had a few issues, the damping was better than any fork I've had since.
  • 1 0
 Would be a pity to lose another historic name; I assume this is the production version of the WB fork that there were prototype photos of a while back?
  • 1 0
 I hope its the Elka technology is in the fork. Was pretty impressed with their dh fork cartridge.
  • 1 0
 lol, im stil riding a 630 mm bar for DH, maybe ill get a 690... lol at 830.
  • 2 0
 830 mm... Some lill fingers gonna bleed!
  • 3 2
 everything wider than 800 is Poser Bullshit !
  • 3 0
 Well I run 800 on my trail bike - I've had people comment on it before but when you have the arms of an orangutan like me, the wider the better! I just make sure no one is around when I OTB after ping them off of trees.......
  • 2 0
 760mm for life. Its on my DH, enduro and DJ bikes. Its just perfect for my style and size.
  • 1 0
 800mm= perfect
  • 1 0
 Cant fit anything over ~760 on out local trails. Too many tight spots.
  • 2 0
 Some good stuff
  • 1 0
 mmmmmmmmm flavours.... freshen your drink guv'nor?
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